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A Stain on the Honor of the Navy


Thank you and your family for your service.
My dad also served in WWII in the Navy in the Pacific.
 
The Air Force and chartered civilian airlines. Don't you know anything?

WTH difference does that even make?

BTW, what unit did you serve in?


Quit this BS of accusing all men who served in the navy as being cowards. FFS its childish and an insult to ever sailor that died in every war. You are just throwing the entire navy under the bus to try to make your ignorant argument. Its not patriotic and I am sure that many real sailors would love to meet with you and discuss you implying that they are all cowards. Again I doubt that you did anything but the same as bone spurs.
 

As far away from you as possible.

It doesn't happen only in the Army either. Nor is it only you.

It's a tossup as to which is worse than the other, you or Trump. Yet there are veterans of each branch of the military who support both of you. The 100K deliberately provocative posts have a certain imprimatur.
 
The New Democratic Party's MSM partners have perfected the art of lacing the news with fake news cheese....

 
He didn't join the infantry, neither.

So what? Is no one's service of value to you unless they go infantry? That seems to be what you are implying with your insistence here.
 
So what? Is no one's service of value to you unless they go infantry? That seems to be what you are implying with your insistence here.

Low expectations. He's from very rural Louisiana.
 
Navy confirms request was made to ‘minimize the visibility’ of USS John S. McCain during Trump’s visit to Japan

You can bet this ugly incident will be discussed when Acting DoD Secretary Shanahan goes before the Senate for his confirmation hearing in the coming weeks.


First a tarp covered the John S. McCain name on the stern, and then a barge was moved to obscure the McCain name. When several sailors from the McCain — wearing uniforms that bore the ship’s name and insignia — turned up at the USS Wasp to hear Trumps speech, they were turned away. A pox on the houses of whichever Navy personnel either conceived of or caved into this purely vindictive request (possibly initially made by Trump Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney who also instructed former DHS Secretary Kirsten Nielsen to not ever even mention Russian 2016 election meddling in Trumps presence). Something rotten and odorous is stinking up US Navy actions in Yokosuka.

Related: Let’s Not Upset the President: The White House Tells the Navy to Hide the U.S.S. McCain
 
What part of this was Fake News?

It's been pointed out the President had nothing to do with this. Further, it's been proven the tarp wasn't placed to hide the name of the McCain.

This story is just another piece of cheese to attract the target audience.
 
True,however sen McCains has since been added, so now it is named after all three..

I didn't know that. But if so or even so, what this shows is that Trump carries his feuds way beyond reason. I suppose he always has. He's so thin skinned. I'll just leave it at that.
 
It's been pointed out the President had nothing to do with this.

If it had been Obama acting as Commander and Chief, he could not be blamed for a Navy developing a culture where some see this as an appropriate way to "please" the president? Somehow I think your bias is showing here.

Further, it's been proven the tarp wasn't placed to hide the name of the McCain.

Really? Proven? Funny how you didn't back that up with a link. Wonder why.

This story is just another piece of cheese to attract the target audience.

I see. So a White House official instructing the Navy to hide a ship named for one of the president's deceased political enemies is just "cheese". Yup. You clearly have no bias.
 
Do you actually have any evidence supporting your highly insulting claim? No Naval flag officer (senior, or junior officer either) agreed to any suggestion of hiding USS MCCCAIN’s name on her stern or moving her out of sight from Trump during his visit.

More importantly, had the commanding officer of MCCAIN been ordered to do so, that order would have been carried out. Not because the ship’s C.O. agreed, but because he/she would be bound by the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) and Navy regulations to comply.

If there was going to be a stain of dishonor, it would rest with those who gave the disgraceful order, not those required to carry it out.

* And as for the author of the opinion you included in your post, he/she obviously gets his/her distorted notions of military honor and duty from old, highly dramatized fictional movies.

It is a shame the ship was ever christened the John McCain. Sen. McCain was a complete disgrace and total scum that should have been thrown in prison in 1989 for his involvement with the Keating Five.
More ignorant blathering. USS JOHN S MCCAIN was named for the late Senator’s father and grandfather (both 4 star Admirals), who were legendary Naval leaders.

But, just to piss people like you off, the late Senator was added last year, during a rededication ceremony, as the ship’s third namesake.
 

Whataboutsims are pointless. So, that part of your argument is empty.

The Navy has reported the tarp was placed over the transom for one day and was removed the next morning when repairs were complete.

A White House official is not President Trump.

I think your bias is showing here.....
 
I sure do: anyone who chose a branch that pretty much guaranteed they would never be involved in a firefight, shouldn't criticize someone who chose not to enlist.
Truly one of your dumbest posts. And that’s saying a lot.
 
You claimed that the Navy was the "safer and easier" option.

In many cases this is flat out untrue.

As I pointed out.

Right, safer, easier. Not safe and easy. Nothing in the military is 100% safe.
 
So what? Is no one's service of value to you unless they go infantry? That seems to be what you are implying with your insistence here.

Everyone's service is important to me. However, I criticize service members when they try to use their service to put themselves above others.

A person who chose to enlist in the Navy during a time of war, presumedly to avoid being deployed to a hot zone, oughtn't try to present himself as being superior to someone who was 4F
 

What branch of arms were you in?
 

Stop lying. I never said that.

What unit did you serve in?
 
It's a fact, though. Ain't it?

No, it isn't.

Just a few MOS/jobs with high danger factors...

EOD. They can die years after that round was fired.

Combat Aircrew.

Combat SAR

Wild Weasel pilot and radar operators. Not avoiding SAMs. Taking them on.

Artillery. Counter fire is a bitch.

Tankers. Any container that is hard to get into is hard to get out of.

The supply chain. Anyone carrying your beans, bullets and bandages to the pointy end of the spear. Always a target.

Any HQ at the front.

That's just a few off the top of my head.
 

There are no artillery units in the Navy.

The Navy doesn't conduct LOGPAC's to forward units, neither.

However, that's not the point. Especially since I never said there weren't rates in the Navy that are dangerous.

The original point, which unsurprisingly got lost (ignored) like a mother****er, was that someone who chose a safer branch of service oughtn't be criticizing someone who didn't serve.
 
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