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Finally Germany is prosecuting the Nazi animals who have killed indiscriminately during WW2. Sadly Germany is way too late with their prosecution of those swines. Many Nazi scum have died of old age in freedom even though many had been convicted in the countries where they committed their crimes and the effing Germans refused to extradite them or prosecute them themselves.
So it is nice to see the Nazi murderer getting hauled in front of a judge but too little and way too late.
Pardon my ignorance, but I've been under the impression that SS officers and concentration camp guards have been regularly brought to justice when their identities have been revealed. Throughout my entire life this has been happening.
Only if they weren’t rocket scientists.......
See Operation: Paper Clip
From ABC News
95-year-old alleged SS camp guard faces charges in Germany
A 95-year-old man has been charged with more than 36,000 counts of being an accessory to murder on allegations that he served as a guard at the Nazis' Mauthausen concentration camp, Berlin prosecutors said Friday.
Hans Werner H., whose last name wasn't released because of privacy regulations, is accused of serving as an SS guard in the camp in northern Austria from mid-1944 to early 1945.
During that time, 36,223 people were killed at Mauthausen, primarily by gassing, but also by lethal injection, shootings, starvation or exposure, prosecutor Martin Steltner said.
The suspect isn't accused of a specific killing, but prosecutors argue that as a guard he helped the camp function. Overall, about 95,000 people are believed to have died in the Mauthausen camp system including 14,000 Jews, but also Soviet prisoners of war, Spaniards who had fought against Gen. Francisco Franco, and others.
COMMENT:-
This is an absolutely shocking development.
I mean it isn't as if the people who were killed were American, and it isn't as if the killings had taken place in the US, and it isn't as if this was an isolated incident, and it isn't as if it was actually illegal for what happened to those non-Americans to happen, so why did Mr. Trump turn an American citizen over to a foreign court?
You don't suppose it might have anything to do with the fact that the American citizen didn't have the ability to buy multiple billions of dollars worth of American weapons to be used against other non-Americans, do you?
PS - The fact that NOT turning this person over to the Germans for trial would have resulted in a VERY serious decline in contributions to Mr. Trump's re-election fund as well as a VERY serious decline in revenue for Mr. Trump's hotels is simply something we don't mention in polite company - right?
Yes, rocket scientists weren't in the front lines of the Holocaust. There's a reason why we prioritize the prosecution of SS officers and camp guards over, say, German infantry and factory workers making ammunition.
Yes, rocket scientists weren't in the front lines of the Holocaust. There's a reason why we prioritize the prosecution of SS officers and camp guards over, say, German infantry and factory workers making ammunition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun
SS Officers with nothing to offer the western powers.......
“Von Braun joined the SS horseback riding school on 1 November 1933 as an SS-Anwärter. He left the following year.:63 In 1940, he joined the SS[24]:47[25] and was given the rank of Untersturmführer in the Allgemeine SS and issued membership number 185,068.:121 In 1947, he gave the U.S. War Department this explanation:
In spring 1940, one SS-Standartenfuehrer (SS-colonel) Mueller from Greifswald, a bigger town in the vicinity of Peenemünde, looked me up in my office ... and told me that Reichsfuehrer SS Himmler had sent him with the order to urge me to join the SS. I told him I was so busy with my rocket work that I had no time to spare for any political activity. He then told me, that ... the SS would cost me no time at all. I would be awarded the rank of a[n] "Untersturmfuehrer" (lieutenant) and it were [sic] a very definite desire of Himmler that I attend his invitation to join.
I asked Mueller to give me some time for reflection. He agreed.
Realizing that the matter was of highly political significance for the relation between the SS and the Army, I called immediately on my military superior, Dr. Dornberger. He informed me that the SS had for a long time been trying to get their "finger in the pie" of the rocket work. I asked him what to do. He replied on the spot that if I wanted to continue our mutual work, I had no alternative but to join.”
You really think Werner von Braun had no idea who was the labor behind the Nazi rocket program?
https://www.ushmm.org/research/publ...p-the-story-of-the-nazi-slave-labor-camp-that
von braun acknowledged that he had created a new method of warfare with his V2
he knew the rocket plants were served by slaves
he was a lieutenant in the SS
yet he receives national medals from the US for his contributions
while a 95 year old who was 20 when assigned to guard a concentration camp is extradited for following orders
i miss seeing the equity
From ABC News
95-year-old alleged SS camp guard faces charges in Germany
A 95-year-old man has been charged with more than 36,000 counts of being an accessory to murder on allegations that he served as a guard at the Nazis' Mauthausen concentration camp, Berlin prosecutors said Friday.
Hans Werner H., whose last name wasn't released because of privacy regulations, is accused of serving as an SS guard in the camp in northern Austria from mid-1944 to early 1945.
