95% effective

[Good4Nothin]

We heard the new covid vaccines were a miracle drug. Wow, 95% effective. But no one thought to ask "for how long?" Maybe a couple of months? Maybe they will start recommending, or mandating, a monthly vaccine. No problem, I 'm sure your employer gives you at least 2 or 3 sick days every month. If not, just get the shot on the weekend, no one cares if you're sick on the weekends.

 

[AJG]

This study says it goes down to 84% effectiveness after 4-6 months:

The first three phases of the Pfizer vaccine clinical trial found 95% efficacy 7 days to 2 months after administration of dose two, waning to 84% after 4 to 6 months.

Local and systemic adverse reactions were mild to moderate after the third dose, similar to those after the second dose. No adverse events were reported in the month after receipt of the third dose.

Studies show good COVID booster effect, waning 2nd-dose protection

www.cidrap.umn.edu

I'm sure we'll know more when more people have had the booster, but it looks like a booster will be recommended every 6 months I guess?

 

[Helix]

Get the ****ing shot. You can't own the libs if you're dead.

 

[maxparrish]

This study says it goes down to 84% effectiveness after 4-6 months:

Studies show good COVID booster effect, waning 2nd-dose protection

www.cidrap.umn.edu

I'm sure we'll know more when more people have had the booster, but it looks like a booster will be recommended every 6 months I guess?

Unless, of course, your one of those that died. Very adverse in that case.

 

[maxparrish]

This study says it goes down to 84% effectiveness after 4-6 months:

Studies show good COVID booster effect, waning 2nd-dose protection

www.cidrap.umn.edu

I'm sure we'll know more when more people have had the booster, but it looks like a booster will be recommended every 6 months I guess?

LOL...every time they provide another dose they have to brag about how effective it is...for a couple of months before suggesting another dose is needed. So now its the third dose that is needed? By this time next year they will be assuring us that "after the 6th dose you'll be 11 times less likely to die"...

This has to be one of the worst "vaccines" ever invented and approved for use...

 

[Fledermaus]

LOL...every time they provide another dose they have to brag about how effective it is...for a couple of months before suggesting another dose is needed. So now its the third dose that is needed? By this time next year they will be assuring us that "after the 6th dose you'll be 11 times less likely to die"...

This has to be one of the worst "vaccines" ever invented and approved for use...

Who are the ones dieing?

 

[maxparrish]

Who are the ones dieing?

People who have been vaccinated, even some from being vaccinated.

19-year-old Simone Scott was excited to get her second dose of Moderna’s Covid vaccine on May 1.

Now her mother Valerie Kraimer is arranging her funeral.

Simone, a first-year-student at Northwestern University, suffered a case of apparent myocarditis-induced heart failure on Sunday, May 16. Despite extraordinary measures to save her, including a heart transplant, she died Friday morning at Northwestern Memorial Hospital in downtown Chicago.

Now her mother and father are struggling to understand what happened to their daughter – and why they had no idea that the Covid vaccines might be anything but safe.

“I lost my only daughter,” Kraimer said in an interview Sunday night. “I never thought I’d have to give up my daughter for the greater good of society.”

Simone Scott, Oct. 7, 2001 - June 11, 2021

Simone received her second dose of the Moderna vaccine May 1. On May 16, her heart stopped. Her parents are still trying to understand what happened.

alexberenson.substack.com

 

[W_Heisenberg]

We heard the new covid vaccines were a miracle drug. Wow, 95% effective. But no one thought to ask "for how long?" Maybe a couple of months? Maybe they will start recommending, or mandating, a monthly vaccine. No problem, I 'm sure your employer gives you at least 2 or 3 sick days every month. If not, just get the shot on the weekend, no one cares if you're sick on the weekends.

So what? Lots of vaccines require boosters. The polio vaccine needs to be taken 4 times.

Where’s your sarcastic and derisive post criticizing Salk for not being able to predict how many boosters would be needed when he first discovered the polio vaccine?

