kamino
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see you in the conspiracy forum
there are plenty of reasons for crying on 9/11
not ashamed to admit I had some tears running yesterday remembering those i lost
probably part of the reason i have not slept 3 nights this week, including tonight
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see you in the conspiracy forum
there are plenty of reasons for crying on 9/11
not ashamed to admit I had some tears running yesterday remembering those i lost
probably part of the reason i have not slept 3 nights this week, including tonight
but this BS you are posting most definitely is not a reason
how the hell do you manage to ever leave your house if this nonsense sends you into the fetal position for an hour? :roll:
Oh I'm sorry, because there are no questions to be answered and the governemnt tell the truth about every thing. The way those buildings fell did not even seem the slightest bit odd to you?
Or how all those police officers, fire fighters and medical workers said they heard pops or saw flashes did not seem strange to you? Did it not seem odd to you when asked about these things the government will not answer? To many things just seem odd for it all to be as the government says. Did you even watch the whole video?
Odd? No. Airplanes, giant freakin' airplanes, flew into them.
Even the NIST report acknowledges that the planes did not cause the buildings (which were designed to withstand planes crashing into them) to fall. No plane crashed into WTC7.
Until truthers stop trying to disprove the given explanation and start proving theirs, they will never successfully argue their case of Government involvement.
But both factors being present at the same time, on the other hand, did bring the towers down.
And since you seem to have totally ignored my main point, I wil restate it: Until truthers stop trying to disprove the given explanation and start proving theirs, they will never successfully argue their case of Government involvement.
Don't you want justice for those you lost, and all those who died? According to a growing number of scientists, architects, pilots, and scholars, neither the 9/11 Commission nor the NIST report have adequately answered questions about 9/11. There should be an independent investigation.
Those scientists, architects, pilots and scholars are on par with the list of "scientists" that attempt to disprove global warming.
And WTC7, which was not struck by a plane?
I don't have a theory. I only know the government's explanation is scientifically impossible, and is far from being proven.
Even the NIST report acknowledges that the planes did not cause the buildings (which were designed to withstand planes crashing into them) to fall. No plane crashed into WTC7.
How so? Because they disagree with you?
Odd? No. Airplanes, giant freakin' airplanes, flew into them.
First of all, absolutely none of that proves a conspiracy.
The problem is that most "truth"ers spend all their energy blasting holes in the explanation (the empirically observable FACT) that two big honkin' airplanes smashed into the building and caused extreme structural damage to the building.
This is observable fact.
The problem with the convoluted, unproven theory of a conspiracy is the fact that it takes a giant **** on Occam's Razor and replaces that with basically nothing.
The "evidence" presented is always very suspect, and fails to accurately portray the science. It makes dubious comparisons of other high rise fires that do not have the second factor of the MASSIVE projectile impact.
The velocity of the airplanes are estimated around 400 MPH. The maximum takeoff weight of a 757 is 250,000 lbs (125 tons). It is even more for a 767.
Thus, the momentum of impact is about the same as a 1 ton meteor with a velocity of 50,000 MPH! Even if we assume the velocity at 200 MPH the momentum of impact is still like a 1 ton meteor traveling 25,000 MPH. That's gonna leave a mark, to say the least. Especially on a hollow structure that offers no lateral strength (like an aluminum can).
The sweet irony, is that "truthers" will use that momentum "evidence" to attack one point while simultaneously ignoring it regarding their attacks on other points!
There problem is not disproving the fact that the towers were hit with airplanes. That is impossible. It is that truthers cannot prove their allegations at all. Any detailed objective analysis of the two explanations will always lead to a full dismissal of the truthers allegations as unfounded, unproven, and irrational.
Because even if the truthers could show evidence that the official explanation is unlikely, their allegations will still fail the logical test miserably. It's purely the application of Occam's Razor. If given two probabilities that are unlikely, the least unlikely explanation (simplest) is usually correct. Until evidence is given that changes the level of "unlikely" in the official explanation (not really all that unlikely given all the data) and the conspiracy (really, really, really unlikely in the sense that it assumes an extreme level of government competence that is unsupported by simple observance of government at any level)
Until truthers stop trying to disprove the given explanation and start proving theirs, they will never successfully argue their case of Government involvement.
When they can do that efficiently and effectively, I will give them their due. I honestly doubt they will ever make their case effectively, though, because they will ignore the disconfirming evidence of their beliefs in favor of what they want to believe.
The official theory of a "pancake collapse" is physically impossible. The law of momentum conservation proves this.
... I just KNOW they had prior knowledge, and I THINK they let it happen.
Those scientists, architects, pilots and scholars are on par with the list of "scientists" that attempt to disprove global warming.
The law of momentum conservation proves this.
sorry, i take the word of a trusted friend over internet babbleOh I'm sorry, because there are no questions to be answered and the government tell the truth about every thing. The way those buildings fell did not even seem the slightest bit odd to you? Or how all those police officers, fire fighters and medical workers said they heard pops or saw flashes did not seem strange to you? Did it not seem odd to you when asked about these things the government will not answer? To many things just seem odd for it all to be as the government says. Did you even watch the whole video?
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