'A Year Ago I Was a Hero. Now I'm Treated Like Scum.'

[snakestretcher]

Why are you assuming she does not know how to take precautions to protect her patients?

Oh ffs! Because she wasn't vaccinated! Clinical precaution 101.

 

[redbeer]

Oh ffs! Because she wasn't vaccinated! Clinical precaution 101.

Lol, you just posted an article stating the vaccinated and unvaccinated, both transmit the Covid virus......it will prevent her from becoming more severe sick if she contacts the virus, but it will not prevent the spreading to others.....other precautions are necessary, which those in the nursing profession are aware. Get off the high horse, and permit this young woman to have this right, she deserves it, period.

 

[Paradoxical]

Show your data about where that's happening - 70% are vaccinated and make up the majority of patients.

Around here, we're roughly 70% of adults vaccinated, and most days the unvaccinated are about 80% or more of the hospitalized - i.e. four times the number of vaccinated.

Link?

 

[Paradoxical]

Oh ffs! Because she wasn't vaccinated! Clinical precaution 101.

Your evidence that children pass on Covid at high rates?

 

[Paradoxical]

Did read it. The first two paragraphs make my point.
But you are free to provide your issue.

I said that Big Pharm has no worries a you posted the below link....not me and said:
Sure they can...they can sue their doctor..they can sue the hospital..
And in fact you can in some cases sue the manufacturer..

Who Is Liable for Complications with COVID Vaccines or Therapies? | The Weycer Law Firm

Although minimal, if you have complications with the COVID-19 vaccine or therapies do you know who iss held liable? The Weycer Law Firm explains in detail, here.

weycerlawfirm.com

"Liability for COVID-related treatments or vaccines is complicated. There have long been extra liability protections for companies that make vaccines. The PREP Act declaration in 2020 signed by then Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar extended special liability protection to a variety of COVID-19 diagnostic and treatment options. There’s also 42 USC §300aa–23, which provides added protection for vaccine manufacturers if a person suffers a side effect from a vaccination.

Those liability protections aren’t absolute, and there are still scenarios in which a medical provider could be negligent for mistakes related to the administration of vaccines or COVID-19 treatments. The liability protections tend to shield the manufacturers of equipment, tests and medication – not necessarily the doctors or nurses who administer those treatments. If the doctor or nurse makes a mistake, their employer could still potentially be liable in a medical negligence case."

How in the world can someone sue a DOCTOR unless that doctor was so stupid as to stick the needle in someone's eye? The point is that if someone gets birth defects, dies, a heart attack, stroke, or ANYTHING immediately after or a month after the jab, he cannot sue. WHY would he sue the doctor? WHAT would he sue the doctor for? This isn't about you Jaeger. Stop trying to make posts about you personally or doctors. The only doctor that I care about is the idiot Fausti.

PS. I can think of 67no reason a DOCTOR could be sued for giving someone the vaccine. How could that happen? Under what wild scenario would a doctor be liable?

 

[Paradoxical]

Oh dear god! Nobody is suggesting that; what is clearly way above your pay grade is the simple fact that an un-verifiable submission cannot be trusted. Ever had a doctor suggest a second opinion might be in order? Why do you think that might be? Any idea why clinical trials are peer-reviewed prior to publication?

Yet CDC records can? Gotcha.

 

[Ouroboros]

No..just straightforward answers. From me.
But extinct..?
Small pox yes.
Measles no.
Polio...?? Maybe.

Okay, then it follows that if, say, polio has not been eradicated after generations of vaccination, there’s no good reason to assume that Covid will ever be gone either.
So your only justification for universal vax is that you’re convinced that fewer people will perish. You have not convinced me, but you have at least separated yourself from the Mad Lib dunderheads who rant about being able to cancel Covid.

 

[Ouroboros]

Lol...

I agree your repetitions are laughable.

 

[code1211]

When that same agency thinks disease control allows them to tell anyone who does business or communicates with them should use certain phrases to refer to criminals and that she needs to study why guns kill people, you know you have a political agency rather than one really involved ion controlling diseases.

People need to learn what logic is and this is no longer being taught in school. Instead, our schools now think that THEY should be political activists and spank white people cause....slavery and Jim Crow. We have a government run amok because Marxists have seized control. Biden is most certainly not the president. The simple logic is that if, say, just 5% of the people are vaccinated. common sense tells even low IQ Democrat posters that leaves 95% who aren't and it would be expected that 95% of those who go to the hospital are NOT vaccinated. DUH!

