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A Friend Of Yours "Comes Out" As An Atheist

No surprise that you prefer the hypocritical type...like beliefs attract each other , unlike beliefs repel each other...
I consider them less hypocritical than you and EMN because they're adapting their beliefs to the current environment based on certain realities, you're trying to adapt the environment to your beliefs, in contradiction to reality. One of those will survive.
 
I consider them less hypocritical than you and EMN because they're adapting their beliefs to the current environment based on certain realities, you're trying to adapt the environment to your beliefs, in contradiction to reality. One of those will survive.
lol...God does not change nor do His moral standards...He does not overlook sin, no matter how much a person declares it is not sin...

"For if we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left," Hebrews 10:26

Isaiah also spoke of such ones who make up their own rules, rather than look to God's Word for guidance...

"Woe to those who say that good is bad and bad is good,
Those who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness,
Those who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!
Woe to those wise in their own eyes
And discreet in their own sight!" Isaiah 5:20,21
 
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lol...God does not change nor do His standards...He does not overlook sin, no matter how much a person declares it is not sin...

"For if we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left," Hebrews 10:26

Isaiah also spoke of such ones who make up their own rules, rather than look to God's Word for guidance...

"Woe to those who say that good is bad and bad is good,
Those who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness,
Those who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!
Woe to those wise in their own eyes
And discreet in their own sight!" Isaiah 5:20,21

God was once pleased by the aroma of burnt offerings. Is he still pleased by them? Or did he change?
 
You guys sort it out then before having the temerity to order everyone else around because of your religion with no true adherents,
I didn’t order anyone around. You are making the claim there must be no true adherents or everyone who claims to be an adherent must be one. This is a juvenile way of thinking.
because all of you claim mutual exclusivity to the truth, and use the same non verifiable source.
there is no claim. There is right and wrong,
You two are indistinguishable. Lursa is the truest Christian in my mind of you three, she uses it to make herself a better person, not to try to boss other people around by telling them how to be better.
she is not a Christian. She openly rejects multiple doctrines of Christianity and is contemptuous of virtually all of the theological thought behind the Christian religion.
I know Elvira, you're not as bad as EMN in that regard. Spare me the bible quotes.
she’s not a Christian. She is openly part of a church that rejects Christ, where the whole “Christian” thing comes from.
 
JW are not Christians as they reject Christ’s divinity as fully god. Therefore they cannot be Christians. They falsely claim to be.
Ok, I’ve got to ask.

Who raised Jesus from the dead if Jesus is God?
 
God. Easy enough answer.
Then Jesus wasn’t really dead then. Death is the absence of life. If there’s even a spark of life in someone then you’re not dead. That’s easy enuf also :)
 
Ok, I’ve got to ask.

Who raised Jesus from the dead if Jesus is God?
And nowhere does the Bible say Jesus is equal to God, nowhere...trinitarians like to use the verse where Jesus says the Father and he are one, but if read in context, Jesus is referring to one in mind/thought/deed...not literally one...Jesus goes on to say all his followers will be one with God, as he is...meaning they will be in union with God and Jesus in mind/thought/deed...
 
And nowhere does the Bible say Jesus is equal to God, nowhere...trinitarians like to use the verse where Jesus says the Father and he are one, but if read in context, Jesus is referring to one in mind/thought/deed...not literally one...Jesus goes on to say all his followers will be one with God, as he is...meaning they will be in union with God and Jesus in mind/thought/deed...
Yes, I’m familiar with that interpretation. It makes more sense to me.
 
Then Jesus wasn’t really dead then. Death is the absence of life. If there’s even a spark of life in someone then you’re not dead. That’s easy enuf also :)
The human nature was deceased
 
The human nature was deceased
No, I’m pretty sure the flesh was dead. If not then no one has been redeemed. By flesh and blood we had the perfect sacrifice. Jesus had to trust God would raise him. Doesn’t take much trust if you’re the one raising yourself.
 
Then Jesus wasn’t really dead then. Death is the absence of life. If there’s even a spark of life in someone then you’re not dead. That’s easy enuf also :)
If Jesus is God, his sacrifice would be meaningless...God is perfect, He cannot sin, so his remaining faithful til death would also be useless in buying back for mankind what the perfect man, Adam, lost...there would be no valid ransom sacrifice...
 