Let me demonstrate the maturity level of your argument by way of analogy:

“Salk is such a moron he didn’t even accurately predict how many boosters we would need. He doesn’t know anything. You may as well not have your kids take the polio vaccine. What a great job it does. Geeesh. These nerdy scientists think they are soooooooo smart but they can’t even predict how many polio boosters we need? Are you kidding me? What’s next? A 5th shot? Geeesh. What losers.”

 

[AJG]

LOL...every time they provide another dose they have to brag about how effective it is...for a couple of months before suggesting another dose is needed. So now its the third dose that is needed? By this time next year they will be assuring us that "after the 6th dose you'll be 11 times less likely to die"...

This has to be one of the worst "vaccines" ever invented and approved for use...

Boosters do increase your level of protection against covid, but even without them the vaccines do appear to be effective probably well beyond 6 months:

Several studies published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, including three on Friday, suggest that while efficacy against infection with the Delta variant seems to wane slightly over time, the vaccines hold steady against severe illness in all age groups. Only in older adults over 75 do the vaccines show some weakening in protection against hospitalization.

Immunity conferred by vaccines relies on protection both from antibodies and from immune cells. Although the levels of antibodies may wane over time — and raise the risk of infection — the body’s memory of the virus is long-lived.

In a new review, some F.D.A. scientists and others say boosters aren’t needed for the general population. (Published 2021)

The benefits of a third shot for most people are small and are far outweighed by the benefits of using those doses for initial vaccinations, the scientists say.

www.nytimes.com

So no, it's definitely not one of the worst vaccines ever invented. In fact it appears to work just fine.

 

[Airyaman]

People who have been vaccinated, even some from being vaccinated.

Simone Scott, Oct. 7, 2001 - June 11, 2021

Simone received her second dose of the Moderna vaccine May 1. On May 16, her heart stopped. Her parents are still trying to understand what happened.

alexberenson.substack.com

I suppose she could have waited to get COVID instead and end up with the same result.

Association Between COVID-19 and Myocarditis...

Viral infections are a common cause of myocarditis. Some studies have indicated an association between COVID-19 and myocarditis.

www.cdc.gov

 

[Noodlegawd]

We heard the new covid vaccines were a miracle drug. Wow, 95% effective. But no one thought to ask "for how long?"

Actually, lots of people thought to ask that. Perhaps you were too busy binging Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson for the past year to notice.

 

[Ginger Ale]

LOL...every time they provide another dose they have to brag about how effective it is...for a couple of months before suggesting another dose is needed. So now its the third dose that is needed? By this time next year they will be assuring us that "after the 6th dose you'll be 11 times less likely to die"...

This has to be one of the worst "vaccines" ever invented and approved for use...

There are several vaccines that take a series of 3 or more. HPV, Hep, and the flu is yearly. They're trying to figure this out in real time because we're in a pandemic. Don't get your panties in a wad over it. It's not unusual and it doesn't degrade the miracle. Get it and live through the pandemic. Not that hard.

 

[Cardinal]

We heard the new covid vaccines were a miracle drug. Wow, 95% effective. But no one thought to ask "for how long?" Maybe a couple of months? Maybe they will start recommending, or mandating, a monthly vaccine. No problem, I 'm sure your employer gives you at least 2 or 3 sick days every month. If not, just get the shot on the weekend, no one cares if you're sick on the weekends.

If by “No one thought to ask ‘for how long’” you mean that’s what everybody was talking bout since forever. Here’s a thread where we were talking about it in July of last year. https://debatepolitics.com/threads/...ine-and-herd-immunity.409674/#post-1072279217

 

[Big Eye]

We heard the new covid vaccines were a miracle drug. Wow, 95% effective. But no one thought to ask "for how long?" Maybe a couple of months? Maybe they will start recommending, or mandating, a monthly vaccine. No problem, I 'm sure your employer gives you at least 2 or 3 sick days every month. If not, just get the shot on the weekend, no one cares if you're sick on the weekends.