When that switches to, say, 70% of the populace being vaccinated we are seeing more vaccinated people going to the hospital. How can that be? Now that this is the case, the CDC wants to hide the ball.

The lies about Covid merely demonstrate the real problem which is the propagandists and the lies they issue.

We have arrived at and passed the point where they lie reflexively; even when the truth would work better.

These folks all have lives that occur off camera. Well, if they're lucky... Do they lie as often to their families and friends?

 

[Ouroboros]

Right..you are not going depend on scientific studies..
But your boundless faith that natural immunity is better.
Got it.

Still no answer to the vaccine efficacy question, so where’s the science there?

 

[code1211]

I disagree. If any part of the bible is in error, that calls into question the entire document. An entity that is "God" cannot make an error. IF the bible was/.is not supposed to be for all time but only for the day and time it was written, "God' could have said that. But, it is a good thing that people can see through the BS and take from the bible that which works for them. However, the same thing can be done with the Quran, The Shrimad Bhagavad Ghita, or any other text of ancient times. There is good to be found in almost any ancient documents, even the Communist Manifesto, but that doesn't mean any of those writings were inspired or written by any supreme deity.

Prove that God said what was interpreted for repetition by the listeners.

My point is that the "Inspired Word of God" seems to me to have been less than consistent and that it served the purposes of those who were relaying it.

As I said before, I feel that one of the reasons Jesus stopped by was to straighten out some misconceptions.

Again, I could be wrong.

 

[code1211]

you must be kidding.

one has no obligation to support common knowledge

Common knowledge told us that "Black" athletes were not smart enough to play Quarterback in the NFL.

Then... Doug Williams. Go figure.

 

[Paradoxical]

The lies about Covid merely demonstrate the real problem which is the propagandists and the lies they issue.

We have arrived at and passed the point where they lie reflexively; even when the truth would work better.

These folks all have lives that occur off camera. Well, if they're lucky... Do they lie as often to their families and friends?

Their continual lies are destroying the very fabric of society now. My Avatar is for many reasons. One of which is the red pill/blue pill symbol and the left hates this analogy. Some on the right do when I post that the blue pill was what Adam and Eve were given in the bible story. As long as they had no knowledge of the truth, they were happy and content. God was taking care of them, and like little children, they didn't have to deal with stress or worry. They didn't have to work, everything was free and easy and like the song, "Life was beautiful all around, LaLa"

The blue pill is what the Democrats give their sycophant believers by convincing them that all they need do is trust authority, ie. government, and they will be taken care of. This is what people think they want and what they think is good and compassionate. It alleviates them from responsibility, worry, work, and effort because the "government" is doing everything for them....healthcare for free, college for free, a wage if you work that would allow you to live comfortably no matter how hard you studied, housing, food; anything a human could ever need, provided for by the government. According to them, this is compassionate, fair, and equitable and how life can be. That is the fictional paradise that Adam and Eve "enjoyed" and all one needs do is substitute government for God. As long as humans stayed like children not knowing anything, that system works just fine.

It's when p[people wake up from their stupor and realize that in this real-world nothing is free and those "in authority" are bluffing, lying, and are incompetent and cannot stop them from getting sick and dying in all cases, and they are then given placebos and fakery and lies and sleight of hand like in the classic story "The Wizard of Oz". People don't want the real world of facts and logic and truth. Like a jilted lover, they want to be told lies that he/she really still does love them and that he/she will love and care for them forever and ever. THIS is what Covid is all about. Humans not wanting to face reality and facts and not wanting to get sick or die and so they MUST believe "in authority' because that's what humans have done since the bible story was written. They need to believe someone will make things all better because life is just too harsh and real. the blue pill is much easier to swallow and allows one their illusions.

 

[code1211]

It is amazing that so many still believe that masks work in spite of the evidence they do not.

I had a person reference "Common Knowledge" in a post to which I just responded.

"Common Knowledge" is usually common and, much more rarely, knowledge. Not often enough to leave it unexamined.

