A simple question to those who disagree with Israel.

[cherokee]

How would you go about fighting the Hamas.

Please do not reply to any post in this thread. I want people to post their honest opinion of how they would handle the conflict.

 

[Degreez]

You wouldn't have to fight them.

Did anyone think maybe if Israel didn't pose an economic blockade on Gaza the moment Hamas won the majority of power, there wouldn't be as many problems as there are now? Maybe if Israel recognized Hamas' legitimacy of government, Hamas would recognize Israel's right to exist.

Maybe if you advocate peace, you'll achieve it.

Just maybe.

 

[cherokee]

You wouldn't have to fight them.

Did anyone think maybe if Israel didn't pose an economic blockade on Gaza the moment Hamas won the majority of power, there wouldn't be as many problems as there are now? Maybe if Israel recognized Hamas' legitimacy of government, Hamas would recognize Israel's right to exist.

Maybe if you advocate peace, you'll achieve it.

Just maybe.

Thank you for your opinion.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

You wouldn't have to fight them.

Did anyone think maybe if Israel didn't pose an economic blockade on Gaza the moment Hamas won the majority of power, there wouldn't be as many problems as there are now? Maybe if Israel recognized Hamas' legitimacy of government, Hamas would recognize Israel's right to exist.

Maybe if you advocate peace, you'll achieve it.

Just maybe.

:lol: to believe this speaks more to the delusions of the poster, than the answer to cherokee's question.

 

[Tucker Case]

I don't disagree with Israel, I just disagree with one thing they've done so far, and that was blowing up the school.

I've said that I think a ground force would have been appropriate in that case because the threat was indeed minimal, and the collateral damage outweighed the benefits of destroying the target in question.

Part of the Colateral damage was teh hammering that Israel has taken over this. The threat in that case was not worth the damage it has caused to Israel, or the loss of civilian life.

That being said, I don't fault Israel for going after Hamas, I just think more discretion is in order in certain circumstances.

 

[DarkWizard12]

I hope Israel Reclaims all land in the middleast from Turkey, to Sinai, and to Iraq, and then throw all the palestinians out....into the Ocean....GO ISRAEL!! :mrgreen: :lol:

 

[bigdaddy7118]

I am certainly no Israel supporter but what would everybody be saying if HAMAS and HEZBOLLAH bombers were blowing up 2-3 schools or hospitals every week?

 

[shiznit770]

How would you go about fighting the Hamas.

I would emigrate from the region.

 

[Gladiator]

Arrests are more effective than killing. Effective Rehab programs are available, but not being used.

Isrealis are more interested in getting inromation from prisoners, and getting prisoner to attack each other, rather than get people onto a prosperity track.

 

[cherokee]

Thanks to all for your opinions.
I would ask that that no one reply to someone else post. (Please)

I want to hear other ideas of how they would act if placed in Israel's shoes.

 

[bub]

How would you go about fighting the Hamas.

You should ask yourself "why do they support the Hamas". The answer is quite simple, it's because
- it fights against the country that blockades Palestine and is seen as responsible for the humanitarian crisis in Gaza and all the destructions
- contrary to the Fatah, it is not corrupted (or at least less corupted)
- it provides food, jobs and money to the people in Gaza

That means that there are 3 measures to take:

1) end the blockade and allow the Palestinian economy to be rebuilt. Stop trying to kill Hamas members, it is inefficient and it causes hatred against Israeli. Instead, respect the borders (destroy the illegal colonies and the checkpoints in West Bank, that will calm them down for a while)

2) give them an alternative to the Hamas or the Fatah: support the moderate Palestinians (76% of them agree with the 2 states solution => they're not all terrorists)
Maybe this guy could do this, I don't know: Salam Fayyad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
or perhaps this party Palestine Democratic Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
or this one Palestinian National Initiative - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

3) let them work and move from Gaza to the rest of Palestine, subsidy non-coranic schools, public transportation...do what the Islamist do to gain the heart of the Arabs in Egypt or Palestine, but without the Koran

 

[justone]

I would emigrate from the region.

I belive I read the majority of so called ""palestinians'' do not live in GAzA and west bank, but in Jordan? and other countries? Pour people look like a card some other arabs countries and islamofashists use in their game.

