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A question for my left wing friends....

Navy Pride

Navy Pride

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How many times while on the campaign trail did your hero Obama say "No tax cuts for the rich?" And you gullible people believed him....ROTFLMAO...:)
 
Navy Pride said:
How many times while on the campaign trail did your hero Obama say "No tax cuts for the rich?" And you gullible people believed him....ROTFLMAO...:)
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So him compromising with your party, has earned him ridicule.

You are so ****ing immature you know that.
 
Exactly.....Navy and the rest of his Republican party are the ones pushing these tax cuts for the wealthy....how soon they will run from them when the deficit balloons.
So much for "fiscal conservativism".....lol.
 
X Factor said:
My question is, why do Dems and libs so resent a tax cut for the "rich"? Jealousy?
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PS country is going to hell in a handbasket and doesnt matter if you are a CEO or a millionaire senator, you got it made. The other side of things arent lookin to hot.
 
Mostly I heard stuff about bi-partisanship. And evidence that he was smarter than his opponents. Much smarter.

And we resent the tax cuts because the wealthy don't need that much more money and there are plenty of people who do. That tax revenue could fund social programs, could fund schools, could be used to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, shelter the homeless, and cure the sick. All that stuff that Jesus wants us to do.
 
Z3n said:
PS country is going to hell in a handbasket and doesnt matter if you are a CEO or a millionaire senator, you got it made. The other side of things arent lookin to hot.
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Well I'm neither but I sure don't resent people who make more than me keeping more of their money. I more resent supporting folks unwilling to work because they won't take a job that's "beneath" them.
 
Paschendale said:
Mostly I heard stuff about bi-partisanship. And evidence that he was smarter than his opponents. Much smarter.

And we resent the tax cuts because the wealthy don't need that much more money and there are plenty of people who do. That tax revenue could fund social programs, could fund schools, could be used to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, shelter the homeless, and cure the sick. All that stuff that Jesus wants us to do.
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Well, for one, it's not your money so why should you get to spend it? Also, who are you to decide when someone has too much? It's funny you bring up Jesus. Does that mean you don't believe in separation of church and state? Are you ok with other Biblical principals being made into laws?
 
Navy Pride said:
How many times while on the campaign trail did your hero Obama say "No tax cuts for the rich?" And you gullible people believed him....ROTFLMAO...:)
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Let's see how smart and HONEST you are, NP. Do you remember the 1988 Presidential campaign? Remember Bush Sr. saying "read my lips... no new taxes". Did you, gullible that you are, believe him? And how did you feel when he broke this campaign promise?

Let's see if you are consistent, NP.

What you and the rest of the extreme conservatives don't get is that campaign promises are meaningless when situations change.

Here's another one for you, NP. Let's see if you are a hypocrite or not.

In the 1940 Presidential campaign, FDR promised to keep the US out of the war. When the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor... 69 years ago, yesterday, should he have said, "I refuse to go to war... I will not break my campaign promise"?

The idiocy and hypocrisy on the right around this entire issue is so glaring that a blind man could see it. Just goes to what I've always said. Right wing extremists (and all extremists for that matter) could not care one iota about the US. All they care about is winning.

You know that I like you, NP, but I doubt you will address my post, honestly.
 
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X Factor said:
Well I'm neither but I sure don't resent people who make more than me keeping more of their money. I more resent supporting folks unwilling to work because they won't take a job that's "beneath" them.
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Another talking point fallacy of the right. Tell you what, though. I challenge you to prove your point. Post research that shows what percentage of folks are on unemployment because they are "refusing" to work. Make sure your research indicates the concept of refusal CLEARLY.

If you cannot, then, obviously, your comments above are meaningless.
 
Paschendale said:
Mostly I heard stuff about bi-partisanship. And evidence that he was smarter than his opponents. Much smarter.

And we resent the tax cuts because the wealthy don't need that much more money and there are plenty of people who do. That tax revenue could fund social programs, could fund schools, could be used to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, shelter the homeless, and cure the sick. All that stuff that Jesus wants us to do.
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Why is it the government's right and responsibility to take money earned by the rich, from their own work, and fund these sorts of programs? It is not the responsibility of government to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, shelter the homeless and cure the sick. Jesus would want the community to solve those problems, not the government.

By spending more and more money, the only solution seems to be to raise taxes on the rich. The real solution is to cut spending.
 
reefedjib said:
Why is it the government's right and responsibility to take money earned by the rich, from their own work, and fund these sorts of programs? It is not the responsibility of government to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, shelter the homeless and cure the sick. Jesus would want the community to solve those problems, not the government.
By spending more and more money, the only solution seems to be to raise taxes on the rich. The real solution is to cut spending.
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I'm not sure where it says that in the Bible, but I am sure where he babbles on about giving everything you have to the poor, and the goodness of feeding the poor, clothing the naked, etc.

Of course, taxing the rich actually is the community solving its problems, but let's just ignore that entirely.
 
X Factor said:
My question is, why do Dems and libs so resent a tax cut for the "rich"? Jealousy?
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Why do people tend to assume jealousy? stupidity?
 
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Patria Antiqua said:
I'm not sure where it says that in the Bible, but I am sure where he babbles on about giving everything you have to the poor, and the goodness of feeding the poor, clothing the naked, etc.

Of course, taxing the rich actually is the community solving its problems, but let's just ignore that entirely.
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Jesus was consistently against the excesses and waste and corruption of government. He called it Gammon.
 
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reefedjib said:
Jesus was consistently against the excesses and waste and corruption of government. He called it Gammon.
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You're falsley equivocating between waste and excess, and giving to the poor. Waste and corruption is his day was quite a bit different from what conservatives consider waste and corruption now.

I can't believe that this debate seriously hinges around the the rantings of a fictional character.
 
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"Mammon" would seem to fit the bill, except that it represents material wealth and greed, neither of which are commended in Christ's message.
 
Manc Skipper said:
"Mammon" would seem to fit the bill, except that it represents material wealth and greed, neither of which are commended in Christ's message.
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Ok Mammon makes sense. However, that terms mainly applies to the affections of people who love money more than God. I don't recall it referencing government.
 
Manc Skipper said:
"Mammon" would seem to fit the bill, except that it represents material wealth and greed, neither of which are commended in Christ's message.
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Ack, yes Mammon. Got that wrong - no expert on these matters here. Thanks.
 
It would be really cool if Jesus talking about gannon. It would give zelda games more signficance :mrgreen:
 
megaprogman said:
Ok Mammon makes sense. However, that terms mainly applies to the affections of people who love money more than God. I don't recall it referencing government.
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Government is an institution made up of people who love money for the express purpose of attaining more. It is institutionalized Mammon.
 
reefedjib said:
Government is an institution made up of people who love money for the express purpose of attaining more. It is institutionalized Mammon.
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That is an interesting theory of government. Certainly one I have never encountered or thought of before.
 
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megaprogman said:
That is an interesting theory of government. Certainly one I have never encountered or thought of before.
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Politicians are all greedy, corrupt people who seek influence and power. Surely you have thought of that or come across that evaluation before.
 
reefedjib said:
Politicians are all greedy, corrupt people who seek influence and power. Surely you have thought of that or come across that evaluation before.
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I certainly think that there are greedy corrupt politicians, but I do not hold the conclusion that they are all that way.
 
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