it is not the right thing to do. Minimum wage or jobs for people with no skill or in other words entry level. Just because someone doesn't have enough sense to better themselves should not fall to the rest of us to make up the difference. That is what is wrong with NY, CA, and NJ. The cost of living in those states is ridiculous because of all the various levels of handouts.
If unpaid internships for for-profit business is legal, then the minimum wage is invalid. Just pay less than minimum and call it an "internship." A person can "intern" at a McDonalds to learn the fast food industry, and get $3 an hour to cover any potential expenses while paying $0 salary because it's an internship.
There is no justification in free employees for a for-profit business calling it an internship.
So everyone takes on the chin because these highly educated and skilled workers you speak of did not do market research on demand for their educations after leaving college? You know if you are stupid enough to major in art history and then bitch about the job market, that is on you.
So you think internships should be illegal?
Almost no one gets a degree in art history. People who study business, biology, medicine, advertising, psychology, or, like me, law, are getting hung out to try, expected to work for free for several years before the system deigns to pay us anything. But all it takes to poke a hole in this ever so stupid post is just "no, of course not everyone who is struggling is highly educated and doing everything right, just a lot." And "market research"? Really? That may be the dumbest thing I've heard in this discussion yet. The market is very clear to everyone. There is high turnover and dozens of jobs in just every single field... and ten times that many people competing for them. In every single field.
As I said, blame and self-aggrandizement. That's all you've got. You have no idea what reality is like.
Actually, there are several lawsuits contending that many are. Internships are supposed to be training. They are not supposed to be doing a job for free. Most internships are just the latter. Do a job that should (and often used to) be compensated with a salary for free in exchange for "experience". Those "first jobs" that people used to get... those are expected to be done for free now.
My son is 28, majored in finance. Has had 3 employers since getting out and still gets offers. He lives in a small market. I call bull**** on someone that is skilled saying they can't find work.
Read more. In my fields, the expected retirements that were supposed to start by the time I graduated high school and through my undergrad (opening up a vast number of decently paid positions) are not happening. Heck, even the much needed teaching positions cannot be filled, because we can't afford to live in the town or city (not that oil related jobs get you a place to live anyway). Even in higher ed, adjuncts are playing the unfulfilled waiting game.
you should consider moving, there are teaching positions all over the midwest
Lewinsky/intern/liberal joke.
My son is 28, majored in finance. Has had 3 employers since getting out and still gets offers. He lives in a small market. I call bull**** on someone that is skilled saying they can't find work.
Read more. In my fields, the expected retirements that were supposed to start by the time I graduated high school and through my undergrad (opening up a vast number of decently paid positions) are not happening. Heck, even the much needed teaching positions cannot be filled, because we can't afford to live in the town or city (not that oil related jobs get you a place to live anyway). Even in higher ed, adjuncts are playing the unfulfilled waiting game.
you should consider moving, there are teaching positions all over the midwest
How dense do you have to be to keep pretending that there isn't a serious shortage of work for young people to do, and even less that will pay enough to live?
Easily one of the most ignorant statements I've ever seen made.
Yep, that sums up the "libertarian-right" philosophy pretty well. My personal story is a good one, so everyone else who isn't as fortunate must be doing something wrong and doesn't deserve help. I must be superior, because I don't recognize good fortune.
Half my law class cannot find work as lawyers. And this is even after working unpaid internships for "experience" all through law school.
And, of course, moving isn't a hugely expensive proposition or a risky gamble at all. A whole lot of recent college graduates had to move back in with their families... because they can't afford to live anywhere else.
How dense do you have to be to keep pretending that there isn't a serious shortage of work for young people to do, and even less that will pay enough to live?
Well I guess dems not paying interns is a step up from using them for human humidors.
If minimum wage sets the bottom of the scale for unskilled workers, and the standard of increasing income is to be more productive to the point of increased profit to the employer then what he said is true. Conversely, if you mandate an increase of the minimum wage and the new limit exceeds the ability of the employee's production that employee will be out of a job. I don't know why it is necessary to explain this to someone who claims to be "wise".
Companies do not exist primarily to provide jobs and benefits to people, they are profit driven. So if an employee produces less than they take they are a drag on the company. On a related note, the proposal applies to GOVERNMENT employees, meaning they are paid from tax revenue, not based on production. Government is not concerned with balancing the books, they don't have to since they do not operate out of their own pockets. What this really is is another stab at the private sector that will lead to the argument to increase welfare roles (workers got an X% increase, welfare recipients should too in the name of equality) and widen the gap between workers and welfare leeches. This is more wealth redistribution pure and simple.
OK, I'll bite. Human humidors? Care to share?
And 96% of Republicans who disapprove of the minimum wage hike have reportedly burnt toast in the last 12 months. Whether or not it is the right thing to do has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not politicians are douchebags.
The trouble comes in assuming that Econ 101 can sufficiently describe a 14 trillion dollar economy.
I didn't realize the implications of my question until you responded earlier and I understood what you meant.No sir I do NOT care to share.:lol:
Liberals are really pushing raising the minimum wage for 2014. Thirty states have put forward bills to increase it, and Democrats have made this issue part of their political strategy for this year. Yet, a new study from the Employment Policies Institute (EPI) has exposed the proponents of raising the minimum wage of their "hypocrisy." It seems that 96% of Democrats who support such measures don't pay their interns.
The abstract of the EPI study noted that "the same Members of Congress who are supporting a 40% wage hike on private sector employers are simultaneously failing to provide any wages to their own employee interns."
Last year, I wrote for Newsbusters about how the media rail about the gender wage gap, but seem to ignore that the Obama White House paid their female staffers 88.3% of what their male ones earn.
96 Percent of Dems Who Support Minimum Wage Hike Don
I don't really see how this is hypocritical, its comparing apples and oranges.
It's hypocritical when the Dems are demanding that every should be apples.
Are they? What does that even mean? What are the apples in this analogy that Dems want everyone to be?
How about you tell me what the apples and oranges stood for it your original argument first. Since you were unclear I simply flipped a coin.
They don't stand for anything, saying someone is comparing apples and oranges is a very common expression which just means that someone is comparing two very different things that aren't really comparable, they don't stand for specific things.
Why the hell do I have to explain this?
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