A psychologist explains why trump is fast and furious, not thoughtful or deliberate.

[BabaVoss]

It appears that Trump makes decisions very quickly (classic system one), often without extensive deliberation or consultation with advisers. Both in his presidency and in his business career, he seemed to prioritise immediate action over any sort of prolonged and thoughtful analysis. That’s why he changes his mind so often.

Trump’s f-bomb: a psychologist explains why the president makes fast and furious statements

Donald Trump appears to react quickly and emotionallly to foreign policy decisions, a psychologist explains why that could be.

theconversation.com

Very interesting article. I'm going to parse out some it here, but its well worth a read...

"The Nobel laureate and psychologist Daniel Kahneman, in his book Thinking Fast and Slow (2011), characterised the two systems that underpin everyday decision-making. His work may help with understanding of what’s going on here."

"He describes system one as the evolutionary, basic system. It operates unconsciously, automatically and very quickly, handling everyday tasks like reading other people’s emotions, without any effort. It is an intuitive system designed to work in a world full of approach and avoidance, scary animals and friendly animals. It is heavily reliant on affect to guide decision-making."

"In contrast, system two is slower, more deliberative. It requires conscious effort and is used for complex thinking, solving difficult problems, or making careful decisions."

"The relationship between the two systems is critical, and that may get us thinking about Trump in more detail."

Makes sense.

He goes on to explain that system one is "on" all the time, and "often jumps quickly and unconsciously to certain conclusions. System two should check them, but often doesn’t..."

"It appears that Trump makes decisions very quickly (classic system one), often without extensive deliberation or consultation with advisers. Both in his presidency and in his business career, he seemed to prioritise immediate action over any sort of prolonged and thoughtful analysis. That’s why he changes his mind so often."

So, he prioritizes decisiveness and quick action over thoughtful deliberation. Yes. he clealry does.

"His decisions seem to be driven by strong emotions. His response to events, opponents and issues are often passionate and visceral. This could lead to to decisions being unduly influenced by personal feelings, first impressions based on arbitrary cues, and interpersonal perceptions, rather than anything more substantial."

We just bombed Iran because Trump had "a feeling" they were close to building a nuclear weapon. His own intel people say they was no evidence of such.

"Trump’s style of decision-making emphasises immediacy and emotional conviction, which can be effective in rallying supporters and creating a sense of decisiveness. However, it also can lead to unpredictable outcomes and, as has been seen again and again, somewhat controversial, impulsive actions."

Quite an understatement.

Trump's "System two" is not functioning.

 

[j brown's body]

Wow, I'm quoting Pericles' famous speech twice here today. I think of this often when Trump's decision making is in the fore.

"For we have a peculiar power of thinking before we act, and of acting, too, whereas other men are courageous from ignorance but hesitate upon reflection. And they are surely to be esteemed the bravest spirits who, having the clearest sense both of the pains and pleasures of life, do not on that account shrink from danger."

 

[dmpi]

Trump has to make decisions with partial/incomplete information that can also be potentially wrong. You can spend days or weeks deliberating your decisions, you can bring in outside experts (with their own agenda) using some sort of voting logic but in the end, it's just a guess. If that's all it is, you can just as well quickly make that guess yourself. Opportunities don't last forever. Last thing you want is to be frozen in indecisiveness.

 

[ataraxia]

Trump has to make decisions with partial/incomplete information that can also be potentially wrong. You can spend days or weeks deliberating your decisions, you can bring in outside experts (with their own agenda) using some sort of voting logic but in the end, it's just a guess. If that's all it is, you can just as well quickly make that guess yourself. Opportunities don't last forever. Last thing you want is to be frozen in indecisiveness.

He has partial/incomplete information because he doesn't listen to it, not because it doesn't exist. Trump has dismissed the unanimous consensus of every single scientific organization on the planet on climate change, every medical organization on the planet on vaccines and healthcare, all the economists on the economy, and his own intel on foreign affairs.

No need to get too fancy to say he is just an uneducated businessman overestimating his own ability to bull$hit, and in way over his head. This will not end well.

"Trump is the stupid man's idea of a smart man, the poor man's idea of a wealthy man, and the weak man's idea of a strong man."

 

[Lursa]

"Trump is the stupid man's idea of a smart man, the poor man's idea of a wealthy man, and the weak man's idea of a strong man."

Good quote, where is it from?

 

[bubbabgone]

It appears that Trump makes decisions very quickly (classic system one), often without extensive deliberation or consultation with advisers. Both in his presidency and in his business career, he seemed to prioritise immediate action over any sort of prolonged and thoughtful analysis. That’s why he changes his mind so often.

Trump’s f-bomb: a psychologist explains why the president makes fast and furious statements

Donald Trump appears to react quickly and emotionallly to foreign policy decisions, a psychologist explains why that could be.

theconversation.com

Very interesting article. I'm going to parse out some it here, but its well worth a read...

