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9-11: Who did it?[W:1493]

sKiTzo said:
There's no citation. It's just smart people analyzing the information which, in this case, is obvious:

1. Israelis driving vans filled with explosives busted on 911
2. Israelis have long history of false-flag activity which is trying to get others to oppose the enemies of Israel
3. Palestine is enemy of Israel
4. A phone call is made to police by someone with an Israeli accent saying that he saw a guy dressed like a palestinian mixing something in a white van.

First of all, the dialogue is so idiotic, it could only be a Mossad agent saying it. Secondly, if Palestinians exist in the US, I've never seen one, and the likeliness of making a distinction from a Palestinian to any other arab by their attire is so ridiculous, that it could only have been a Mossad agent.
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TRANSLATION: Has no other good reason for the claim of Palestinians.

Now the Mossad couldn't spare a person who could speak English convincingly?

Really?

You REALLY believe this?

And what does a Palestinian look like? How do you know you never saw one?
 
BmanMcfly said:
I actually got the sense of the same thing, like if there were no explosives in the car, then what were they still being held for?

I also remember from the police radios where they had stopped a car, the drivers ran off and the vehicle exploded... Don't know if I could even still find that, but I'll try.

Regardless, you are right, mark is still about 10-12 variations shy of his claim, and that's being generous.
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A van exploded on King st., and in the aforementioned press conference where Kerik said there were no explosives after all, listen to what he says right after that - he is closing a portion of lower Manhattan - not the area where the Trade center was, but an area that included King St.. He says that throughout all of tomorrow, if anybody is seen in this area who doesn't live there, they will be arrested.
 
sKiTzo said:
A van exploded on King st., and in the aforementioned press conference where Kerik said there were no explosives after all, listen to what he says right after that - he is closing a portion of lower Manhattan - not the area where the Trade center was, but an area that included King St.. He says that throughout all of tomorrow, if anybody is seen in this area who doesn't live there, they will be arrested.
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Ah, yes....

The exploding van that produced no casualties nor video, nor witnesses....

A van exploding would have been noticed by THOUSANDS if not TENS OF THOUSANDS....
 
Bob0627 said:
I don't put myself in any group-think class but I'm sure you do.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/consp...e-driver-wasnt-w-284-a-34.html#post1065095466

As stated in the post, I'm quite willing to discuss what I described and believe happened to the 3 towers but only with genuine posters so your claim is unfounded. The reports are not just errors, they are a politically motivated fraud and as such, should be scrutinized to the nth degree. They are accepted as fact by millions of people just because they come from authority and are the basis for just about every US government agenda since 9/11. Anyway, if and when you can show me you're not married to the OCT and you have genuine concerns/questions about it, let me know and I'd be more than willing to discuss 9/11 with you. Otherwise, I have no incentive to discuss it.
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Independent thinkers are frowned upon Bob. One must identify with some group or the other. Some need some group or the other to make their decisions for them, to form their thoughts.
 
Fledermaus said:
Why what?

Why Bob won't accept the answers?

Because Bob believes the ebil gummint did 911 and nothing will change his mind (his words).
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Bob doesn't accept the answers because they are not valid answers. They are not supported by the facts known. They are not answers really, they are just a worn out old story that is impossible according to the facts.
 
Henry David said:
Bob doesn't accept the answers because they are not valid answers. They are not supported by the facts known. They are not answers really, they are just a worn out old story that is impossible according to the facts.
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The answers we were fed were all fraudulent since we never had any legitimate investigation. There can never be any answers without a legitimate investigation. They hid and are still hiding 10,000+ documents/pieces of evidence that would likely yield some answers and change many others given. They deliberately destroyed tons of evidence that were crucial to any legitimate investigation. This is a massive criminal cover up conducted at the highest levels in the US government over the last 2 administrations. Anyone knowing this fact who claims we have all the answers is obviously full of **** and peddling ****. This is why any discussion with such poster(s) is a waste of time. It only gives them an avenue to spew more propaganda.
 
Henry David said:
Bob doesn't accept the answers because they are not valid answers. They are not supported by the facts known. They are not answers really, they are just a worn out old story that is impossible according to the facts.
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The overwhelming bulk of evidence supports the so-called OCT.

Your denial of that fact is irrelevant.
 
Bob0627 said:
The answers we were fed were all fraudulent since we never had any legitimate investigation. There can never be any answers without a legitimate investigation. They hid and are still hiding 10,000+ documents/pieces of evidence that would likely yield some answers and change many others given. They deliberately destroyed tons of evidence that were crucial to any legitimate investigation. This is a massive criminal cover up conducted at the highest levels in the US government over the last 2 administrations. Anyone knowing this fact who claims we have all the answers is obviously full of **** and peddling ****. This is why any discussion with such poster(s) is a waste of time. It only gives them an avenue to spew more propaganda.
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There were legitimate investigations. You simply cannot or will not accept the findings of those legitimate investigations.
 