During that time, 36,223 people were killed at Mauthausen, primarily by gassing, but also by lethal injection, shootings, starvation or exposure, prosecutor Martin Steltner said.
The suspect isn't accused of a specific killing, but prosecutors argue that as a guard he helped the camp function. Overall, about 95,000 people are believed to have died in the Mauthausen camp system including 14,000 Jews, but also Soviet prisoners of war, Spaniards who had fought against Gen. Francisco Franco, and others.
COMMENT:-
This is an absolutely shocking development.
I mean it isn't as if the people who were killed were American, and it isn't as if the killings had taken place in the US, and it isn't as if this was an isolated incident, and it isn't as if it was actually illegal for what happened to those non-Americans to happen, so why did Mr. Trump turn an American citizen over to a foreign court?
You don't suppose it might have anything to do with the fact that the American citizen didn't have the ability to buy multiple billions of dollars worth of American weapons to be used against other non-Americans, do you?
PS - The fact that NOT turning this person over to the Germans for trial would have resulted in a VERY serious decline in contributions to Mr. Trump's re-election fund as well as a VERY serious decline in revenue for Mr. Trump's hotels is simply something we don't mention in polite company - right?
Hopefully, he'll live what few miserable years he has left in the dirtiest of jail cells, and then gets a one way express train to hell.
**** him.the guy is 95 for gawd's sake.
I find you to be very sick to defend a Nazi war criminal.I find your comment childish and plain old sick.
Pardon my ignorance, but I've been under the impression that SS officers and concentration camp guards have been regularly brought to justice when their identities have been revealed. Throughout my entire life this has been happening.
In 1960, Johann Kremer, a former SS concentration camp doctor, walked out of the Münster Regional Court a free man, even though he had ordered the killing of sick and exhausted inmates. Kremer, who needed organs for his medical research, noted in his diary on Oct. 10, 1942: "Extracted and fixed fresh live material from liver, spleen and pancreas."
But the court ruled that because the former SS Obersturmführer had lacked a "personal interest in the crime," he was merely an accessory and not a perpetrator. When Kremer received a 10-year prison sentence instead of a life sentence, it was probably not a coincidence that this was precisely the amount of time he had already served in Poland.
The so-called accessory construct was based on the wishful thinking that only Hitler and his entourage had been responsible for the Holocaust. All others, the legendary Hessian chief prosecutor Fritz Bauer said derisively, viewed themselves as "raped, terrorized followers or depersonalized and dehumanized creatures compelled to do things that were completely alien to their nature."
he was a young soldier serving his nation as an enlisted man following orders. orders, which if not followed, would not have allowed him to see 95 years**** him.
He helped murder innocent Jewish men, women, and children, so he can rot slowly into compost.
if you want to subject the nazi bastards who issued the orders and oversaw the murders of jews, gypsies, homosexuals, and mentally deficient, then i am with you. but not when prosecuting someone who as a young man of 20 followed orders to guard a postI find you to be very sick to defend a Nazi war criminal.
I agree with your post. This guy was merely following orders being a guard at his post. This was just a show trial to keep the narrative of the Holocaust™ alive.he was a young soldier serving his nation as an enlisted man following orders. orders, which if not followed, would not have allowed him to see 95 years
if you want to subject the nazi bastards who issued the orders and oversaw the murders of jews, gypsies, homosexuals, and mentally deficient, then i am with you. but not when prosecuting someone who as a young man of 20 followed orders to guard a post
for all you or i know, this fellow may have been benevolent to those he guarded
I agree with your post. This guy was merely following orders being a guard at his post. This was just a show trial to keep the narrative of the Holocaust™ alive.
The "just following orders" excuse was a card played all throughout the trails of many Nazi war criminals in Nuremberg, and it's no better now.he was a young soldier serving his nation as an enlisted man following orders. orders, which if not followed, would not have allowed him to see 95 years
if you want to subject the nazi bastards who issued the orders and oversaw the murders of jews, gypsies, homosexuals, and mentally deficient, then i am with you. but not when prosecuting someone who as a young man of 20 followed orders to guard a post
for all you or i know, this fellow may have been benevolent to those he guarded
von braun acknowledged that he had created a new method of warfare with his V2
he knew the rocket plants were served by slaves
he was a lieutenant in the SS
yet he receives national medals from the US for his contributions
while a 95 year old who was 20 when assigned to guard a concentration camp is extradited for following orders
i miss seeing the equity
the guy is 95 for gawd's sake.
I find your comment childish and plain old sick.
The "just following orders" excuse was a card played all throughout the trails of many Nazi war criminals in Nuremberg, and it's no better now.
He may not have participated directly, but he knew damn well what was going on, and he's an accessory the same as the others morally.
It's no different than driving the get away car in a murder.
Dont we have better things to do?
There does not seem to me to be any shortage of useful things that need doing.
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