LuddlyNeddite
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Here's what happens when you let random people carry guns:
1. There were over 400 murders in Chicago in 2014 by people who conceal carried. https://portal.chicagopolice.org/po...ws/Crime Statistics/Crime Statistics Year End
2. The results are even more pronounced in Washington DC. There are 44 murders by people with concealed handguns this year alone, and the year is not even halfway through. More importantly though, the passing of concealed carry caused a rise in crime, breaking a record of decreasing crime since 1995. http://mpdc.dc.gov/node/197622
3. Over 95 percent of the victims were racial minorities. That's bound to happen when you let a bunch of George Zimmerman's walk around packing heat. 2015 Stats | Chicago Murder, Crime & Mayhem | HeyJackass!
4. Compare this to New York City, which bans concealed carry, and has far lower crime: NYPD - Office of the Chief of Department
As a law enforcement officer, I can reassure you that the police officers which guard these two fine cities are NOT pleased at all with being forced to let random lunatics and gangbangers carry guns everywhere.
Concealed carry has made two relatively unsafe cities into nothing short of a war zone.
Here's what happens when you let random people carry guns:
1. There were over 400 murders in Chicago in 2014 by people who conceal carried. https://portal.chicagopolice.org/po...ws/Crime Statistics/Crime Statistics Year End
2. The results are even more pronounced in Washington DC. There are 44 murders by people with concealed handguns this year alone, and the year is not even halfway through. More importantly though, the passing of concealed carry caused a rise in crime, breaking a record of decreasing crime since 1995. http://mpdc.dc.gov/node/197622
3. Over 95 percent of the victims were racial minorities. That's bound to happen when you let a bunch of George Zimmerman's walk around packing heat. 2015 Stats | Chicago Murder, Crime & Mayhem | HeyJackass!
4. Compare this to New York City, which bans concealed carry, and has far lower crime: NYPD - Office of the Chief of Department
As a law enforcement officer, I can reassure you that the police officers which guard these two fine cities are NOT pleased at all with being forced to let random lunatics and gangbangers carry guns everywhere.
Concealed carry has made two relatively unsafe cities into nothing short of a war zone.
what a complete fail. you could actually get a permit to carry concealed in NYC-albeit hard to do
in Chicago and DC its almost impossible
Gosh, that was a smart reply. Asking the right questions!
How many of those deaths were from legal, licensed, law abiding citizens, "officer"?
How do you explain the already astronomical murder rates in those cities, "officer"?
How do you explain that the cities where gun control laws are the most strict have the highest murder rates, "officer"?
How do you explain the contradictory data (shocking as it may be that heyjackass.com might be wrong) from vastly more areas of the nation, "officer"?
Chicago is actually "shall issue." And too bad, since they were forced to issue ccw permits to 400 murderers
1. These people were all law abiding until they pulled the trigger. Concealed carry is legal in those two cities.
2.The crime rates in DC rose after ccw passed. CCW increases crime, period.
how can someone with a murder record get a CCW permit let alone own a handgun legally
so you are not being truthful nor are you a libertarian at all
Complete BS.Here's what happens when you let random people carry guns:
1. There were over 400 murders in Chicago in 2014 by people who conceal carried. https://portal.chicagopolice.org/po...ws/Crime Statistics/Crime Statistics Year End
2. The results are even more pronounced in Washington DC. There are 44 murders by people with concealed handguns this year alone, and the year is not even halfway through. More importantly though, the passing of concealed carry caused a rise in crime, breaking a record of decreasing crime since 1995. http://mpdc.dc.gov/node/197622
3. Over 95 percent of the victims were racial minorities. That's bound to happen when you let a bunch of George Zimmerman's walk around packing heat. 2015 Stats | Chicago Murder, Crime & Mayhem | HeyJackass!
4. Compare this to New York City, which bans concealed carry, and has far lower crime: NYPD - Office of the Chief of Department
As a law enforcement officer, I can reassure you that the police officers which guard these two fine cities are NOT pleased at all with being forced to let random lunatics and gangbangers carry guns everywhere.
Concealed carry has made two relatively unsafe cities into nothing short of a war zone.
1. These people were all law abiding until they pulled the trigger. Concealed carry is legal in those two cities.
2.The crime rates in DC rose after ccw passed. CCW increases crime, period.
They were forced to issue the ccw permit, and THEN they killed somebody, using their newfound ability to carry a gun anywhere.
1. These people were all law abiding until they pulled the trigger. Concealed carry is legal in those two cities.
2.The crime rates in DC rose after ccw passed. CCW increases crime, period.
Are you sure you can read? Because that is not what that stat sheet says. I think you are confusing with "legal" licensed concealed carry with criminal carry.Here's what happens when you let random people carry guns:
1. There were over 400 murders in Chicago in 2014 by people who conceal carried. https://portal.chicagopolice.org/po...ws/Crime Statistics/Crime Statistics Year End
Complete BS.
They were forced to issue the ccw permit, and THEN they killed somebody, using their newfound ability to carry a gun anywhere.
Hence my quote. His figures are not where near correct for "legal permitted concealed carry of hand guns".NYC has had CCW licenses for decades-true you had to be rich or well connected to have one
I know, I had a NY state permit. it was a bit easier to get than the NYC one
DC was sued for not allowing said permits after HELLER struck down the complete ban
gun crime has been decreasing nationally while CCW permits are more and more common nationally
Hence my quote. His figures are not where near correct for "legal permitted concealed carry of hand guns".
Facts are hard things to deal with if they aren't on your side, I see
Facts are hard things to deal with if they aren't on your side, I see
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