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A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinton

Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

Post 415 went into great detail to thoroughly and utterly refute your charge. Please read it again.

Bwahahahahahhahahaha! You mean this parroting of no evidence?

Only in the delusions of the far right wing belief system are the professional conclusions of 17 intelligence and defense agencies considered as not evidence.

I'd say my post here...

Still got no evidence? LMAO! Not even one shred? Here is why...

There’s a lot of evidence from the attack on the table, mostly detailing how the hack was perpetrated, and possibly the language of the perpetrators. It certainly remains plausible that Russians hacked the DNC, and remains possible that Russia itself ordered it. But the refrain of Russian attribution has been repeated so regularly and so emphatically that it’s become easy to forget that no one has ever truly proven the claim. There is strong evidence indicating that Democratic email accounts were breached via phishing messages, and that specific malware was spread across DNC computers. There’s even evidence that the attackers are the same group that’s been spotted attacking other targets in the past. But again: No one has actually proven that group is the Russian government (or works for it). This remains the enormous inductive leap that’s not been reckoned with, and Americans deserve better. - https://theintercept.com/2016/12/14/heres-the-public-evidence-russia-hacked-the-dnc-its-not-enough/

Mr. King, a New York Republican who sits on the House intelligence committee, said the intelligence community has not been presented with any evidence to support the claim. - Peter King: CIA doing 'hit job' against Donald Trump; 'no evidence' Russia behind Podesta hack - Washington Times

The revelations that Russia actively sought to influence the American election and help Donald Trump become the next president are shocking, mind-blowing and downright scary. But here is something they are not: evidence that the Russians hacked voting machines or changed the Election Day count. Unsubstantiated assertions that Russia actually manipulated the vote tally are themselves dangerous. - Russia's role is shocking but there's no evidence the vote was hacked - CNN.com

Only a few days ago the New York Times acknowledged that the CIA finding that the Kremlin hacked the Democratic National Convention’s computers with the intention of influencing the US presidential election was based, not on evidence, but conjecture. Today, the newspaper’s reporters have forgotten their earlier caveats and have begun to treat the intelligence agency’s guess-work as an established truth. - How an Evidence-Free CIA Finding Alleging Russian Interference in the US Election was Turned into an Indisputable ?Truth? | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

Now do you have evidence that no one else has? Or are you going to continue the run in the hamster wheel, lol.

Directly refutes your cop out sentence. :lamo
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

You still have no evidence of that claim.

The only way to find out is to reform the voting laws to prevent the possibility of fraud

Then if democrats manage to hold on to all of their voters they can say I was wrong

But if they don't - which they won't - then we'll know I am right
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

You keep focusing your ire on one state - California - and I keep telling you they are not to blame.

Voter fraud is a problem in this country, you know it but won't admit it. There is no voter fraud in states with Voter ID laws. people who have a legal driver's license in California are registered to vote there. how many did?
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

As I suspected - even you cannot find out what your point was when you complain about me not getting it. perfect.

liying again are we? Well here let me help you. This is what I said...

You might want to stop with the lying...

As you well know my point had nothing at all to do with illegal aliens. It was the FACT you pointed out he had no evidence, just like you in our debate.

Thanks for playing oh master of the straw man.

No amount of twisting, manipulation or weasel words on your part will change this.
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

Though we know Rush told you to say that, if you actually knew what a community organizer was (if you actually researched what you were being told), you won't let yourself be manipulated so readily. You would realize that a community organizer is democracy at its core: it is empowering the disenfranchised through their voice and vote.

| National Review

Now, we won't bother to review the fact that Obama was a Constitutional scholar, who taught the Constitution at one of America's top five law schools (you have to know your sh to get that gig) and spent more than a decade as an elected legislator. No, you would rather focus on something that Sean or Rush have told you to belittle... and, in doing so, are laughing at your ignorance.

May I point out that Obama only did community organization for three years. I waited tables for four years during college. No one defines me as a waiter. Your hero, Rush, was a disc jockey. No one disqualifies him for that.... and, similar to Obama, Rush's experience set him up the success he enjoys today.

So, get over your bad self and approach that debate as an adult. No one like people that name call or be-little.

Boy, you sure have a fixation with Rush Limbaugh, don't you? I really don't get to listen to him much, so I'll have to take your word for it that Rush said for me to say that stuff, LOL!

Even if Obama, what was he, an adjunct professor at the U of Chicago? Basically there to put it on his resume. Not anything near a top professor. And really, I judge him by what he does, not by what he says. And that shows that he doesn't care for our Constitution very much.
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

So nothing that happens in a campaign impacts peoples votes?

Of course it does. EVERYTHING that happens in campaigns impacts people's votes. That doesn't mean their votes are invalid.
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

Bwahahahahahhahahaha! You mean this parroting of no evidence?



I'd say my post here...

Still got no evidence? LMAO! Not even one shred? Here is why...