She is not a fundamentalist who parked her brain outside the door.
lol...neither we...we prefer to take the balanced, commonsense view, which is scriptural...the Bible has many direct, literal statements but much is symbolic or figurative....
 
lol...neither we...we prefer to take the balanced, commonsense view, which is scriptural...the Bible has many direct, literal statements but much is symbolic or figurative....

Nothing about religious belief is common sense. Or do you find all religious beliefs are common sense?
 
I can agree with much of that. Certainly, I see no harm in sex outside of marriage or birth control or gay marriage.

Knowing the overall Message from God, I know there's no way in Hell He'd ever condemn gays to a life of no love and commitment and intimacy.
He will however condemn unrepentant sodomy. Something you’d know if you read the Bible and didn’t consider yourself a higher authority.
 
He will however condemn unrepentant sodomy. Something you’d know if you read the Bible and didn’t consider yourself a higher authority.
How does that break God's Word of compassion, forgiveness, brotherly love, and peace? It's between 2 consenting adults and does no harm. It's your hang up, not theirs. (Your natural order crapola isnt in the Bible)

I do know what's in the Bible. I also know it was written by regular ol' men...some of which were likely homophobic. There are still plenty of homophobic men now...in the past it was even more common.

Like I wrote before, there's no way a loving God would ever condemn gay people to live lives bereft of love, intimacy, and family. And even the Pope agrees now...altho because this fake 'voice of God on Earth' invented by your cult says so, BUT it doesnt agree with your view...you disagreed with him. Kinda convenient that not only did your cult have to invent a pope, but then had to invent a workaround for when he disagreed with the cult overall. Ex-cathedra or whatever. The epitome of hypocrisy.
 
How does that break God's Word of compassion, forgiveness, brotherly love, and peace? It's between 2 consenting adults and does no harm. It's your hang up, not theirs. (Your natural order crapola isnt in the Bible)

I do know what's in the Bible. I also know it was written by regular ol' men...some of which were likely homophobic. There are still plenty of homophobic men now...in the past it was even more common.

Like I wrote before, there's no way a loving God would ever condemn gay people to live lives bereft of love, intimacy, and family. And even the Pope agrees now...altho because this fake 'voice of God on Earth' invented by your cult says so, BUT it doesnt agree with your view...you disagreed with him. Kinda convenient that not only did your cult have to invent a pope, but then had to invent a workaround for when he disagreed with the cult overall. Ex-cathedra or whatever. The epitome of hypocrisy.
So once again, you’re admitting you’re not a Christian. You recognize no authority other then you.
 
So once again, you’re admitting you’re not a Christian. You recognize no authority other then you.
Nope you continue to be wrong and you continue to be unable to refute my comments.

The hypocrisy of your cult is obvious and malicious. Just own it. Your own comments make no attempt to hide its coercive, repressive , punitive nature, designed only to produce more hands to put more $$ in their offering plates...while the upper echelon of the cult lives in luxury...silk sheets, fine wine and food, wearing silks and gold, it's disgusting.

Sell the assets of the Vatican and feed and provide medicines for MILLIONS of the pope's deluded followers. Show some compassion instead of control and greed.
 
Nope you continue to be wrong and you continue to be unable to refute my comments.

The hypocrisy of your cult is obvious and malicious. Just own it. Your own comments make no attempt to hide its coercive, repressive , punitive nature, designed only to produce more hands to put more $$ in their offering plates...while the upper echelon of the cult lives in luxury...silk sheets, fine wine and food, wearing silks and gold, it's disgusting.

Sell the assets of the Vatican and feed and provide medicines for MILLIONS of the pope's deluded followers. Show some compassion instead of control and greed.
I’m not going to put any effort to refuting anything. You have already stated you have invented your own religion with its own authority and you don’t recognize any scripture or theology that contradicts your liberal political positions. It is pointless to argue religion except to reassert you are not really a Christian by your own admissions.
 
I’m not going to put any effort

No effort in defining sodomy that’s for sure.

You made it quite a clear point in previous posts, yet refuse to define it.

Maybe I’ll make it easier for you. A simple yes or no answer type question.

Is oral sex “sodomy”?
 
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