"The Nobel laureate and psychologist Daniel Kahneman, in his book Thinking Fast and Slow (2011), characterised the two systems that underpin everyday decision-making. His work may help with understanding of what’s going on here."

"He describes system one as the evolutionary, basic system. It operates unconsciously, automatically and very quickly, handling everyday tasks like reading other people’s emotions, without any effort. It is an intuitive system designed to work in a world full of approach and avoidance, scary animals and friendly animals. It is heavily reliant on affect to guide decision-making."

"In contrast, system two is slower, more deliberative. It requires conscious effort and is used for complex thinking, solving difficult problems, or making careful decisions."

"The relationship between the two systems is critical, and that may get us thinking about Trump in more detail."

Makes sense.

He goes on to explain that system one is "on" all the time, and "often jumps quickly and unconsciously to certain conclusions. System two should check them, but often doesn’t..."

"It appears that Trump makes decisions very quickly (classic system one), often without extensive deliberation or consultation with advisers. Both in his presidency and in his business career, he seemed to prioritise immediate action over any sort of prolonged and thoughtful analysis. That’s why he changes his mind so often."

So, he prioritizes decisiveness and quick action over thoughtful deliberation. Yes. he clealry does.

"His decisions seem to be driven by strong emotions. His response to events, opponents and issues are often passionate and visceral. This could lead to to decisions being unduly influenced by personal feelings, first impressions based on arbitrary cues, and interpersonal perceptions, rather than anything more substantial."

We just bombed Iran because Trump had "a feeling" they were close to building a nuclear weapon. His own intel people say they was no evidence of such.

"Trump’s style of decision-making emphasises immediacy and emotional conviction, which can be effective in rallying supporters and creating a sense of decisiveness. However, it also can lead to unpredictable outcomes and, as has been seen again and again, somewhat controversial, impulsive actions."

Quite an understatement.

Trump's "System two" is not functioning.

One look at Geoff Beattie's (the "Professor) "activity" his webpage kinda tells you all you need to know about his predelictions for all things non-Trump.
As for what looks like your own contributions to your post ... they were either wrong or supported by anonymous leaks.
Not a good practice to use them to form the conclusions you did.

 

[BabaVoss]

One look at Geoff Beattie's (the "Professor) "activity" his webpage kinda tells you all you need to know about his predelictions for all things non-Trump.

Do tell. What exactly did you glean from your one look?

As for what looks like your own contributions to your post ... they were either wrong or supported by anonymous leaks.

Which ones?

Not a good practice to use them to form the conclusions you did.

Which ones?

What about the thr information attributed to Nobel laureate and psychologist Daniel Kahneman?

Did you read the article?

 

[Jetboogieman]

One look at Geoff Beattie's (the "Professor) "activity" his webpage kinda tells you all you need to know about his predelictions for all things non-Trump.
As for what looks like your own contributions to your post ... they were either wrong or supported by anonymous leaks.
Not a good practice to use them to form the conclusions you did.

Bra.

We don't need leaks to tell us he doesn't think about his actions.

It's evident in his actions.

 

[Girlpower]

I'm sorry but which of Trumps actions have been quick and without thought?

Everything he has done he has talked about for ages.

He has some immediate decisions to make like with Iran but that's to be expected with the job.

So what exactly are you folks referring to?

 

[StillBallin75]

Cause he's governed by emotion and not logic, just like pretty much all of right wing ideology is feelings and vibes over facts and logic (the fact that the right likes to accuse and project their own such deficiencies onto the left has always been hilarious to me).

 

[BabaVoss]

I'm sorry but which of Trumps actions have been quick and without thought?

Everything he has done he has talked about for ages.

He has some immediate decisions to make like with Iran but that's to be expected with the job.

So what exactly are you folks referring to?

You haven't noticed his flip-flops? Really?

 

[CaughtInThe]

He's just an insecure asshole.

 

[bomberfox]

This has been pretty bog standard republicanism since Bush jr.

 

[Girlpower]

You haven't noticed his flip-flops? Really?

Flip flops or strategy?

 

[bubbabgone]

Do tell. What exactly did you glean from your one look?

Click on his name and read the pieces he wrote under "activity"

Which ones?

"His own intel people say they was no evidence of such."

Which ones?

Anonymous holdover leaker from what is probably the DIA. Was it?

What about the thr information attributed to Nobel laureate and psychologist Daniel Kahneman?

Did you read the article?

Near as I can tell, Beattie is who used Kahneman's observations to fit his own biased observations about Trump. And since K's book was written in 2011 it's kind of Beattie's useless opinion about Trump.

Besides, if a track record is as good as Trump's, does it matter how fast he makes things happen?
Ya know for someone who can't bring themselves to admit they were jerked around for over 8 years by sources like yours, you are the one who should be more careful drawing quick conclusions.

 

[BabaVoss]

"What exactly did you glean from your one look?"