 

[justone]

2) give them an alternative to the Hamas or the Fatah: support the moderate Palestinians (76% of them agree with the 2 states solution => they're not all terrorists)

Welcome to Near East Consulting
Among young people ages 18 -25, those who have been most influenced by PA education, an overwhelming number - between 84% - 93% -- denied Israel's right to exist. This was higher than the overall figure of 75% who denied Israel's right to exist. It should be noted that PA teachings denying Israel's right to exist are endemic throughout PA society and media, including among Fatah leaders, which would account for the high levels of denial of Israel's legitimacy throughout PA society.

 

[bub]

Welcome to Near East Consulting
Among young people ages 18 -25, those who have been most influenced by PA education, an overwhelming number - between 84% - 93% -- denied Israel's right to exist. This was higher than the overall figure of 75% who denied Israel's right to exist. It should be noted that PA teachings denying Israel's right to exist are endemic throughout PA society and media, including among Fatah leaders, which would account for the high levels of denial of Israel's legitimacy throughout PA society.

Le sondage le plus détaillé sur l’opinion des Palestiniens, réalisé par l’Université du Maryland, a révélé que 72% veulent une solution à deux États sur les frontières de 1967, alors que moins de 20% veulent récupérer l’ensemble de la Palestine historique. Ce qui explique que, en partie pour réponse à cette attente, le Hamas ait offert à Israël une longue, longue trêve et une acceptation de facto des deux Etats, à la seule condition qu’Israël retourne dans ses frontières légales

The most detailed poll, realised by the Maryland University, showed that 72% want the 2-states solution with the borders of 1967, while less than 20% want the whole historical Palesine. That explains why the Hamas offered a long truce and the de-facto acceptation of the two states, at the only condition that Israel goes back to its legal borders

ContreInfo :: Les vraies raisons de la guerre ne sont pas celles données par Israël, par Johann Hari           

 

[shiznit770]

Welcome to Near East Consulting
Among young people ages 18 -25, those who have been most influenced by PA education, an overwhelming number - between 84% - 93% -- denied Israel's right to exist. This was higher than the overall figure of 75% who denied Israel's right to exist. It should be noted that PA teachings denying Israel's right to exist are endemic throughout PA society and media, including among Fatah leaders, which would account for the high levels of denial of Israel's legitimacy throughout PA society.

If you look more closely at their denial of Israel's right to exist it speaks to the beginning of the conflict. Palestinians will never recognize that Israeli's had the right to the land even before they started coming in droves 60 years ago. As bub's polls show, majority of Palestinians support a two-state solution despite the fact that they do not recognize Israel's right to it.

 

[justone]

As bub's polls show, majority of Palestinians support a two-state solution despite the fact that they do not recognize Israel's right to it.

Such a horse delirium cannot be taken seriously, even if it has a grain of truth.







Poll: Most Palestinians think Hamas should not recognize Israel


By DPA


Some 66 percent of Palestinians think Hamas should not recognize Israel, said a poll by the Ramallah-based Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PSR), which questioned more than 1,200 adults in the West Bank and Gaza between Thursday and Saturday.
Poll: Most Palestinians think Hamas should not recognize Israel - Haaretz - Israel News

Mada al-Carmel - Arab Center for Applied Social Research

Survey Research Unit
Among Palestinians, however, we observe some hardening in this regard. Before the war, in our June poll, 70% thought that a Hamas-led PA should negotiate with Israel and 26% believed it should not; after the war, 59% support such talks while 38% oppose them.

A majority of Palestinians (63%) agree that Palestinians should emulate Hizballah’s methods by launching rockets at Israeli cities, compared to 35% who disagree

This is consistent with Palestinian support (67%) for Hamas’ refusal to recognize the state of Israel in order to meet international donor demands

Survey Research Unit

A Palestinian poll conducted March 16-18, 2006, asked:
Do you expect Hamas to succeed or fail in managing the PA? Succeed - 70%, Fail - 22%
Should Hamas recognize the State of Israel? Yes - 36%, No - 61%
Can the PA do without Western assistance? Yes - 31%, No - 68%
Poll: Palestinians Support Hamas’ Refusal to Recognize Israel Smooth Stone

HOW IS ABOUT SOME COMMON SENSE ?

The fact is that the majority of Palestinians ‘’elect’’ HAMAS which does not recognize Israel’s right to exist.






HOW IS ABOUT SOME COMMON SENSE ?