abortion and men

[Medusa]

i have been looking through the posts in the abortion forum although i hardly participate in the threads .

i wonder what men would do if they were in the place of those women who have to abort their babies.

 

[wolfman24]

For me not alot I am pro choice.

What I wonder is why those who scream for abortions do nothing to help the victims of thier policies. The suicide victims family, the deformed abandoned child, the developmentally disabled abandoned child. Therapy for the women who had to go through this type of horror.

I think the two questions should be combined.

 

[Henrin]

i have been looking through the posts in the abortion forum although i hardly participate in the threads .

i wonder what men would do if they were in the place of those women who have to abort their babies.

Most of us are talking about convenience kills. I don't think anyone has to do convenience kills.

I think if I was a female and I was still the same person otherwise my position would still be the same.

 

[AGENT J]

Most of us are talking about convenience kills. i don't think anyone has to do convenience kills.

I think if I was a female and I was still the same person otherwise my position would still be the same.

based on nothing but your opinion of what convenience is, many people who have abortions simply disagree with you.

 

[AGENT J]

i have been looking through the posts in the abortion forum although i hardly participate in the threads .

i wonder what men would do if they were in the place of those women who have to abort their babies.

for me nothing changes
i would probably fight even harder to not have my rights taken away and to stop the government from taking action against me and forcing me to risk my life against my will.

 

[Henrin]

based on nothing but your opinion of what convenience is, many people who have abortions simply disagree with you.

And what were these ladies reasons for disagreeing with me?

 

[AGENT J]

And what were these ladies reasons for disagreeing with me?

simple they dont view it as convenience like you do, its absurd to even think you feel you could judge their reasons and claim them to be convenience based on your own opinion.

 

[Medusa]

For me not alot I am pro choice.

What I wonder is why those who scream for abortions do nothing to help the victims of thier policies. The suicide victims family, the deformed abandoned child, the developmentally disabled abandoned child. Therapy for the women who had to go through this type of horror.

I think the two questions should be combined.

personally , i believe that abortion is not an experience any woman wants to have .and i think abortion must be avoided as long as one has enough opportunities to provide the child with necessary living conditions.however it is still woman'S right to decide whether she will abort ot not..

unfortunately ,politicians like changing the subjects on the agenda to gain sympathy which will turn into votes later...

 

[Henrin]

simple they dont view it as convenience like you do, its absurd to even think you feel you could judge their reasons and claim them to be convenience based on your own opinion.

Do you have any examples or not?

 

[AGENT J]

Do you have any examples or not?

you provided a list one time i believe of the reasons women give for abortions you can start there lol

morals, responsibility, financial etc etc all are reasons that the woman may make and they can NOT be deemed convenience y you or anyone unless the woman says so LMAO

 

[Medusa]

Most of us are talking about convenience kills. I don't think anyone has to do convenience kills.

I think if I was a female and I was still the same person otherwise my position would still be the same.

what do you mean by convenience ?

 

[tessaesque]

Do you have any examples or not?

My decision to abort never had anything to do with convenience. It was not convenient to have it done. It didn't make my life any easier having done it. It wasn't based on the idea that my life might be more difficult without it. It was a personal decision made with careful consideration, and it came with consequences I was prepared to accept but not entirely aware of at the time. But that's like any major life decision. You never know exactly what the outcome will be over all, you just know it will effect you majorly.

I think pro-lifers assume that the only way a woman could possibly have an abortion is if they've completely trivialized the existence of the fetus, somehow relegating it to something as insignificant as a wart. That is simply untrue. Most women fully understand the weight of their decision. Sure, there are a few who don't, but they're a very small minority.

 

[JayDubya]

"Have to?"

Such as when?

 

[AGENT J]

what do you mean by convenience ?

any reason that isnt saving the mothers life is convenience to him, he can correct me if im wrong

and of course if im right, his stance is 100% opinion and nothing more

 

[Henrin]

you provided a list one time i believe of the reasons women give for abortions you can start there lol

I don't remember ever doing that.

morals, responsibility, financial etc etc all are reasons that the woman may make and they can NOT be deemed convenience y you or anyone unless the woman says so LMAO

Not really what I was looking for, but ok.

One of those is complete garbage and the other two are excuses and fit under what I said.

 

[AGENT J]

My decision to abort never had anything to do with convenience. It was not convenient to have it done. It didn't make my life any easier having done it. It wasn't based on the idea that my life might be more difficult without it. It was a personal decision made with careful consideration, and it came with consequences I was prepared to accept but not entirely aware of at the time. But that's like any major life decision. You never know exactly what the outcome will be over all, you just know it will effect you majorly.