 

[Paradoxical]

Okay, then it follows that if, say, polio has not been eradicated after generations of vaccination, there’s no good reason to assume that Covid will ever be gone either.
So your only justification for universal vax is that you’re convinced that fewer people will perish. You have not convinced me, but you have at least separated yourself from the Mad Lib dunderheads who rant about being able to cancel Covid.

The fear mongers don't ever want there to not be fear. They must keep the populace in fear because fear sells and controls. How could the NIH and CDC stay relevant without fear? They cannot so they seize power that was never intended and order lockdowns and masks.

 

[Ouroboros]

Lol, you just posted an article stating the vaccinated and unvaccinated, both transmit the Covid virus......it will prevent her from becoming more severe sick if she contacts the virus, but it will not prevent the spreading to others.....other precautions are necessary, which those in the nursing profession are aware. Get off the high horse, and permit this young woman to have this right, she deserves it, period.

It’s strange to me that after a year in which we were constantly reminded in pre-vaccine days as to how asymptomatic victims could spread the disease, now in post vaccine days we’re supposed to believe that the vaccinated have reduced transmissibility because when they contract the virus, the vaccine makes their symptoms less pronounced.

While I’m not an anti vaxxer, only anti mandate, I think the pro vaxxers have over inflated the issue of transmissibility.

Let’s say it’s true that the majority of Covid patients are both first time virus victims (with no natural immunity) and unvaccinated. So they have the greatest transmissibility of anyone, right? That means vaccinated HCWs, who have the greatest possible resistance to the virus, can still pick up the virus and transmit it, even at a lesser rate, to other workers and patients. So— is that actually happening? Are there documented records of patients getting Covid in hospital, whether from HCWs or other patients? I’ll bet not; all hospitals have mastered the fine art of ass-covering. As I said before, it’s good publicity for hospital administrators to have universal vax. But for those who place faith in stats, we will never have accurate ones regarding hospital transmissibility, even though that’s a main argument for universal vax.

 

[Paradoxical]

I had a person reference "Common Knowledge" in a post to which I just responded.

"Common Knowledge" is usually common and, much more rarely, knowledge. Not often enough to leave it unexamined.

By "Common knowledge" that poster really meant that since a lot of people believe a thing" it is "common knowledge" and therefore true. The only thing common about it is that it is a common fallacy. All of Iran believes that Islam is true and that country has common knowledge that Mohammed was a prophet who communed with Allah. Therefore, Islam is true to the believers. Likewise, "masks work" is true to the mask believers.

When someone asks them for the evidence they are like a deer in the headlights and get angry like a Muslim would that someone would dare question their "facts" because it is right there in the Quran for all to see.

 

[code1211]

You'll need a cite for that, including when they 'said' that. I don't believe that's a number they've ever used for that purpose. Here's a study showing pre-Delta through July the number was 92%. Vaccination rates have gone way up since then, and Delta changed everything.

Here's current data on hospitalizations, by rate.

CDT Redirect Page

With so much information, disinformation and misinformation being issued by our government, it is very difficult to keep up with who said what and why and how.

Here is one source for the 97% figure. I could very likely be wrong that the Government spokesperson was rom the CDC:


<snip>
KELLY: And is it these two factors you were just talking about - unvaccinated people and the delta variant? These are the two factors driving this case increase right now.

AUBREY: Yes, absolutely. The delta variant is estimated to be up to 225% more transmissible than the original strain. So, you know, once it finds pockets of unprotected people, it can spread very quickly. Over just the last week, 10% of U.S. counties moved into what the CDC categorizes as high transmission risk. All of these counties have low vaccination rates. Now, there are breakthrough cases where fully vaccinated people are getting infected. But typically, Mary Louise, they're not ending up in the hospital. In fact, 97% of people who are hospitalized from COVID now are unvaccinated. Here's Dr. Walensky again.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)
<snip>

 

[code1211]

The links have been presented many times on these threads. If you're interested, you'd have read them, but you disregarded them to hang onto the Denmark study, which isn't relevant to anything about mask mandates. They call this tactic 'sea-lioning.'

As I said the Denmark study I'm sure has multiple threads and it's been discussed 1000 times on DP. If you think the objections to it are illegitimate, dredge up the threads and address them. You won't - you've ignored all that to repeat the same talking points.

I have presented a link that showed that mask mandates implemented in response to the rise of did absolutely NOTHING to "Flatten the Curve".