Click on his name and read the pieces he wrote under "activity"

You don't know what you learned from your one look?

Anonymous holdover leaker from what is probably the DIA. Was it?

???

Near as I can tell, Beattie is who used Kahneman's observations to fit his own biased observations about Trump. And since K's book was written in 2011 it's kind of Beattie's useless opinion about Trump.

You are entitled to your equally useless and far less educated opinions.

Besides, if a track record is as good as Trump's, does it matter how fast he makes things happen?

You think Trump has a good track record? At what?

Ya know for someone who can't bring themselves to admit they were jerked around for over 8 years by sources like yours, you are the one who should be more careful drawing quick conclusions.

Uh huh.

 

[bubbabgone]

"What exactly did you glean from your one look?"

You don't know what you learned from your one look?



???


You are entitled to your equally useless and far less educated opinions.



You think Trump has a good track record? At what?


Uh huh.

I learned he is biased, he used a different authors work as though that author supported him, it’s now being reported that multiple intel sources concluded that the damage is severe, what were Trump’s failures?
It’s clear that you’ll selectively choose anything that aligns with what you believe.

You still believe Biden was mentally sharp?
That the laptop was fake?
That Russia got Trump elected?
Will you never learn that you’ve been, and continually to be, duped?
Maybe you like it like that.

 

[BabaVoss]

I learned he is biased, he used a different authors work as though that author supported him, it’s now being reported that multiple intel sources concluded that the damage is severe, what were Trump’s failures?
It’s clear that you’ll selectively choose anything that aligns with what you believe.

So nothing specific. Vague stuff. What about the rest of the article? Did you actually read it?

You still believe Biden was mentally sharp?

He is still sharper than Trump.

That the laptop was fake?

???

That Russia got Trump elected?

They certainly tried to help.

Will you never learn that you’ve been, and continually to be, duped?

If you can prove that...but then again, you are a trumper, so you already have been duped.

Maybe you like it like that.

uh huh.

 

[BabaVoss]

Flip flops or strategy?

ROTFLOL...

 

[poppopfox]

Good quote, where is it from?

AI Overview

The provided quote is a subjective observation about Donald Trump and is not attributed to a specific source in the search results
. It suggests that Trump's appeal lies in his perceived embodiment of qualities that some people admire, even if those perceptions differ from how others view him.
Here's an analysis of the quote's points, based on the provided search results:

• "Trump is the stupid man's idea of a smart man": This phrase suggests that Trump's appeal as a "smart" leader might be based on an oversimplification of complex issues or a focus on perceived strengths that his supporters relate to. For example, Trump's tendency to boast about his intelligence and success, such as calling himself a "very stable genius" and "like, really smart," could be seen as appealing to those who admire self-confidence and directness, regardless of whether these claims are objectively verifiable. However, critics point to his occasional public statements and actions as evidence of weaknesses in executive function and an unwillingness to engage with abstract or complex arguments.
• "the poor man's idea of a wealthy man": This part of the quote touches upon the idea that Trump's image as a successful businessman and billionaire resonates with those who aspire to financial freedom and revere the rich. His ability to use his wealth as an asset with voters from different economic backgrounds helps explain his connection with them. However, some critics suggest that the Trump administration may have prioritized the wealthy and large corporations, potentially at the expense of ordinary Americans. Additionally, some argue that the focus on wealth as a measure of "smarts" is flawed.
• "and the weak man's idea of a strong man": This reflects the perception that Trump projects an image of strength and decisiveness, which appeals to those who desire a strong leader. He's seen as a vanguard in the movement to "make America great again". However, this perception is contrasted by his critics, who view him as a deeply flawed individual who prioritizes his own interests and may abuse power.

In conclusion, the quote highlights the polarizing nature of Donald Trump's public persona and suggests that his appeal stems from his ability to embody qualities that resonate with certain groups of people, even if those perceptions are debated and subject to different interpretations.

AI

 

[j brown's body]

Flip flops or strategy?

Last time around, he promised to rain hell on Kim Jong Un. Then he said they were buddies. Nothing much happened except that North Korea continued their arms race.

He likes to run his mouth; be the center of attention. If he gets anything done, it's an accidental bonus. Otherwise, we just live with things like a pandemic running out if control.

 

[Mithrae]

Good quote, where is it from?

AI Overview

The provided quote is a subjective observation about Donald Trump and is not attributed to a specific source in the search results

Never send an AI to do a man's job. The earliest attribution I can find is from 27 February 2017 on itsamoneything.com, where it's attributed to B. J. Leiderman

https://www.google.com/search?q=Don...ce=lnt&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:,cd_max:6/3/2017&tbm=

 

[bubbabgone]

So nothing specific. Vague stuff. What about the rest of the article? Did you actually read it?


He is still sharper than Trump.


???


They certainly tried to help.


If you can prove that...but then again, you are a trumper, so you already have been duped.


uh huh.

There you go. Still clinging to the scams long after their death.