Fledermaus said:
There were legitimate investigations. You simply cannot or will not accept the findings of those legitimate investigations.
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That is because I can perceive fraud more easily than you do, more quickly than you do. Your "BS Detector" has failed and mine is working well. :mrgreen:
 
Fledermaus said:
Ah, yes....

The exploding van that produced no casualties nor video, nor witnesses....

A van exploding would have been noticed by THOUSANDS if not TENS OF THOUSANDS....
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This is pure conjecture, thus irrelevant by even your own standards.
 
Fledermaus said:
There were legitimate investigations. You simply cannot or will not accept the findings of those legitimate investigations.
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The investigation completely left out entirely the possibility of explosives in a scenario where the physical input of information pointed to nothing other than explosives. When thousands of witnesses (including police, firemen, and first responders) say they heard and felt bombs inside the buildings and it is not investigated, it is not a legitimate investigation. These are the facts. You can keep saying it was a legitimate investigation, but you've been proven wrong on that regard, which means you don't accept the fact that when an investigation calls for investigating for explosives, you investigate for explosives, period.
 
Fledermaus said:
TRANSLATION: Has no other good reason for the claim of Palestinians.

Now the Mossad couldn't spare a person who could speak English convincingly?

Really?

You REALLY believe this?
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The Mossad has been caught red-handed in every false-flag they've ever attempted. They're not the brightest bunch. There might be some that have an english accent, but they're not bright enough to know when an english accent is needed...


Fledermaus said:
And what does a Palestinian look like? How do you know you never saw one?
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Exactly. How would ANYONE know they ever saw one? That's why the caller wasn't someone who saw a palestinian, but someone who wanted the police to think they saw a palestinian.
 
sKiTzo said:
The investigation completely left out entirely the possibility of explosives in a scenario where the physical input of information pointed to nothing other than explosives. When thousands of witnesses (including police, firemen, and first responders) say they heard and felt bombs inside the buildings and it is not investigated, it is not a legitimate investigation. These are the facts. You can keep saying it was a legitimate investigation, but you've been proven wrong on that regard, which means you don't accept the fact that when an investigation calls for investigating for explosives, you investigate for explosives, period.
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Incorrect...

The.FBI investigation looked for explosives.

Explosions are not automatically explosives.

Those are facts.
 
sKiTzo said:
The Mossad has been caught red-handed in every false-flag they've ever attempted. They're not the brightest bunch. There might be some that have an english accent, but they're not bright enough to know when an english accent is needed...




Exactly. How would ANYONE know they ever saw one? That's why the caller wasn't someone who saw a palestinian, but someone who wanted the police to think they saw a palestinian.
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Caught red handed in your imaginary false flags...
 
Can anyone produce the FBI investigative report?

I'm dying to go over the case notes, interview summaries, interview reports, list of evidence, collection methods, sample analysis data, etc.

Does anyone have a link or direction as to where I can get it?
 
Fledermaus said:
Incorrect...

The.FBI investigation looked for explosives.

Explosions are not automatically explosives.

Those are facts.
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We're talking about THE investigation - The NIST investigation. Changing the goalposts, huh?
 
sKiTzo said:
We're talking about THE investigation - The NIST investigation. Changing the goalposts, huh?
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The National Construction Safety Team Act, wasn't even signed into law until October of 2002. By then the steel has been long melted down, probably even paid for, brought back and built in some destroyer(ha, ha), I never did follow it after it reached China and South Korea. I think someone managed to save around 150 pieces or so, but don't hold me to that.

So the NIST team could have never tested or examined properly for explosives. That's why he moved on to wherever this FBI report is, Maus is just distracting you, dude, there's no reports worth the paper they were printed. After no FBI report, I'll bet he moves onto the incredible FEMA report, when that proves unworthy, the ASCE will be submitted. Then CTUBH. Yes, Imagine that, a bunch of civil and structural engineers taking samples and analysing for explosive residue and the sort. Then back to NIST, in some kind of headspinning vicious circle.

Most people overlook the meaning of Fledermaus as, the Bat, but Die Fledermaus is a operetta about a trap. Just saying.
 
Buck naked said:
Can anyone produce the FBI investigative report?

I'm dying to go over the case notes, interview summaries, interview reports, list of evidence, collection methods, sample analysis data, etc.

Does anyone have a link or direction as to where I can get it?
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Gee..,. PENTTBOM.
 
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