What is odd is that they are giving out boosters for the original variant. The Delta variant is highly transmissible regardless of vaccination status…so other than giving boosters to the vulnerable to hopefully keep them out of hospital, there is no point to the boosters with regard to transmission.

Also , long term , it may be the case that training your immune system to target spike proteins could end up being a weakness that the virus could exploit.

 

[Allan]

What is odd is that they are giving out boosters for the original variant. The Delta variant is highly transmissible regardless of vaccination status…so other than giving boosters to the vulnerable to hopefully keep them out of hospital, there is no point to the boosters with regard to transmission.

Also , long term , it may be the case that training your immune system to target spike proteins could end up being a weakness that the virus could exploit.

The efficacy of two doses is 67% to 88% (depending on vaccine) against Delta. Get vaccinated.

Source

 

[roguenuke]

People who have been vaccinated, even some from being vaccinated.

Simone Scott, Oct. 7, 2001 - June 11, 2021

Simone received her second dose of the Moderna vaccine May 1. On May 16, her heart stopped. Her parents are still trying to understand what happened.

alexberenson.substack.com

You are 6x more likely to suffer from myocarditis from getting covid than getting the vaccine.

 

[Big Eye]

The efficacy of two doses is 67% to 88% (depending on vaccine) against Delta. Get vaccinated.

Source

I am vaccinated. The Delta variant spreads like wild fire regardless of vaccination status…Israel and many other locations prove this. At one point Israel was the most vaxxed country on Earth and also had the highest infection rate.

 

[Big Eye]

You are 6x more likely to suffer from myocarditis from getting covid than getting the vaccine.

That’s not what U.K. health officials said when they did not recommend vaccination for kids.

 

[Big Eye]

You are 6x more likely to suffer from myocarditis from getting covid than getting the vaccine.

As evidence shows that COVID-19 rarely causes severe disease in children without underlying health conditions, at this time the JCVI’s view is that the minimal health benefits of offering universal COVID-19 vaccination to children do not outweigh the potential risks.

 

[Allan]

I am vaccinated. The Delta variant spreads like wild fire regardless of vaccination status…Israel and many other locations prove this. At one point Israel was the most vaxxed country on Earth and also had the highest infection rate.

Israel has only 19K active cases, and only 388 serious cases. Only 64% of Israelis are fully vaccinated, far below many other countries. Israel is not a good example to use.

 

[bluesmoke]

Another RW OP of implied soft claims, false and unfounded, followed by more RW posting in support, full of more unfounded claim and ridicule that implies COVID vaccine is useless. The usual conservative science denier strategy of using partial science to subvert the whole of the science.

 

[roguenuke]

That’s not what U.K. health officials said when they did not recommend vaccination for kids.

12 and up in the UK are being vaccinated. The person in the article was 19, an adult. Perhaps you should stay on topic.

 

[Big Eye]

Israel has only 19K active cases, and only 388 serious cases. Only 64% of Israelis are fully vaccinated, far below many other countries. Israel is not a good example to use.

A few weeks ago Israel was the most vaxxed country on Earth and had the highest infection rate.

UPDATE: Is Pfizer Vaccine to Blame for Israel’s High COVID Infection Rate?

Top media personality wonders why Israeli study showing vaccinated people more likely to be infected is being underreported

www.israeltoday.co.il

 

[Big Eye]

12 and up in the UK are being vaccinated. The person in the article was 19, an adult. Perhaps you should stay on topic.

Most kids are not getting vaccinated in the U.K. …for obvious reasons.

 

[Allan]

A few weeks ago Israel was the most vaxxed country on Earth and had the highest infection rate.

UPDATE: Is Pfizer Vaccine to Blame for Israel’s High COVID Infection Rate?

Top media personality wonders why Israeli study showing vaccinated people more likely to be infected is being underreported

www.israeltoday.co.il

This article is from September 2nd. Israel was not the most vaccinated country on Earth on September 2nd.

In addition details from your linked article directly refute your point:

• Individuals who are unvaccinated and who have never been infected with COVID are at least twice as likely to be infected as those who are vaccinated.