A Democratic Governor has to actually ask the media to report things (that are currently happening) truthfully and to not be scared

[RetiredAtLast]

You've been tricked into being afraid of high crime rates when crime peaked in the 90s.

So if more people were murdered in some other time it's OK if not quite as many are murdered today. There's something wrong with that logic, not to mention the compassion.

 

[Bergslagstroll]

Democrats oppose the use of National Guard troops in crime blighted areas that the Democrat leadership refuses to address. They do so because, ostensibly, the impact of law enforcement would be felt mostly by Black constituents. What's truly ironic about that stance is that in those areas it's primarily blacks that are most impacted by the crime. In effect, the Democrats are endorsing continuing violence and other criminal acts against blacks as long as the violent criminals are also black.

Democrats are willing to implement policies that both reduce crime and create a greater quality of life and strengthen local communities. There Republican governors have had many years ordering National guards into cities and Republican run cities asking for the National guard. While this is have not happen even with Republicans now believing it is such great idea. Instead it's now the Republican president that are sending National guards into Democrat cities that seen reduce crime over the years and doesn't have the top spot.

Zohran Mamdani Is Right on Public Safety

In last night’s New York City mayoral debate, socialist candidate Zohran Mamdani warded off attacks about “defunding the police” by articulating a principled and compelling message on public safety.

jacobin.com

 

[CaughtInThe]

 

[CaughtInThe]

 

[Plasmaball]

Democrats oppose the use of National Guard troops in crime blighted areas that the Democrat leadership refuses to address. They do so because, ostensibly, the impact of law enforcement would be felt mostly by Black constituents. What's truly ironic about that stance is that in those areas it's primarily blacks that are most impacted by the crime. In effect, the Democrats are endorsing continuing violence and other criminal acts against blacks as long as the violent criminals are also black.

We've been addressing it for a long time, ut the issue is deeper than sending in troops.
The gop has done jack shit to help out as well. They just use cities as a punching bag like you are doing now.

You dont want to solve the problem. You want to grind your beliefs into liberals and laugh while doing it.

How do you stop it without looking like an authoritarian asshole who wants to squash people's rights?

Go on Luther amaze us with your knowledge on how to combat crime...

You know in-between defending cops shooting black people and making excuses for people beating cops with flag poles and hammers.

 

[Plasmaball]

Keep saying this but with each passing day the MAGAs become more and more like Trump.

It's just like in sports when the players take on the personality of the coach.

So think of the MAGA base as just a bunch of mini Trumps.

Nope.. you should know better cit from hannity. They have always been like this

 

[CaughtInThe]

Nope.. you should know better cit from hannity. They have always been like this

Well, that's true.

But they're doing things now (openly) that they were afraid to do (openly) decades ago. And many of those things/words come right out of Trump's mouth or are his actions.

It's a much (openly) meaner Republican party now.

 

[Plasmaball]

Well, that's true.

But they're doing things now (openly) that they were afraid to do (openly) decades ago. And many of those things/words come right out of Trump's mouth or are his actions.

It's a much (openly) meaner Republican party now.

The fringe took over.

 

[CaughtInThe]

The fringe took over.

Which was always there but just got more and more crazy and women/minorities because their bosses/etc.

 

[Plasmaball]

Which was always there but just got more and more crazy and women/minorities because their bosses/etc.

What?

 

[CaughtInThe]

What?

They were always mean and crazy but are more so now because they continue to slide down our society's totem pole (with women and minorities moving up, passing them and pissing them off).

The easiest example is sports. Female CEOs/managers are also a good example.

The white, male Republicans (average Joes) feel neutered and helpless now more than ever.

 

[Plasmaball]

They were always mean and crazy but are more so now because they continue to slide down our society's totem pole (with women and minorities moving up, passing them and pissing them off).

The easiest example is sports. Female CEOs/managers are also a good example.

The white, male Republicans (average Joes) feel neutered and helpless now more than ever.

Thats always been a thing.
We did this to everyone over the centuries.

 

[eohrnberger]

Which violent MAGA controlled cities?

Hmm. I think the poster has a binary party line, where non-Democrat = MAGA, or something equally stupid, binary and tribal.

 

[eohrnberger]

Democrats are willing to implement policies that both reduce crime and create a greater quality of life and strengthen local communities.

Do you really believe that 'reduce crime and create a greater quality of life and strengthen local communities' is going to be the results of 'No Cash Bail' and progressive prosecutors who don't prosecute criminals, releasing those criminals to recommit crimes in the same local communities?

I think those Dem, Lib, and Prog public policy prescriptions are antithetical to 'reduce crime and create a greater quality of life and strengthen local communities'', but rather that 'broken windows policing' public policies would bring those results.

