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A big shift in views of the U.S. president

itstony said:
Most redneck trump licking, cultist, head in the sand, insurrection justifying, big lie believing republicans can't, I get that. I'm a never Trump republican who has voted red since my first vote for Reagan, until Trump came a long. Not pertaining to your viewpoint mind you, just responding.
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At least you're not a complete disappointment. Just misguided.
 
Mycroft said:
yawn...

Biden get zero credit. He just managed to not screw up the federal covid response that Trump put into place.

And Trump didn't do any of those things you blame him for...the Governors did it all.

But hey...let's revise history, eh?
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Fact, Trump, personally, did much more to hurt Americans than to help.

He lied from Day 1, spread disinformation, attacked officials doing their jobs, and held super spreader re-election rallies.

America would have been better served if Trump just STFU and played golf.
 
Da Mole said:
At least you're not a complete disappointment. Just misguided.
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Trump was a disaster as a president, those keeping emotion out of the situation could see that coming and steered clear in 2016 and 2020. What happened after the election made him a traitor, the insurrection he led was a direct attack on OUR democracy and his constant selling of the big lie is doing massive damage to our electoral process all because Trump didn't get his way and acted out like a child. Those two issues are his legacy and cement his place as a traitor to the republic in my opinion.
 
Mycroft said:
Why should anyone give a rat's ass about the opinion of some guy named Glenn Kirschner? Especially when it has nothing to do with what another member and I are saying to each other.
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Have you heard about the joke involving Michael Cohen and Donald J. Trump? Goes like this ----> Hey, Michael! What do you call your former client Donald J. Trump? Cohen responds: A Rat's Ass.----badump
 
noonereal said:
same

But I remain well aware of teh Trumpian problem. It seems it is worse than ever.
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Well, it's totally delusional, and lacking in reality. So yeah, it's dangerous.
 
Mycroft said:
Gas prices...up 56%...is one concern.
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It's the price you pay for a booming economy, risinng employment, and post pandemic economic resurgence. It's a small price to pay, consider the alternative we're emerging from . . .
 
Chomsky said:
Well, it's totally delusional, and lacking in reality. So yeah, it's dangerous.
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But do not be fooled, Trump is not delusional. His flock is because he is so good at manipulating them.
It is very dangerous.
 
itstony said:
Trump was a disaster as a president, those keeping emotion out of the situation could see that coming and steered clear in 2016 and 2020. What happened after the election made him a traitor, the insurrection he led was a direct attack on OUR democracy and his constant selling of the big lie is doing massive damage to our electoral process all because Trump didn't get his way and acted out like a child. Those two issues are his legacy and cement his place as a traitor to the republic in my opinion.
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Just keep drinking the cool aid and bending over for the left.
 
Da Mole said:
Ok, if you are right about the origins of inflation why didn't it happen while Trump was in office when the economy was in great shape without all the insane spending?
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The inflation today is being compared to the inflation of an improving economy in 2008. The prosperity in the Trump era was at the tail end of ten years of growth. The inflation had already occurred and prices had stabilized long before Trump entered office.

Put a different way, the economy was in great shape before Trump took office.
 
Mycroft said:
The most basic laws of economics, the ones that have stood the test of time over a millennium, have not been suspended. An explosive growth in debt financed largely by central banks is likely to lead to higher inflation.
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You are, of course, referring to the tremendous debt built up by the Trump administration without a war and without a recession.

Yeah, that, too.
 
Sandy Shanks said:
You are, of course, referring to the tremendous debt built up by the Trump administration without a war and without a recession.

Yeah, that, too.
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And yet, inflation didn't rise until Biden took the stage, put people out of work and told corporations to move out of the country.

In one month, we've had the largest monthly increase in inflation since 2008.
 
swing_voter said:
Inflation is going to come back eventually. It's like Spring or Winter, give it enough time and it just happens.

There's someone out there whose complaining that Big Mac used to cost a dollar.


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There will be short term inflation as there is a lag of workers to get products back on the shelves, thus causing higher demand than supply , but that will work itself out.
 
noonereal said:
But do not be fooled, Trump is not delusional. His flock is because he is so good at manipulating them.
It is very dangerous.
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I think the problem is partly he believes himself, and partly he just doesn't give a damn about anybody but him
 
eohrnberger said:
Historical low unemployment and historical high labor participation rates indicate what? A poor economy? An economy in trouble? :confused:

Meh. DOW goes up. DOW goes down. 🤷‍♂️
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Point being that there was some celebrating which was not exactly deserved.
This is just an example which indicates that there were some wrong impressions being made about the state of the economy.
 
Sandy Shanks said:
The inflation today is being compared to the inflation of an improving economy in 2008. The prosperity in the Trump era was at the tail end of ten years of growth. The inflation had already occurred and prices had stabilized long before Trump entered office.

Put a different way, the economy was in great shape before Trump took office.
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And it was still in great shape when Dim Wit took office, look at where it is headed now.
 
Simon W. Moon said:
Point being that there was some celebrating which was not exactly deserved.
This is just an example which indicates that there were some wrong impressions being made about the state of the economy.
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If your post is in response to 'Historical low unemployment and historical high labor participation rates' as not being deserved, I question that.
If your post is in response to 'DOW goes up. DOW goes down', I think there's common ground here.
 
Linuxcooldude said:
Russians hack the pipeline, prices go up. Biden did what exactly?
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For a private company? Exactly what he should, which was nothing

Now, if you want to have a discussion about whether things that vital should be in the hands of private entities, we can do that.....otherwise, that problem was thiers to deal with.
 
bullseyelqcs said:
For a private company? Exactly what he should, which was nothing

Now, if you want to have a discussion about whether things that vital should be in the hands of private entities, we can do that.....otherwise, that problem was thiers to deal with.
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Russia can certainly stop a private company within Russia. They choose not to because the hackers work in the best interests of Russia. By attacking the U.S. As long as they don't target Russia or its allies, as its coded in the malware itself.

First and foremost: Don't target Russia or friendly states. It's even hard-wired into the malware, including coding to prevent hacks on Moscow's ally Syria, according to cybersecurity experts who have analyzed the malware's digital fingerprints.
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Which means Russia allows it.

www.arkansasonline.com

Rules protect hackers from Russia, experts say | Arkansas Democrat Gazette

MOSCOW -- The ransomware hackers suspected of targeting Colonial Pipeline and other businesses around the world have a strict set of rules.
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