A Good Jobs Report, Not Yet a Full Recovery

[a351]

Every POTUS takes full responsibility along with the oath on 20 January.

:roll: They take the office and the reigns of the country. That does not mean that circumstances that quite obviously predated their term will be laid at their feet by those who actually study this stuff. If we went by start and end dates alone we wouldn't need historians or much of anything to determine who was a successful executive.

 

[Jack Hays]

That is the most ridiculous and intellectually dishonest statement I have read in quite a while. Congrats!

:roll: They take the office and the reigns of the country. That does not mean that circumstances that quite obviously predated their term will be laid at their feet by those who actually study this stuff. If we went by start and end dates alone we wouldn't need historians or much of anything to determine who was a successful executive.

I don't give GWB a pass for the overlap effects of the late-Clinton recession either.

 

[SlevinKelevra]

That is the most ridiculous and intellectually dishonest statement I have read in quite a while. Congrats!

even if you ignore THAT part of it, it's factually incorrect on the claim that every president takes the oath that day.

 

[a351]

I don't give GWB a pass for the overlap effects of the late-Clinton recession either.

You're wrong in both circumstances then :shrug:

 

[SlevinKelevra]

I don't give GWB a pass for the overlap effects of the late-Clinton recession either.

then why do you call it the late-clinton recession?

 

[Jack Hays]

then why do you call it the late-clinton recession?

To mark it in time. Just as BHO had to deal with the late-GWB recession.

 

[ToastyOats]

With all respect, you're doing an absolutely amazing job of cherry-picking.

You don't remember the state of the economy Mr. Bush left us in, in 2008?

You seriously want to claim you don't remember an economic collapse?

Well it's an average. Sure the forest burned down, but before that it was pretty nice.

So average overall.

 

[SlevinKelevra]

To mark it in time. Just as BHO had to deal with the late-GWB recession.

so if a vandal slashes your tire, and the repair shop says that model is discontinued, you would call it "the vandal incident" but fault the repair shop anyways.

An odd mental position to take....

 

[Linc]

To mark it in time. Just as BHO had to deal with the late-GWB recession.

I'm sure BHO would have loved that surplus Clinton handed off to GWB.
Minus the two ongoing wars as well.
Not to mention the decrease in government revenues due to that 4.4 million job loss at the end of GWB .

 

[Chomsky]

Well it's an average. Sure the forest burned down, but before that it was pretty nice.

So average overall.

Yeah, and on-average that maiden voyage of the Titanic went peachy-swell - until the end!

Let's do it again!

And let's do 2008 again, too!

:mrgreen:

 

[Linc]

Averages are meaningless in the case where BHO was stuck with the top-end unemployment figure of 10.4% from GWB.
Bush averages were a gift from Clinton .

Well it's an average. Sure the forest burned down, but before that it was pretty nice.

So average overall.

 

[Chomsky]

Averages are meaningless in the case where BHO was stuck with the top-end unemployment figure of 10.4% from GWB.
Bush averages were a gift from Clinton .

And we went from President Clinton's leaving President Bush a budget surplus, to President Bush's leaving President Obama a deficit.

(though I wish we'd raise corporate & very high earner taxes or close their loopholes enough to generate a little more income and start paying down the debt)

 

[Jack Hays]

so if a vandal slashes your tire, and the repair shop says that model is discontinued, you would call it "the vandal incident" but fault the repair shop anyways.

An odd mental position to take....

Non sequitur, but a good way for you to avoid the substance of the thread.

 

[Jack Hays]

I'm sure BHO would have loved that surplus Clinton handed off to GWB.
Minus the two ongoing wars as well.
Not to mention the decrease in government revenues due to that 4.4 million job loss at the end of GWB .

FDR inherited worse and did better.

 

[SlevinKelevra]

Non sequitur, but a good way for you to avoid the substance of the thread.

Says the guy avoiding answering a question about the graph he chose to put in his OP.

 

[SlevinKelevra]

FDR inherited worse and did better.

Obama needs 2 more terms to make that comparison.

 

[Hari Seldon]

I don't give GWB a pass for the overlap effects of the late-Clinton recession either.

That only reenforces my previous post.

 

[Jack Hays]

Says the guy avoiding answering a question about the graph he chose to put in his OP.

I didn't choose the graph. It was part of the linked headline.

 

[Jack Hays]

Obama needs 2 more terms to make that comparison.

He's behind.

 

[SlevinKelevra]

I didn't choose the graph. It was part of the linked headline.

LMAO.
Wow. no.

 

[Hari Seldon]

then why do you call it the late-clinton recession?

Good point!

 

[SlevinKelevra]

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you CHOSE to write that. The source article doesn't contain any forum tags
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[Jack Hays]

you CHOSE to write that. The source article doesn't contain any forum tags
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As posted here is exactly as it was at 538.

 

[SlevinKelevra]

As posted here is exactly as it was at 538.

quote me the 5 lines above and below it, from THEIR source code

 

[Jack Hays]

quote me the 5 lines above and below it, from THEIR source code

I don't have slightest idea what you're talking about.