There Republican governors have had many years ordering National guards into cities and Republican run cities asking for the National guard. While this is have not happen even with Republicans now believing it is such great idea. Instead it's now the Republican president that are sending National guards into Democrat cities that seen reduce crime over the years and doesn't have the top spot.

Zohran Mamdani Is Right on Public Safety

In last night’s New York City mayoral debate, socialist candidate Zohran Mamdani warded off attacks about “defunding the police” by articulating a principled and compelling message on public safety.

jacobin.com

 

[Lutherf]

Hmm. I think the poster has a binary party line, where non-Democrat = MAGA, or something equally stupid, binary and tribal.

I took a look at the cities with the highest homicide rates in the US (Wikipedia). Of the top 20 the only ones with Republican leadership are Shreveport, LA and Lancaster, CA at numbers 9 and 20 respectively.

 

[eohrnberger]

I took a look at the cities with the highest homicide rates in the US (Wikipedia). Of the top 20 the only ones with Republican leadership are Shreveport, LA and Lancaster, CA at numbers 9 and 20 respectively.

This goes right back to my post #39, and supports my general position that Dems, Lib, and Prog's public policy prescriptions don't ever get the results which they claim they do, which they think they do, nor are the results which the electorate deserve and should expect, yet the Dems, Lib, and Progs keep pushing those same failed public policy prescriptions.

This constant repeating of theirs is an example of 'The Definition Of Insanity' (doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results).

 

[SCrider]

Democrats oppose the use of National Guard troops in crime blighted areas that the Democrat leadership refuses to address. They do so because, ostensibly, the impact of law enforcement would be felt mostly by Black constituents. What's truly ironic about that stance is that in those areas it's primarily blacks that are most impacted by the crime. In effect, the Democrats are endorsing continuing violence and other criminal acts against blacks as long as the violent criminals are also black.

Bullshit. When this all comes crashing down you will be one of those on the wrong side of history.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Which violent MAGA controlled cities?

Crime has generally been going down, except for COVID affects, and given that trend, there is no need for the national guard. Let what's working continue to work.

 

[Lutherf]

Democrats are willing to implement policies that both reduce crime and create a greater quality of life and strengthen local communities. There Republican governors have had many years ordering National guards into cities and Republican run cities asking for the National guard. While this is have not happen even with Republicans now believing it is such great idea. Instead it's now the Republican president that are sending National guards into Democrat cities that seen reduce crime over the years and doesn't have the top spot.

Zohran Mamdani Is Right on Public Safety

In last night’s New York City mayoral debate, socialist candidate Zohran Mamdani warded off attacks about “defunding the police” by articulating a principled and compelling message on public safety.

jacobin.com

Scott's plan is showing signs of success and he should be commended for that. The plan, however, isn't all carrot and no stick. He's imposed curfews and targeted specific problem groups. The concept of "community policing" isn't new but it has to be implemented with REAL intent and commitment, not just a nod to the term and then little to no enforcement. The idea is to set expectations for the community and then require accountability on all sides of the crime issue. That includes accountability for police, prosecutors, social workers, schools AND the community in general.

Here in AZ we see the difference between effective community policing and fake community policing. In both the Phoenix and Tucson metropolitan areas we see significantly higher rates of crime and violence in the areas where city management tends to look at the criminals themselves as victims and therefore demands no accountability from them.

 

[CaughtInThe]

There were never any small government republicans. That was just a lie that Rush Limbaugh started.

And now they're pantsing themselves.

 

[CaughtInThe]

 

[CaughtInThe]

 

[Gimmesometruth]

So if more people were murdered in some other time it's OK if not quite as many are murdered today. There's something wrong with that logic, not to mention the compassion.

There is something wrong with your twisting of the argument, the argument you have created is the absolute ending of crime, and you have already expressed the desire for Donny to be an authoritarian, this is just you attempting to justify police state tactics to counter any level of crime in a free society.

The cost of the troops in DC is greater than the cost of housing the homeless in DC.

 

[RetiredAtLast]

There is something wrong with your twisting of the argument, the argument you have created is the absolute ending of crime,

Nonsense. As long as society is made up of people, there will be crime.

and you have already expressed the desire for Donny to be an authoritarian

I don't think so. I have questioned the left's use of the word, "authoritarian," since I think most of the people on the left who use it in the context of the current Administration, don't know what it means.

this is just you attempting to justify police state tactics to counter any level of crime in a free society.

Nope. I don't want "police state tactics" any more than most people do. But I can understand the need for the federal government to provide crime prevention help when cities take actions that increase the risk of crime and either refuse to, or show they cannot, do so themselves.

 

[RetiredAtLast]

The cost of the troops in DC is greater than the cost of housing the homeless in DC.

If you're referring to the National Guard troops being used to assist the D.C. authorities, the cost is the fault of the D.C. governing body.