A Mole Infiltrated American Militias (on his own and without telling anyone) And Here's What He Found. It's shocking. (1 Viewer)

[CaughtInThe]

First, read the entire article at the link. It's stunning and a picture of the anti-American underbelly of MAGA and American Militias.

He was outraged by Jan 6, he spent two years getting inside the top ranks of militias like the Oath Keepers. He was stunningly successful. He penetrated a new generation of militia leaders, which included doctors, cops & government attorneys."

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"The files give a unique window, at once expansive and intimate, into one of the most consequential and volatile social movements of our time. Williams penetrated a new generation of paramilitary leaders, which included doctors, career cops and government attorneys. Sometimes they were frightening, sometimes bumbling, always heavily armed. It was a world where a man would propose assassinating politicians, only to spark a debate about logistics."

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Williams is part of a larger cold war, radical vs. radical, that’s stayed mostly in the shadows. A left-wing activist told me he personally knows about 30 people who’ve gone undercover in militias or white supremacist groups. They did not coordinate with law enforcement, instead taking the surveillance of one of the most intractable features of American politics into their own hands."

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Skeptical of authorities, militias have sought to reshape the country through armed action. Williams sought to do it through betrayals and lies, which sat with him uneasily. “I couldn’t have been as successful at this if I wasn’t one of them in some respects,” he once told me. “I couldn’t have done it so long unless they recognized something in me.”

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In the daylight, Williams dropped an envelope with no return address in a U.S. Postal Service mailbox. He’d loaded it with a flash drive and a gold Oath Keepers medallion.

It was addressed to me.

The documents laid out a remarkable odyssey. Posing as an ideological compatriot, Williams had penetrated the top ranks of two of the most prominent right-wing militias in the country. He’d slept in the home of the man who claims to be the new head of the Oath Keepers, rifling through his files in the middle of the night. He’d devised elaborate ruses to gather evidence of militias’ ties to high-ranking law enforcement officials. He’d uncovered secret operations like the surveillance of a young journalist, then improvised ways to sabotage the militants’ schemes. In one group, his ploys were so successful that he became the militia’s top commander in the state of Utah."

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"Williams believes extremists will try to murder him after this story is published. And if they fail, he thinks he’ll “live to see the United States cease to exist.”

The Militia and the Mole

Outraged by the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, a wilderness survival trainer spent years undercover climbing the ranks of right-wing militias. He didn’t tell police or the FBI. He didn’t tell family or friends. The one person he told was a ProPublica reporter.

www.propublica.org

 

[Maccabee]

First, read the entire article at the link. It's stunning and a picture of the anti-American underbelly of MAGA and American Militias.

He was outraged by Jan 6, he spent two years getting inside the top ranks of militias like the Oath Keepers. He was stunningly successful. He penetrated a new generation of militia leaders, which included doctors, cops & government attorneys."

...

"The files give a unique window, at once expansive and intimate, into one of the most consequential and volatile social movements of our time. Williams penetrated a new generation of paramilitary leaders, which included doctors, career cops and government attorneys. Sometimes they were frightening, sometimes bumbling, always heavily armed. It was a world where a man would propose assassinating politicians, only to spark a debate about logistics."

...

Williams is part of a larger cold war, radical vs. radical, that’s stayed mostly in the shadows. A left-wing activist told me he personally knows about 30 people who’ve gone undercover in militias or white supremacist groups. They did not coordinate with law enforcement, instead taking the surveillance of one of the most intractable features of American politics into their own hands."

...

Skeptical of authorities, militias have sought to reshape the country through armed action. Williams sought to do it through betrayals and lies, which sat with him uneasily. “I couldn’t have been as successful at this if I wasn’t one of them in some respects,” he once told me. “I couldn’t have done it so long unless they recognized something in me.”

...

In the daylight, Williams dropped an envelope with no return address in a U.S. Postal Service mailbox. He’d loaded it with a flash drive and a gold Oath Keepers medallion.

It was addressed to me.

