Every group of people is a social construct deisgned to organize people according to a common trait, and distinguish them from others that do not share that trait.
Gender is nothing more than a social construct designed to organize people into groups whose molecules are organized in such a way that they form similar shapes and functions.
Race just organizes people based on a different set of molecules.
So, race exists just as much as gender does.
I can point to the chromosome that controls gender, you cant point to the one that controls race.
I can point to the chromosome that controls gender, you cant point to the one that controls race.
Those X and Y chromozomes you want to point to? Yeah, those are social constructs too. They are nothing but protons neutrons and electrons in pretty kalidoscope patterns which we have applied a particular significance to and lumped in with a bunch of other patterns of protons neutrons and electrons that share similar traits.
Try again?
Your going to far, define race for me, if you can possibly find a way, and we'll take it from there.
race2
• noun 1 each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics. 2 racial origin or distinction: rights based on race. 3 a group of people sharing the same culture, language, etc.; an ethnic group. 4 a group of people or things with a common feature. 5 Biology a distinct population within a species; a subspecies.
— USAGE Some people now feel that the word race should be avoided, because of its associations with the now discredited theories of 19th-century anthropologists and physiologists about supposed racial superiority. Terms such as people, community, or ethnic group are less emotionally charged.
— ORIGIN French, from Italian razza.
4 a group of people or things with a common feature.
1 each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics.
From my favorite dictionary:
AskOxford: race<sup>2</sup>
I am kinda partial to this one:
But most people don't like to aknowledge Vivaldi fans as a separate race, simply because we are so damn superior.
I have been using the term in the following way for the purposes of our discussion, only because I felt that it was the most applicable to the meaning as intended by your original post.
Now problems arise how do you define that, is it just by skin color? Is Jason Kidd Black? Is Obama black? Was Homer Plessy Black? Tell me how it's defined when you reach that point.
No, not just by skin colour. Facial features, voice, hair texture, who knows what else? Why does it matter? You can ask the NAACP. They are the ones who wouldn't give me a scholorship.
I have already agreed that it is a social construct. I just don't see why being a social construct should mean it doesn't exist. Every other catagorization in the world is also a socail construct. Thats how catagroizations come to be. Society takes little kalidescope patterns of protons neutrons and electrons and looks for a common trait. Then all the protons neutrons and electrons with that trait are put in the appropriate catagory.
Race is nothing more than a social construct, but if you think race more than that then prove it.
If you can give me scientific backing showing that white people are just smarter and it is not due to other factors then you can say so but until then you can't.
I was answering why Asians have a longer life expectancy. The answer to your question, lack of access to quality health care.
That was to show that blacks are imprisoned more than whites (because last time i argued this someone denied it as being true)
Because blacks have less access to prenatal, as with all healthcare.
I understand how it works, i was just assuming you know the answer. As i said underfunding of black schools and alienation of black students by teachers.
Why are they more likely to attack another black or Latino over a white? That is somewhat due to internalized racism and somewhat due to racism in the justice system.
The sources of these disparities are complex, are rooted in historic and contemporary inequities, and involve many participants at several levels, including health systems, their administrative and bureaucratic processes, utilization managers, healthcare professionals, and patients.
I don't have a link to show black schools are underfunded, but at least where I live schools are funded by property taxes, poorer areas have lower property values, which means less funding.
Can you even disprove the stereotype threat before you say it is a load of crap? Wasn't what i was getting at, said exactly what i meant. Teachers seem to be alienating black students, unless there is some other reason black students feel this way.
That was for if you questioned the fact that the overwhelming majority of teachers are white.
Since i assume you were being sarcastic with that explanation, black women are undereducated and that can be seen as a flaw in the school system.
Maybe i recalled wrong, didn't Stringer say that blacks are less likely to be hired because AA causes employers to think they only achieved the qualifications because of AA. But i am looking for a fight.
Few people have any trouble telling that Victor Varnado is black even though he is an albino.
If you take those images you posted and invert the colours, do those people look caucasian?
Have you ever seen paintings by Andy Warhol? Is it hard to tell the ethnicity of the red girl wih the huge lips and the giant afro?
Its not just skin color. I think a lot of people from India have pretty similar skin color to people from Africa, but they look like Indian people, where as African people look like African people.
My best friend is from China, and our skin colour is almost identical. His face looks really really Chinese though, and mine looks really really not.
But just for the sake of argument, lets say you're right. Race doesn't exist.
What do you propose should be done?
You don't have to know him.
A better question would be: Would things have been worse for him if he weren't white?
The answer is yes.
However bad things have been for him, they would've been worse if he were black.
That is the insidious nature of white privilege.
The day a white person can prove to me that, however bad their life is, it wouldn't have been even worse had they been black... is the day I'll consider revising my opinion.
No you are incorrect and your heading down a slippery slope. You can not claim one group to be genetically different enough to assert that because humans have not evolved into subspecies, so African or Asian or European, there is not enough variation to assert your claim, there is more variation within one "race" than there is between "races".
Now to see how little skill color biologicly matter:
In fact, several scientists said, the new work shows just how small a biological difference is reflected by skin color. The newly found mutation involves a change of just one letter of DNA code out of the 3.1 billion letters in the human genome -- the complete instructions for making a human being.
Scientists Find A DNA Change That Accounts For White Skin
It exists as a social construct, nothing more than that which is why you can't say black people score lower on standardized testing because of genetics.
But what happens when you half-black people, or quarter, how do you define it then.
Is Derek Jeter black? Is Obama? Was homer plessy?
Well the fact is that we live in a society that recognizes race and has a history of oppressing certain races. I don't know what you mean by "what should be done?" but if you talk about ending racism then i suggest wide-spread education of the idea of race as a social consruct would be a step in the right direction.
But what happens when you half-black people, or quarter, how do you define it then.
Is Derek Jeter black?
Apparently. It seems to be one of the building blocks of his campaign. Would his political career have benefitted from white priviledge had he been white?Is Obama?
Was homer plessy?
Well the fact is that we live in a society that recognizes race and has a history of oppressing certain races.
I don't know what you mean by "what should be done?" but if you talk about ending racism then i suggest wide-spread education of the idea of race as a social consruct would be a step in the right direction.
I think people should be called whatever the hell they want to be and be treated the same regardless. It's the left that's arguing for increased classification and different treatment based on race.
I will get to the intelligence and white privlege later
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