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A Plea To The Media -- Stop Regurgitating Anonymous GOP Attacks

Anonymous sources defending Trump should not be used. Period. And it's a non-story anyway. Bobby Engel is in the Secret Service and he has testified to the Jan 6 Committee. Here, let me remind you. --

Bobby Engel, the head of the president’s protective detail who was in the car at the time, had already spoken at length to the committee. He confirmed the gravamen of her account — that Trump was irate about not be able to going to the Capitol.

What additional "truth" are you searching for regarding this story? You ain't got shit.
The fact that once again you have a problem with finding out what is true is disgusting. If a second hand claim is made about something and the person who was actually there corrects the story that is not defending trump. But I guess in your world he should have just said nothing because pushing your agenda is more important then the truth right?

Hmm let’s see what truth are we talking about. Maybe the one that has you so outraged.
 
I told you what I'm annoyed about it already -- it's the same bad habit the mainstream media always has of throwing Trump a life preserver, using unreliable anonymous sources.
Lol. But no problems with the media using unnamed sources if they are saying something negative towards trump.

Please stop pretending to care about the truth. That claim is such an obvious lie you can see if from miles away.
 
There is no nuance in your posting. There is just straight raging that something said about trump that might not be true and people are trying to find that out. Pretending otherwise is just silly. And even worse you got caught making a dumb statement and are now trying to weasel out of our. Such dishonest behavior. Kind of like calling me a trump supporter. But then we have already discovered that you don’t really care about the truth.
I don't give a flying **** if the steering wheel story is true or not true. For some reason, you do.

It's obvious from both Hutchinson's and Engel's testimony that Trump was very upset that he couldn't go the Capitol. That is what REALLY matters.

And you are just looking for pathetic, desperate ways to defend Trump and ignoring 99.9% of all the other evidence.
 
I told you what I'm annoyed about it already -- it's the same bad habit the mainstream media always has of throwing Trump a life preserver, using unreliable anonymous sources.
I noticed you are still running away from your claims about the SS. Not normal behavior for someone who cares about the truth. Come on. You made some claims. Time to back them up.
 
I don't give a flying **** if the steering wheel story is true or not true. For some reason, you do.

It's obvious from both Hutchinson's and Engel's testimony that Trump was very upset that he couldn't go the Capitol. That is what REALLY matters.

And you are just looking for pathetic, desperate ways to defend Trump and ignoring 99.9% of all the other evidence.
You obviously do because you created this thread to rage about it. Who do you think you are fooling.

So some facts matter but others don’t and people trying to determine if claims are true has you outraged. Interesting.

I have not defended trump at all. Calling out your bs is not defending trump. It’s calling out your bs.
But then maybe that nuance is to much to handle. Maybe try talking a critical thinking class. Maybe 5th grade level or so.
 
I noticed you are still running away from your claims about the SS. Not normal behavior for someone who cares about the truth. Come on. You made some claims. Time to back them up.

What "claim" am I running away from? Your anonymous source ALSO SAID Trump was upset that he couldn't go the Capitol.

Or are you completely clueless about this fact, as well?
 
You obviously do because you created this thread to rage about it. Who do you think you are fooling.
Wrong again. Simply pointing out the media shouldn't use anonymous sources that come from Trump.

Try to keep up. Then maybe you'll be smart enough one day to see Trump's guilt.

I have not defended trump at all. Calling out your bs is not defending trump. It’s calling out your bs.
But then maybe that nuance is to much to handle. Maybe try talking a critical thinking class. Maybe 5th grade level or so.
Except you haven't called out my "bs".

But I've called out your bs. -- your "anonymous source" also admitted that Trump was upset about not being allowed to go to the Capitol.
 
What "claim" am I running away from? Your anonymous source ALSO SAID Trump was upset that he couldn't go the Capitol.

Or are you completely clueless about this fact, as well?
You claimed that everyone in the media knows that trump has heavy influence over the SS. Back that claim up And back up your claim that he actually does
Stop dishonestly running away

And I am very aware that SS said he was upset. It’s just more evidence of trumps guilt. Doesn’t do a lot of good for your claim that trump has heavy influence over the SS though.

Funny how you are happy that they corroborated one part of the story but outraged they dared deny another. Doesn’t seem like you really care about the truth too much.
 
Wrong again. Simply pointing out the media shouldn't use anonymous sources that come from Trump.

Try to keep up. Then maybe you'll be smart enough one day to see Trump's guilt.