The documents laid out a remarkable odyssey. Posing as an ideological compatriot, Williams had penetrated the top ranks of two of the most prominent right-wing militias in the country. He’d slept in the home of the man who claims to be the new head of the Oath Keepers, rifling through his files in the middle of the night. He’d devised elaborate ruses to gather evidence of militias’ ties to high-ranking law enforcement officials. He’d uncovered secret operations like the surveillance of a young journalist, then improvised ways to sabotage the militants’ schemes. In one group, his ploys were so successful that he became the militia’s top commander in the state of Utah."

...

"Williams believes extremists will try to murder him after this story is published. And if they fail, he thinks he’ll “live to see the United States cease to exist.”

The Militia and the Mole

Outraged by the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, a wilderness survival trainer spent years undercover climbing the ranks of right-wing militias. He didn’t tell police or the FBI. He didn’t tell family or friends. The one person he told was a ProPublica reporter.

www.propublica.org

FaKe NeWs!!!1!!!!

 

[skews13.]

First, read the entire article at the link. It's stunning and a picture of the anti-American underbelly of MAGA and American Militias.

He was outraged by Jan 6, he spent two years getting inside the top ranks of militias like the Oath Keepers. He was stunningly successful. He penetrated a new generation of militia leaders, which included doctors, cops & government attorneys."

...

"The files give a unique window, at once expansive and intimate, into one of the most consequential and volatile social movements of our time. Williams penetrated a new generation of paramilitary leaders, which included doctors, career cops and government attorneys. Sometimes they were frightening, sometimes bumbling, always heavily armed. It was a world where a man would propose assassinating politicians, only to spark a debate about logistics."

...

Williams is part of a larger cold war, radical vs. radical, that’s stayed mostly in the shadows. A left-wing activist told me he personally knows about 30 people who’ve gone undercover in militias or white supremacist groups. They did not coordinate with law enforcement, instead taking the surveillance of one of the most intractable features of American politics into their own hands."

...

Skeptical of authorities, militias have sought to reshape the country through armed action. Williams sought to do it through betrayals and lies, which sat with him uneasily. “I couldn’t have been as successful at this if I wasn’t one of them in some respects,” he once told me. “I couldn’t have done it so long unless they recognized something in me.”

...

In the daylight, Williams dropped an envelope with no return address in a U.S. Postal Service mailbox. He’d loaded it with a flash drive and a gold Oath Keepers medallion.

It was addressed to me.

The documents laid out a remarkable odyssey. Posing as an ideological compatriot, Williams had penetrated the top ranks of two of the most prominent right-wing militias in the country. He’d slept in the home of the man who claims to be the new head of the Oath Keepers, rifling through his files in the middle of the night. He’d devised elaborate ruses to gather evidence of militias’ ties to high-ranking law enforcement officials. He’d uncovered secret operations like the surveillance of a young journalist, then improvised ways to sabotage the militants’ schemes. In one group, his ploys were so successful that he became the militia’s top commander in the state of Utah."

...

"Williams believes extremists will try to murder him after this story is published. And if they fail, he thinks he’ll “live to see the United States cease to exist.”

The Militia and the Mole

Outraged by the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, a wilderness survival trainer spent years undercover climbing the ranks of right-wing militias. He didn’t tell police or the FBI. He didn’t tell family or friends. The one person he told was a ProPublica reporter.

www.propublica.org

Not really shocking. It's no difference than the KKK. All of these militias are just offshoots of the original Klan. There were similar stories from moles that infiltrated the original.

The one thing they all have in common, is the belief they don't have to exist, or pay by the rules of mainstream society, and can use force to keep that separation.

The other thing they all have in common, is they are to gutless, to do it out in the open, where their faces are seen in the light.

 

[dmpi]

Is there such a thing a unbiased mole? You come in there with an agenda, you come out finding exactly what you were looking for, and then when it comes to presenting your results you further embellish your findings. With the Internet's wide audience appeal you'll find millions of people that will agree with you.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Is there such a thing a unbiased mole? You come in there with an agenda, you come out finding exactly what you were looking for, and then when it comes to presenting your results you further embellish your findings. With the Internet's wide audience appeal you'll find millions of people that will agree with you.

