A Definition of Fascism

[Alfons]

So the question is, is this a good definition of fascism?

Your definition is good, but my it better, because we face today only one kind of really fascism, Islamic.

...the activities and agendas of organizations that embrace the jihadist goals of Islamo-fascism, including the implementation of Sharia (Islamic Law) in the U.S. and other non-Muslim countries; the establishment of Islam as the supreme faith worldwide; the reestablishment of an Islamic caliphate; and the destruction of Israel;

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[The Mark]

Your definition is good, but my it better, because we face today only one kind of really fascism, Islamic.


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Not the topic of this thread.

 

[MSgt]

Mao was not a dictator though he did have fascist tendencies....

C'mon. Let's not argue over symantecs. The man created his position and held it from 1949 to 1976 when he died. That's less than 30 years. His reforms consisted of cleansing rival politicial parties and citizens that did not fit his program. The man was a dictator. Paint a smile on him all you want, but fascism and dictatorship comes from both sides. The last century proved it.

That is an oversimplification of the situation.

Well why would you think the leftists refuse Stalin's and Mao's politiical position in the world? The Left is supposed to be about love, harmony, equality, and utopia is it not? And when it goes horribly wrong? When the communist or socialist vision of utopoia kills hundreds of millions of people it must be cast off to the right? If the right refused to "own" Hitler, would we argue over what is and is not being simplified?

 

[Demon of Light]

C'mon. Let's not argue over symantecs. The man created his position and held it from 1949 to 1976 when he died. That's less than 30 years. His reforms consisted of cleansing rival politicial parties and citizens that did not fit his program. The man was a dictator. Paint a smile on him all you want, but fascism and dictatorship comes from both sides. The last century proved it.

You obviously do not now much about Chinese history, which isn't too surprising. Mao was stripped of positions and his ideology removed from the constitution of the CCP. That development is what was partly responsible for kicking off the Cultural Revolution, which was as much an attempt at radical reform as it was anything else. Also, far from being a purge the Cultural Revolution was essentially a power struggle that evolved into a near civil war and ultimately Mao failed in his every effort. Men like Zhou Enlai held him back and he didn't have the influence to get rid of them. He was not a dictator by any stretch.

Well why would you think the leftists refuse Stalin's and Mao's politiical position in the world? The Left is supposed to be about love, harmony, equality, and utopia is it not? And when it goes horribly wrong? When the communist or socialist vision of utopoia kills hundreds of millions of people it must be cast off to the right?

I was saying the talk of socialism killing hundreds of millions is oversimplification. Stalin targeted leftists (ever hear of Leon Trotsky?) just as much as he targeted rightists. I for one think there is evidence the Holodomor was a genocide and from my perspective that had nothing to do with leftism, but was merely the elite seeking to quell a national group for fear it would resist them. The famine under Mao was aggravated by a number of things that had no connection to socialism like the Four Pests campaign that upset the food chain thus increasing the locust population and natural disasters like the flooding of the Yellow River.

If the right refused to "own" Hitler, would we argue over what is and is not being simplified?

Yes, indeed we would. The word Socialism was in the party's name for a reason.