Except you haven't called out my "bs".

But I've called out your bs. -- your "anonymous source" also admitted that Trump was upset about not being allowed to go to the Capitol.
Those unnamed sources didn’t come from trump they came from the SS. The fact that you can’t figure that out is ridiculous. And if trump controls them why did the corroborate any of it. Maybe try some critical thinking for a change

But then it’s clear that all you are really doing is proving that you are ok with attacking anyone who doesn’t say what you want them to. Just like trump.

Yes your bs is clearly called out.
 
You claimed that everyone in the media knows that trump has heavy influence over the SS. Back that claim up And back up your claim that he actually does
Trump did have heavy influence over the SS when he was President. Everyone knows that. That's why Mike Pence didn't get in the ****ing car on Jan 6.

Stop trying to derail the thread with your stupid shit.
 
Do you agree that Trump is guilty?

Can a Trumpster on this board actually be honest for once?

Trump knew that John Eastman's plan to have Pence derail the electoral certification process on Jan 6 was illegal.

How do we know this? BECAUSE EASTMAN TOLD TRUMP IT WAS ILLEGAL, according to testimony from Greg Jacobs and Mark Short.

Trump instructing an armed mob to march on the Capitol also has to be a crime. Not to mention all of the witness tampering that Liz Cheney talked about.
well for the hundredth time, i am not now, or ever will be a Trumpster

But if i was on the jury, based upon what i have read (i have not watched any of the shows) and what charges were actually filed against Trump you may have issues

Let me explain why.....

Right now, this is a ONE SIDED presentation.....the defense is not allowed to cross examine to present any evidence

Most of it has been i saw he say.....without again any of their testimony being questioned

So, again....the question becomes does the AG believe the case is strong enough to actually bring it in front of a jury

He has to WIN....he knows that....a loss is not allowable, so unless he has a completely winnable case, i dont think he brings it
 
Those unnamed sources didn’t come from trump they came from the SS. The fact that you can’t figure that out is ridiculous. And if trump controls them why did the corroborate any of it. Maybe try some critical thinking for a change

But then it’s clear that all you are really doing is proving that you are ok with attacking anyone who doesn’t say what you want them to. Just like trump.

Yes your bs is clearly called out.

This is why the SS can't be trusted and why the mainstream media shouldn't use any anonymous sources from them. --

In 2019, then President Trump removed the director of the Secret Service, Randolph "Tex" Alles, in what one unnamed official called "a near-systematic purge" of the agency. Trump then appointed James Murray as his replacement and Murray is still in the post.

Following President Joe Biden's election victory in 2020, it was widely reported that changes would be made to the Secret Service and agents who had protected Biden during the Obama administration would be brought back. Some of the president's allies were reportedly concerned about Secret Service agents having loyalty to Trump.

 
well for the hundredth time, i am not now, or ever will be a Trumpster
Yeah, you are.

But if i was on the jury, based upon what i have read (i have not watched any of the shows) and what charges were actually filed against Trump you may have issues

Let me explain why.....

Right now, this is a ONE SIDED presentation.....the defense is not allowed to cross examine to present any evidence
Not good enough. Gaslighting argument.

You can't complain about a "ONE SIDED presentation" when none of Trump's people will testify. Or they plead the Fifth 200 times, like John Eastman and Michael Flynn. And people don't ask for pardons when they are innocent, either.

A wise person would come to the obvious conclusion -- there is only one side and Trump is guilty.

Even Hillary Clinton was willing to endure 12 hours of hostile testimony from Republicans during the nonsense Benghazi hearings -- because she was innocent. It's obvious that Hillary has a bigger pair than Trump ever will.

Most of it has been i saw he say.....without again any of their testimony being questioned
Again, they won't testify. So this is another stupid point.

So, again....the question becomes does the AG believe the case is strong enough to actually bring it in front of a jury

He has to WIN....he knows that....a loss is not allowable, so unless he has a completely winnable case, i dont think he brings it
Garland does not have to win. However, he must stand up for democracy. Not bringing a case forward will cause more damage to the country than Trump being found not guilty.
 
Yeah, you are.


Not good enough. Gaslighting argument.

You can't complain about a "ONE SIDED presentation" when none of Trump's people will testify. Or they plead the Fifth 200 times, like John Eastman and Michael Flynn. And people don't ask for pardons when they are innocent, either.