This is a post trying to explain away the horrible things that the anti-American militias are doing.

Everyone take note.

 

[Phys251]

Is there such a thing a unbiased mole? You come in there with an agenda, you come out finding exactly what you were looking for, and then when it comes to presenting your results you further embellish your findings. With the Internet's wide audience appeal you'll find millions of people that will agree with you.

This is not a good way to convince us that you are against extremist militias.

 

[Allan]

This is a post trying to explain away the horrible things that the anti-American militias are doing.

Everyone take note.

This is the playbook.

The 2022 plot to overthrow the German Government included a Prince, military and police and even a judge.

 

[EdwinWillers]

First, read the entire article at the link. It's stunning and a picture of the anti-American underbelly of MAGA and American Militias.
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Speaking of moles....

This is a post trying to explain away the horrible things that the anti-American militias are doing.

Everyone take note.

"Everyone! Take Note!!!"

Unbelievable (literally and figuratively)

 

[Peacenik]

Such hatred for the real actual America. A weird twisted vision of what they think America ought to be. Denial of the reality of what America actually is. Very twisted.

This is why they call extremists extremists. Extremely unpopular views. And of course they think they are right and everybody else who obeys law enforcement is wrong.

These are not "well regulated militias." They are not regulated at all. They have no right to their weapons under the 2nd Amendment.

 

[Lex Talionis]

Is there such a thing a unbiased mole? You come in there with an agenda, you come out finding exactly what you were looking for, and then when it comes to presenting your results you further embellish your findings. With the Internet's wide audience appeal you'll find millions of people that will agree with you.

"I'm Jack's complete lack of surprise"

 

[CaughtInThe]

This is the playbook.

The 2022 plot to overthrow the German Government included a Prince, military and police and even a judge.

It's all so easy to see but hard to get the exact names/plans.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Speaking of moles....

"Everyone! Take Note!!!"

Unbelievable (literally and figuratively)

I don't think it's at all surprising that you would try to divert the thread in a manner that takes a spotlight off of the anti American militias who are planning horrible things.

Diversions like that are just part of MAGA.

 

[eman623]

You don't hear much from or about Oath Keepers nowadays. And the "Three Percenters" who take their name from the fact that no more than 3% of the population fought against the British in the American Revolution do NOT have 10 million members which would be 3% of the 340 million Americans. They should be called and "Zero-Zero-Zero-Point-Three-Percenters". And even that is probably way too generous. Another "zero" could probably be added in there.

 

[Toggle Almendro]

These are not "well regulated militias." They are not regulated at all.

Do you have any evidence that this militia is not organized and has not trained? If so, what is that evidence?

They have no right to their weapons under the 2nd Amendment.

The Constitution says otherwise.

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

 

[Ikari]

MAGA commies want us to be more like North Korea, with Trump as Dear Leader.

 

[Safiel]

First, read the entire article at the link. It's stunning and a picture of the anti-American underbelly of MAGA and American Militias.

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Faux militias.

Currently, there exist just two organized, legal and constitutional militias in the United States. The United States National Guard and the Naval Militia. Both are well regulated and are the only organized militias currently authorized to exist by Congress.

Any shit show calling itself a militia is an illegal private paramilitary force, illegal under the laws of the United States and the laws of all 50 States.

The unorganized militia is just that, unorganized. It does not train and is not required to be armed and basically exists for the purpose of legally authorizing States to conscript individuals into their State National Guard, though this has never happened.

Now granted, these paramilitaries are of little threat as a group. Most of them are big talking cowards who would skulk into the darkness given the slightest show of force by the government. The trouble is the lone wolves. The ones who are downright crazy or disturbed enough to actually engage in an act of violence. But sometimes you do get larger disturbances, such as Charlottesville or the January 6th insurrection.

I would like to see more government efforts at infiltrating and actively disrupting the activities of these groups.

But I commend anybody who exposes their rot.