Did the links you reference SHOW that the mandate of masks flattened the curve when implemented?

 

[Paradoxical]

Prove that God said what was interpreted for repetition by the listeners.

My point is that the "Inspired Word of God" seems to me to have been less than consistent and that it served the purposes of those who were relaying it.

As I said before, I feel that one of the reasons Jesus stopped by was to straighten out some misconceptions.

Again, I could be wrong.

Jesus was a great teacher. He was always a Rabbi and tried to teach a kinder/gentler approach. Remember, before Jesus, there was no New Testament and his teachings were about the Old Testament. One cannot dismiss passages attributed to Jesus unless they agree to dismiss all of them but this is what people do when they try to dismiss or ignore the most important passage attributed to Jesus which is that the law will never be abolished until both heaven and earth pass away and here is a more precise comment:

In Luke 16:17 Jesus says, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one dot of the Law to become void." In Matthew 5:17-18, as part of His Sermon on the Mount, Jesus says, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished."

Nearly every apologist will say that Jesus fulfilled the law and never say how he did that. Dying on a cross fulfills the law how? I suppose one could do mental gymnastics and say it means that but this is just like saying "infrastructure' means child care for 3-year-olds. In other words, if someone calls a cow a snake, so it is. Humans claim the right to just make stuff up and if others adopt their tortured reasoning, it becomes a mainstream belief just like "masks work".

 

[Paradoxical]

It’s strange to me that after a year in which we were constantly reminded in pre-vaccine days as to how asymptomatic victims could spread the disease, now in post vaccine days we’re supposed to believe that the vaccinated have reduced transmissibility because when they contract the virus, the vaccine makes their symptoms less pronounced.

While I’m not an anti vaxxer, only anti mandate, I think the pro vaxxers have over inflated the issue of transmissibility.

Let’s say it’s true that the majority of Covid patients are both first time virus victims (with no natural immunity) and unvaccinated. So they have the greatest transmissibility of anyone, right? That means vaccinated HCWs, who have the greatest possible resistance to the virus, can still pick up the virus and transmit it, even at a lesser rate, to other workers and patients. So— is that actually happening? Are there documented records of patients getting Covid in hospital, whether from HCWs or other patients? I’ll bet not; all hospitals have mastered the fine art of ass-covering. As I said before, it’s good publicity for hospital administrators to have universal vax. But for those who place faith in stats, we will never have accurate ones regarding hospital transmissibility, even though that’s a main argument for universal vax.

Here we have millions of people vaccinated and masked up and the states with the most draconian vaccine and mask mandates are getting the sickest.

Something smells.

 

[Paradoxical]

With so much information, disinformation and misinformation being issued by our government, it is very difficult to keep up with who said what and why and how.

Here is one source for the 97% figure. I could very likely be wrong that the Government spokesperson was rom the CDC:


<snip>
KELLY: And is it these two factors you were just talking about - unvaccinated people and the delta variant? These are the two factors driving this case increase right now.

AUBREY: Yes, absolutely. The delta variant is estimated to be up to 225% more transmissible than the original strain. So, you know, once it finds pockets of unprotected people, it can spread very quickly. Over just the last week, 10% of U.S. counties moved into what the CDC categorizes as high transmission risk. All of these counties have low vaccination rates. Now, there are breakthrough cases where fully vaccinated people are getting infected. But typically, Mary Louise, they're not ending up in the hospital. In fact, 97% of people who are hospitalized from COVID now are unvaccinated. Here's Dr. Walensky again.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)
<snip>

Walensky is an Orwellian liar.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Not talking about the ability to become pregnant, but the health and well being of her children in the near future.....didn't you read the article?

The article say she doesn't have children.

Oh, wait.

Do you think this vaccine could mutate her unconceived children?

Do you understand how the vaccine works?

 

[Paradoxical]

The article say she doesn't have children.

Oh, wait.

Do you think this vaccine could mutate her unconceived children?

Do you understand how the vaccine works?

Is that a twenty-year-old picture of the dictator? One that CNN put out because they wanted to fool the public that he was an energetic cool older guy?

 

[code1211]

I tend to think that the later interpretations of a long lived creed always revise their predecessors. That said, what aspect of the Law of Moses does “he who is without sin” narrative contradict?

Simply that a woman of ill repute be stoned.