A wise person would come to the obvious conclusion -- there is only one side and Trump is guilty.

Even Hillary Clinton was willing to endure 12 hours of hostile testimony from Republicans during the nonsense Benghazi hearings -- because she was innocent. It's obvious that Hillary has a bigger pair than Trump ever will.


Again, they won't testify. So this is another stupid point.


Garland does not have to win. However, he must stand up for democracy. Not bringing a case forward will cause more damage to the country than Trump being found not guilty.
this will be my last post to you

you might want to learn about American law, and democracy.....

the accused doesnt have to testify...never have, and NEVER WILL

Because people didnt want to participate in the democrats "show", that CANNOT BE HELD AGAINST THEM IN A COURT OF LAW

and you arent that stupid.....you already knew it.....

you all are just mad this isnt going your way.....you were hoping for a miracle to save the midterms.....i dont think it is coming

So beat your chest, declare victory....do anything you like

The rest of us will ignore you literally.......
 
this will be my last post to you

you might want to learn about American law, and democracy.....

the accused doesnt have to testify...never have, and NEVER WILL

Because people didnt want to participate in the democrats "show", that CANNOT BE HELD AGAINST THEM IN A COURT OF LAW

and you arent that stupid.....you already knew it.....

you all are just mad this isnt going your way.....you were hoping for a miracle to save the midterms.....i dont think it is coming

So beat your chest, declare victory....do anything you like

The rest of us will ignore you literally.......

I'm going to be ignored by intellectually dishonest Trumpsters such as yourself.

That truly devastates me.
 
Trump did have heavy influence over the SS when he was President. Everyone knows that. That's why Mike Pence didn't get in the ****ing car on Jan 6.

Stop trying to derail the thread with your stupid shit.
And when did he stop being president again. And you need to prove he could influence what they said. Him simply being president isn’t that.

Let’s see you back up your claim. Stop
running.

But it’s funny that you think someone asking you to back up the claim you made is derailing your thread.
 
This is why the SS can't be trusted and why the mainstream media shouldn't use any anonymous sources from them. --

In 2019, then President Trump removed the director of the Secret Service, Randolph "Tex" Alles, in what one unnamed official called "a near-systematic purge" of the agency. Trump then appointed James Murray as his replacement and Murray is still in the post.

Following President Joe Biden's election victory in 2020, it was widely reported that changes would be made to the Secret Service and agents who had protected Biden during the Obama administration would be brought back. Some of the president's allies were reportedly concerned about Secret Service agents having loyalty to Trump.

So we are now attacking an American institution because they said something you don’t like. Yep sounds just like trump.

But thank you for proving my point. You have no problems with using unnamed sources seeing as that is who you just quoted and who you are trusting completely.

And you think your BS isn’t obvious. Seriously.
 
So we are now attacking an American institution because they said something you don’t like. Yep sounds just like trump.

But thank you for proving my point. You have no problems with using unnamed sources seeing as that is who you just quoted and who you are trusting completely.

And you think your BS isn’t obvious. Seriously.

Nope. Wrong again. As I just told you, Trump appointed James Murray in 2019 to head the Secret Service. And he is still there.

So, again, the mainstream media shouldn't quote anonymous sources from the SS. It is still filled with Trump loyalists.
 
Nope. Wrong again. As I just told you, Trump appointed James Murray in 2019 to head the Secret Service. And he is still there.

So, again, the mainstream media shouldn't quote anonymous sources from the SS. It is still filled with Trump loyalists.
And that changes what. Oh that’s right nothing. We are not talking about what Murray said.
Trump has no influence over him and hasn’t for quite some time now. And he doesn’t have influence over any other agents as well. You know the people who we are actually talking about.
The fact that you are so willing to attack people who have spent decades serving this country simply because they say something you don’t like is so very much like trump. It’s blatantly obvious that you and trump are two sides of the same coin


But explain to us how trump controls what the SS says but yet somehow they still corroborated the most damaging part of the testimony and only discredited one part of it. Please explain how in your world that makes sense.

And yet you are fine with unnamed sources if they come from left leaning source. Hmmm yep sure seems like you care about the truth right?
The fact that you think you are fooling anyone is hilarious.
 