While I support the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, the Second Amendment does not protect unauthorized paramilitary activity. It was merely drafted to prevent the Federal Government from disarming State Militias as they existed prior to the Dick Act in 1903.

 

[CLAX1911]

First, read the entire article at the link. It's stunning and a picture of the anti-American underbelly of MAGA and American Militias.

When you say militia do you really mean militia or some separatist group? Because they're not the same thing the news media is calling them that and you're just falling for it not even questioning them

He was outraged by Jan 6, he spent two years getting inside the top ranks of militias like the Oath Keepers.

So not militias at all

He was stunningly successful. He penetrated a new generation of militia leaders, which included doctors, cops & government attorneys."

...

"The files give a unique window, at once expansive and intimate, into one of the most consequential and volatile social movements of our time. Williams penetrated a new generation of paramilitary leaders, which included doctors, career cops and government attorneys. Sometimes they were frightening, sometimes bumbling, always heavily armed. It was a world where a man would propose assassinating politicians, only to spark a debate about logistics."

...

Williams is part of a larger cold war, radical vs. radical, that’s stayed mostly in the shadows. A left-wing activist told me he personally knows about 30 people who’ve gone undercover in militias or white supremacist groups. They did not coordinate with law enforcement, instead taking the surveillance of one of the most intractable features of American politics into their own hands."

...

Skeptical of authorities, militias have sought to reshape the country through armed action. Williams sought to do it through betrayals and lies, which sat with him uneasily. “I couldn’t have been as successful at this if I wasn’t one of them in some respects,” he once told me. “I couldn’t have done it so long unless they recognized something in me.”

...

In the daylight, Williams dropped an envelope with no return address in a U.S. Postal Service mailbox. He’d loaded it with a flash drive and a gold Oath Keepers medallion.

It was addressed to me.

The documents laid out a remarkable odyssey. Posing as an ideological compatriot, Williams had penetrated the top ranks of two of the most prominent right-wing militias in the country. He’d slept in the home of the man who claims to be the new head of the Oath Keepers, rifling through his files in the middle of the night. He’d devised elaborate ruses to gather evidence of militias’ ties to high-ranking law enforcement officials. He’d uncovered secret operations like the surveillance of a young journalist, then improvised ways to sabotage the militants’ schemes. In one group, his ploys were so successful that he became the militia’s top commander in the state of Utah."

...

"Williams believes extremists will try to murder him after this story is published. And if they fail, he thinks he’ll “live to see the United States cease to exist.”

The Militia and the Mole

Outraged by the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, a wilderness survival trainer spent years undercover climbing the ranks of right-wing militias. He didn’t tell police or the FBI. He didn’t tell family or friends. The one person he told was a ProPublica reporter.

www.propublica.org

 

[CLAX1911]

This is not a good way to convince us that you are against extremist militias.

They aren't extremist militias that's not a thing.

They're separatists groups. You can't be the militia if you're separatist.

 

[Lord of Planar]

First, read the entire article at the link. It's stunning and a picture of the anti-American underbelly of MAGA and American Militias.

He was outraged by Jan 6, he spent two years getting inside the top ranks of militias like the Oath Keepers. He was stunningly successful. He penetrated a new generation of militia leaders, which included doctors, cops & government attorneys."

...

"The files give a unique window, at once expansive and intimate, into one of the most consequential and volatile social movements of our time. Williams penetrated a new generation of paramilitary leaders, which included doctors, career cops and government attorneys. Sometimes they were frightening, sometimes bumbling, always heavily armed. It was a world where a man would propose assassinating politicians, only to spark a debate about logistics."

...

Williams is part of a larger cold war, radical vs. radical, that’s stayed mostly in the shadows. A left-wing activist told me he personally knows about 30 people who’ve gone undercover in militias or white supremacist groups. They did not coordinate with law enforcement, instead taking the surveillance of one of the most intractable features of American politics into their own hands."

...

Skeptical of authorities, militias have sought to reshape the country through armed action. Williams sought to do it through betrayals and lies, which sat with him uneasily. “I couldn’t have been as successful at this if I wasn’t one of them in some respects,” he once told me. “I couldn’t have done it so long unless they recognized something in me.”