There’s a lot of evidence from the attack on the table, mostly detailing how the hack was perpetrated, and possibly the language of the perpetrators. It certainly remains plausible that Russians hacked the DNC, and remains possible that Russia itself ordered it. But the refrain of Russian attribution has been repeated so regularly and so emphatically that it’s become easy to forget that no one has ever truly proven the claim. There is strong evidence indicating that Democratic email accounts were breached via phishing messages, and that specific malware was spread across DNC computers. There’s even evidence that the attackers are the same group that’s been spotted attacking other targets in the past. But again: No one has actually proven that group is the Russian government (or works for it). This remains the enormous inductive leap that’s not been reckoned with, and Americans deserve better. - https://theintercept.com/2016/12/14/heres-the-public-evidence-russia-hacked-the-dnc-its-not-enough/

Mr. King, a New York Republican who sits on the House intelligence committee, said the intelligence community has not been presented with any evidence to support the claim. - Peter King: CIA doing 'hit job' against Donald Trump; 'no evidence' Russia behind Podesta hack - Washington Times

The revelations that Russia actively sought to influence the American election and help Donald Trump become the next president are shocking, mind-blowing and downright scary. But here is something they are not: evidence that the Russians hacked voting machines or changed the Election Day count. Unsubstantiated assertions that Russia actually manipulated the vote tally are themselves dangerous. - Russia's role is shocking but there's no evidence the vote was hacked - CNN.com

Only a few days ago the New York Times acknowledged that the CIA finding that the Kremlin hacked the Democratic National Convention’s computers with the intention of influencing the US presidential election was based, not on evidence, but conjecture. Today, the newspaper’s reporters have forgotten their earlier caveats and have begun to treat the intelligence agency’s guess-work as an established truth. - How an Evidence-Free CIA Finding Alleging Russian Interference in the US Election was Turned into an Indisputable ?Truth? | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

Now do you have evidence that no one else has? Or are you going to continue the run in the hamster wheel, lol.

Directly refutes your cop out sentence. :lamo

To sum up, it is possible the Russians hacked the DNC emails and revealed the ugly truck about what Hillary and friends really look like

But no real evidence that it was the Russians

Only rumor and suspicion

But if libs believe that story it is even more probable that the Russians hacker Hillary's private email server

In which case bill Clinton's costtails should go to jail
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

So in other words...

you still cannot see your own point and identify it.
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

Bwahahahahahhahahaha! You mean this parroting of no evidence?

Its all there for you in post 415.
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

The only way to find out is to reform the voting laws to prevent the possibility of fraud

Then if democrats manage to hold on to all of their voters they can say I was wrong

But if they don't - which they won't - then we'll know I am right

Actually the way to find out is to investigate and produce evidence that a crime was committed. Only then after we see there is a need for new legislation, should that be considered.
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

Voter fraud is a problem in this country, you know it but won't admit it. There is no voter fraud in states with Voter ID laws. people who have a legal driver's license in California are registered to vote there. how many did?

But yet you can produce no evidence of such a claim of voter fraud being any significant problem.
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

No amount of twisting, manipulation or weasel words on your part will change this.

No amount of your personal insults direct at me can produce a point from you that you did not have in the first place.
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

Actually the way to find out is to investigate and produce evidence that a crime was committed. Only then after we see there is a need for new legislation, should that be considered.

Well it's nice to see you admit that you need actual evidence not just conjecture. Oh wait?
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

Of course it does. EVERYTHING that happens in campaigns impacts people's votes. That doesn't mean their votes are invalid.

Glad we agree on that.
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

Well it's nice to see you admit that you need actual evidence not just conjecture. Oh wait?

You really are confused. You lost track of what was being discussed. You may want to go back and catch up.
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

No amount of your personal insults direct at me can produce a point from you that you did not have in the first place.

I am glad to see you still ignore a point and then accuse me of not having one. Thanks bro!
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

Glad we agree on that.

Okay great --- so you can stop saying that Trump is an illegitimate President.
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

Okay great --- so you can stop saying that Trump is an illegitimate President.

Why would I or anyone do that when he clearly is?
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

You really are confused. You lost track of what was being discussed. You may want to go back and catch up.

I know exactly what is being discussed. You are trying to ignore the FACT you are demanding evidence from someone else's while trying to cop out of presenting any to back up your own point. I know exactly what I am saying.

So again no amount of twisting, manipulation or weasel words will change this.
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

I am glad to see you still ignore a point and then accuse me of not having one. Thanks bro!

And what do you believe your 'point' was what exactly?
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

I know exactly what is being discussed. You are trying to ignore the FACT you are demanding evidence from someone else's while trying to cop out of presenting any to back up your own point. I know exactly what I am saying.

So again no amount of twisting, manipulation or weasel words will change this.

But you were presented with evidence. You simply refuse to accept it. That is on you - not upon me.
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

Why would I or anyone do that when he clearly is?

"Clearly" is inoperative in this case due to the electoral college...
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

Why would I or anyone do that when he clearly is?

*facepalm*

You JUST agreed with me that no one's votes were invalid. How does that translate into their votes being invalid and Trump really didn't win??
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

the many reasons I listed makes him unqualified.

Actually, it really doesn't, as far as the EC is concerned. There would have to be some kind of blockbuster information that nobody knew before for the EC to act to stop him. Your rant doesn't qualify. Obviously, the same could be said of Hillary. So no, nothing that the EC would ever react to.
 
Re: A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinto

"Clearly" is inoperative in this case due to the electoral college...

The EC renders him legal. There is a difference in legal according to lawful procedures and being legitimate in the eyes of the citizenry.
 
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