And that changes what. Oh that’s right nothing. We are not talking about what Murray said.
Trump has no influence over him and hasn’t for quite some time now. And he doesn’t have influence over any other agents as well. You know the people who we are actually talking about.
The fact that you are so willing to attack people who have spent decades serving this country simply because they say something you don’t like is so very much like trump. It’s blatantly obvious that you and trump are two sides of the same coin


But explain to us how trump controls what the SS says but yet somehow they still corroborated the most damaging part of the testimony and only discredited one part of it. Please explain how in your world that makes sense.

And yet you are fine with unnamed sources if they come from left leaning source. Hmmm yep sure seems like you care about the truth right?
The fact that you think you are fooling anyone is hilarious.

Anonymous members of the SS are an unreliable source for any media publication. As a I already explained. They simply can't be trusted anymore.

The fact that you can't accept that is your problem, not mine.
 
Anonymous members of the SS are an unreliable source for any media publication. As a I already explained. They simply can't be trusted anymore.

The fact that you can't accept that is your problem, not mine.
But yet unnamed sources put forth from democrats are just fine right,
You didn’t provide any evidence to back up your claim. You just repeated it. Sorry that’s not proof.

But please explain why the SS are controlled by trump yet corroborated the most damaging part of the testimony. I notice you keep running away from this. Hmmmm wonder why.


Two sides same coin. You and trump.
Hilarious you don’t see this. But then I don’t doubt that trump sees just how horrible he is either.
 
But yet unnamed sources put forth from democrats are just fine right,
Well, yeah....since Democrats didn't try to overthrow our democracy like your traitor hero Trump. They deserve more credibility than Trump and his traitor loyalists when it comes to testimony and evidence regarding Jan 6, that's for sure.

You didn’t provide any evidence to back up your claim. You just repeated it. Sorry that’s not proof.
Sure I did -- Bobby Engel, a member of the SS, corroborated Hutchinson's testimony that Trump was very upset he couldn't go the Capitol.

So I'm not sure what you keep babbling on about.


But please explain why the SS are controlled by trump yet corroborated the most damaging part of the testimony. I notice you keep running away from this. Hmmmm wonder why.
Engel is NOT an anonymous source and he testified under oath to the Jan 6 Committee. Do you finally get it?

If not, go back to the 5th grade like I told you and take a critical thinking course.
 
Many of you probably heard the news tonight of the Secret Service deleting text messages related to Jan 6.

Again, this is exactly why the "liberal" mainstream media needs to stop throwing life preservers to Trump and the entire traitor Republican Nazi Party. The mainstream media should NOT quote any anonymous sources that support Trump, period. And that includes members of the Secret Service.

Hey Trumpsters....when is the Secret Service going to appear before the Jan 6 Committee and refute Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony??? We're still waiting.

As always -- you all ain't got shit.
 
Well, yeah....since Democrats didn't try to overthrow our democracy like your traitor hero Trump. They deserve more credibility than Trump and his traitor loyalists when it comes to testimony and evidence regarding Jan 6, that's for sure.


Sure I did -- Bobby Engel, a member of the SS, corroborated Hutchinson's testimony that Trump was very upset he couldn't go the Capitol.

So I'm not sure what you keep babbling on about.



Engel is NOT an anonymous source and he testified under oath to the Jan 6 Committee. Do you finally get it?

If not, go back to the 5th grade like I told you and take a critical thinking course.
Why am I not surprised that the moment your bs is called out your only comeback is well you are a trump supporter. Tell you what let’s make a bet. If I can’t find 10 posts of mine calling trump a pos for every one you can find of me saying something good about him I will leave this site. But if you can’t you leave this site. What do you say.

Being upset doesn’t back up the rest of the claim. Strange you can’t understand that.

So about the bet. What say you.

But at the end of the day your partisan nonsense is perfectly on display. You are super happy to accept unnamed sources as long as they agree with your ideology. But the moment they don’t you have a giant problem with it.
But then most 5th graders could recognize your hypocrisy.
 
Why am I not surprised that the moment your bs is called out your only comeback is well you are a trump supporter. Tell you what let’s make a bet. If I can’t find 10 posts of mine calling trump a pos for every one you can find of me saying something good about him I will leave this site. But if you can’t you leave this site. What do you say.

Being upset doesn’t back up the rest of the claim. Strange you can’t understand that.

So about the bet. What say you.

But at the end of the day your partisan nonsense is perfectly on display. You are super happy to accept unnamed sources as long as they agree with your ideology. But the moment they don’t you have a giant problem with it.
But then most 5th graders could recognize your hypocrisy.

You obviously can't even understand what I wrote. Just go away.
 
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