...

In the daylight, Williams dropped an envelope with no return address in a U.S. Postal Service mailbox. He’d loaded it with a flash drive and a gold Oath Keepers medallion.

It was addressed to me.

The documents laid out a remarkable odyssey. Posing as an ideological compatriot, Williams had penetrated the top ranks of two of the most prominent right-wing militias in the country. He’d slept in the home of the man who claims to be the new head of the Oath Keepers, rifling through his files in the middle of the night. He’d devised elaborate ruses to gather evidence of militias’ ties to high-ranking law enforcement officials. He’d uncovered secret operations like the surveillance of a young journalist, then improvised ways to sabotage the militants’ schemes. In one group, his ploys were so successful that he became the militia’s top commander in the state of Utah."

...

"Williams believes extremists will try to murder him after this story is published. And if they fail, he thinks he’ll “live to see the United States cease to exist.”

The Militia and the Mole

Outraged by the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, a wilderness survival trainer spent years undercover climbing the ranks of right-wing militias. He didn’t tell police or the FBI. He didn’t tell family or friends. The one person he told was a ProPublica reporter.

www.propublica.org

Sounds like a nice fiction story.

Where can I buy the book?

 

[CLAX1911]

Sounds like a nice fiction story.

Where can I buy the book?

I've tried to find stuff on oath keepers an qanon. I know I can get is the scumbag tabloids like MSNBC and CNN and such talking about how evil they are and how they absolutely truly exist it reads like that episode of South Park with Al Gore in it.

Nothing from the actual organization so that tells me it's not real

 

[trumptman]

First, read the entire article at the link. It's stunning and a picture of the anti-American underbelly of MAGA and American Militias.

He was outraged by Jan 6, he spent two years getting inside the top ranks of militias like the Oath Keepers. He was stunningly successful. He penetrated a new generation of militia leaders, which included doctors, cops & government attorneys."

...

"The files give a unique window, at once expansive and intimate, into one of the most consequential and volatile social movements of our time. Williams penetrated a new generation of paramilitary leaders, which included doctors, career cops and government attorneys. Sometimes they were frightening, sometimes bumbling, always heavily armed. It was a world where a man would propose assassinating politicians, only to spark a debate about logistics."

...

Williams is part of a larger cold war, radical vs. radical, that’s stayed mostly in the shadows. A left-wing activist told me he personally knows about 30 people who’ve gone undercover in militias or white supremacist groups. They did not coordinate with law enforcement, instead taking the surveillance of one of the most intractable features of American politics into their own hands."

...

Skeptical of authorities, militias have sought to reshape the country through armed action. Williams sought to do it through betrayals and lies, which sat with him uneasily. “I couldn’t have been as successful at this if I wasn’t one of them in some respects,” he once told me. “I couldn’t have done it so long unless they recognized something in me.”

...

In the daylight, Williams dropped an envelope with no return address in a U.S. Postal Service mailbox. He’d loaded it with a flash drive and a gold Oath Keepers medallion.

It was addressed to me.

The documents laid out a remarkable odyssey. Posing as an ideological compatriot, Williams had penetrated the top ranks of two of the most prominent right-wing militias in the country. He’d slept in the home of the man who claims to be the new head of the Oath Keepers, rifling through his files in the middle of the night. He’d devised elaborate ruses to gather evidence of militias’ ties to high-ranking law enforcement officials. He’d uncovered secret operations like the surveillance of a young journalist, then improvised ways to sabotage the militants’ schemes. In one group, his ploys were so successful that he became the militia’s top commander in the state of Utah."

...

"Williams believes extremists will try to murder him after this story is published. And if they fail, he thinks he’ll “live to see the United States cease to exist.”

The Militia and the Mole

Outraged by the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, a wilderness survival trainer spent years undercover climbing the ranks of right-wing militias. He didn’t tell police or the FBI. He didn’t tell family or friends. The one person he told was a ProPublica reporter.

www.propublica.org

Cool story bro....