I think pro-lifers assume that the only way a woman could possibly have an abortion is if they've completely trivialized the existence of the fetus, somehow relegating it to something as insignificant as a wart. That is simply untrue. Most women fully understand the weight of their decision. Sure, there are a few who don't, but they're a very small minority.

you mean you are not a slutty, irresponsible, sexed crazed, reckless woman, banging different dudes every other day, never practicing safe sex, who just decided to become a "murder" even lower than a rapist for simply convenience reason, to dodge you responsibilities because you are thoughtless and heartless?

IMPOSSIBLE!!

end sarcasm

 

[Medusa]

any reason that isnt saving the mothers life is convenience to him, he can correct me if im wrong

and of course if im right, his stance is 100% opinion and nothing more

it may save your life if you abort sometimes , in my opinion.......

in terms of living conditions...

 

[tessaesque]

you mean you are not a slutty, irresponsible, sexed crazed, reckless woman, banging different dudes every other day, never practicing safe sex, who just decided to become a "murder" even lower than a rapist for simply convenience reason, to dodge you responsibilities because you are thoughtless and heartless?

IMPOSSIBLE!!

end sarcasm

I know it's shocking!! I was in a committed relationship using two forms of protection (BC pill taken as directed and condoms), even though I'd been told by several OBGYNs that I'd never conceive naturally. I guess my boyfriend (same guy then as now...going on 5 years together) has super swimmers that defy the laws of medicine.

 

[AGENT J]

I don't remember ever doing that.



Not really what I was looking for, but ok.

One of those is complete garbage and the other two are excuses and fit under what I said.

1.) its possible it wasnt you but i thought you posted a link one time of all the reasons woman give for aborting and you claimed the majority to be convenience, i could be wrong. either way its not your choice.


2.) actually the FACT is none of them are garbage

another fact is NONE of them fit into convenience unless the woman having the abortion states so.

sorry you are wrong again, and its telling you think you have the ability to say they are convenience. Just furthers exposes how uneducated you are on this particular matter

 

[AGENT J]

I know it's shocking!! I was in a committed relationship using two forms of protection (BC pill taken as directed and condoms), even though I'd been told by several OBGYNs that I'd never conceive naturally. I guess my boyfriend (same guy then as now...going on 5 years together) has super swimmers that defy the laws of medicine.

LIAR LIAR LIAR!!!!!!!

only careless reckless sex crazed sluts have accidents

i know a girl who has a VERY similar story, she was on BC "the shot", he wore a condom, it ripped on the side and she got pregnant eventhough like you it was determined that she'd have trouble conceiving.

 

[Henrin]

1.) its possible it wasnt you but i thought you posted a link one time of all the reasons woman give for aborting and you claimed the majority to be convenience, i could be wrong. either way its not your choice.

Now I know it wasn't me.

2.) actually the FACT is none of them are garbage

One is garbage. Well on second thought, I shouldn't say completely garbage since its a two tier system, but it's invalid all the same.

another fact is NONE of them fit into convenience unless the woman having the abortion states so.

You wish to explore that some more before making that conclusion?

 

[tessaesque]

LIAR LIAR LIAR!!!!!!!

only careless reckless sex crazed sluts have accidents

i know a girl who has a VERY similar story, she was on BC "the shot", he wore a condom, it ripped on the side and she got pregnant eventhough like you it was determined that she'd have trouble conceiving.

The shot is evil incarnate. I fully believe whoever invented it seriously hates women. I saw it do some really crazy things to three women who took it, but none of them was preventing pregnancy. All but one of them got pregnant while on the shot, and the one who didn't was almost celibate.

 

[AGENT J]

1.)Now I know it wasn't me.



One is garbage. Well on second thought, I shouldn't say completely garbage since its a two tier system, but it's invalid all the same.



You wish to explore that some more before making that conclusion?
sorry you are wrong again, and its telling you think you have the ability to say they are convenience. Just furthers exposes how uneducated you are on this particular matter

[/QUOTE]

1.) my mistake then, i was wrong
2.) nothing more than your meaningless opinion
3.) nope dont have to explore that FACT, it is what it is a fact, nothing YOU say can change that unless the woman says it was for convenience.

its seems you and reality dont get along so well, like i said you are either dishonest or very uneducated about this particular matter.

"i" could deem ALL and EVERY reason that people abort to be convenience but that doesnt make it so it only makes it my meaningless opinion LOL

 

[Henrin]

1.) my mistake then, i was wrong
2.) nothing more than your meaningless opinion
3.) nope dont have to explore that FACT, it is what it is a fact, nothing YOU say can change that unless the woman says it was for convenience.

its seems you and reality dont get along so well, like i said you are either dishonest or very uneducated about this particular matter.

"i" could deem ALL and EVERY reason that people abort to be convenience but that doesnt make it so it only makes it my meaningless opinion LOL

So you aren't willing. Interesting how you post, but many times you don't actually engage.

 

[AGENT J]

So you aren't willing. Interesting how you post, but many times you don't actually engage.

willing to do what? LOL

what are you talking about and making up now