 

[Lord of Planar]

I've tried to find stuff on oath keepers an qanon. I know I can get is the scumbag tabloids like MSNBC and CNN and such talking about how evil they are and how they absolutely truly exist it reads like that episode of South Park with Al Gore in it.

Nothing from the actual organization so that tells me it's not real

It could be real, but I have a difficult time believing it is so. It sound more like it is made-up fiction.

 

[CLAX1911]

It could be real, but I have a difficult time believing it is so. It sound more like it is made-up fiction.

It's impossible to find any source on it it's just hearsay. Mostly from media organizations that desperately need a boogeyman

 

[Toggle Almendro]

Faux militias.

That is incorrect. The members of these groups appear to legitimately be American citizens. As such, they are part of the militia and have the right to organize and train.

Currently, there exist just two organized, legal and constitutional militias in the United States. The United States National Guard and the Naval Militia.

That is incorrect in at least two ways.

First, the National Guard are part of the US Army. As such they are not part of the militia.

Second, so far as the Constitution is concerned, the militia is the entire people (except for those who are members of a standing army).

Both are well regulated and are the only organized militias currently authorized to exist by Congress.

Except, as I noted above, they aren’t militia. The National Guard are part of a standing army.

Any shit show calling itself a militia is an illegal private paramilitary force, illegal under the laws of the United States and the laws of all 50 States.

Those laws violate the Second Amendment. Militiamen have the right to organize and train. And if the government neglects its duty to organize and train them, militiamen have the right to see to their own organization and training.

The unorganized militia is just that, unorganized. It does not train and is not required to be armed and basically exists for the purpose of legally authorizing States to conscript individuals into their State National Guard, though this has never happened.

The draft has in fact happened. Ask someone of the Vietnam War generation.

The unorganized militia may not be required to be armed under current law, but they have the right to be armed if they so choose.

Now granted, these paramilitaries are of little threat as a group. Most of them are big talking cowards who would skulk into the darkness given the slightest show of force by the government. The trouble is the lone wolves. The ones who are downright crazy or disturbed enough to actually engage in an act of violence. But sometimes you do get larger disturbances, such as Charlottesville or the January 6th insurrection.

Public protest marches like Charlottesville are disturbances??

I would like to see more government efforts at infiltrating and actively disrupting the activities of these groups.

If they are doing or planning something illegal then the government is right to disrupt their activities.

If they are not doing or planning something illegal then the government does not have the right to disrupt them.

But I commend anybody who exposes their rot.

Rot? You sure have a lot of disdain for your fellow Americans (who haven’t even done anything wrong).

the Second Amendment does not protect unauthorized paramilitary activity.

That is incorrect. The Second Amendment protects the right of militiamen to organize and train.

While it is true that the Founding Fathers envisioned this organizing and training being carried out by the government, when the government neglects its duty and does not organize and train them, militiamen have the right to see to their own organization and training.

It was merely drafted to prevent the Federal Government from disarming State Militias as they existed prior to the Dick Act in 1903.

That is incorrect. It is the entire people who are protected from being disarmed.

 

[post]

I've tried to find stuff on oath keepers an qanon. I know I can get is the scumbag tabloids like MSNBC and CNN and such talking about how evil they are and how they absolutely truly exist it reads like that episode of South Park with Al Gore in it.

Nothing from the actual organization so that tells me it's not real

Of course you’ve read the trial transcript(s) and examined the exhibits in evidence.

A total of nine convicted,


November 21, 2022

Third Oath Keepers defendant pleads guilty to sedition in Capitol riot case

William Todd Wilson, a 44-year-old military and law enforcement veteran, has agreed to cooperate with authorities.

www.nbcnews.com

Four More Oath Keepers Members Convicted of Sedition in Second Trial (Published 2023)

The four members of the far-right militia were found guilty of seditious conspiracy nearly two months after the group’s leader, Stewart Rhodes, was convicted of the same charge in a separate proceeding.

www.nytimes.com

January 23, 2023