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9-11: Who did it?[W:1493]

Henry David said:
You're funny Maus. Yes, high angle of attack. :lamo

I know you don't believe a word except what you're told by some government figure, but a friend of mine says that from the drawings he can find, that fuselage section you showed is actually identical in dimensions to a 727, not a 757.

So, carry on Mr. Wright. :mrgreen:
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So now you are admitting a Boeing went down in Shanksville? Up until now you have insisted there was no Boeing.

And how did your friend get such precise measurements from a single photograph of a badly misshapen bit of metal?
 
Fledermaus said:
Derp...
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Perhaps it was the same Boeing that did the impossible last-minute steep pull-up and fly-over of the Pentagon maneuver without showing up on radar or being seen by anyone.
 
Mark F said:
Perhaps it was the same Boeing that did the impossible last-minute steep pull-up and fly-over of the Pentagon maneuver without showing up on radar or being seen by anyone.
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Even more fail.....



Design and development

The 757 (designated "7N7" during initial development)[3] was designed by Boeing to replace the Boeing 727 and complement the Boeing 767 on thin routes. Boeing originally offered the airlines a stretched, re-engined 727-200, known as the 727-300, but this never received enough interest from the airlines to proceed. Early 7N7 and 757 concepts featured a "T-tail" with under-wing engines, but a conventional tail was ultimately adopted. The 757 retains the same upper-fuselage diameter as the previous Boeing 707, 727, and 737. The first Boeing 757 was delivered to Eastern Air Lines on 22 December 1982.
 
Henry David said:
Considering PA, why do you suppose that the first government official to examine the field reported to the news cameras that he found nothing? And why do you suppose the pictures taken show no airplane, no airliner, no baggage and no bodies there?
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Speed, mass, composition of the ground. You want us to believe a massive conspiracy able to fool the world was pulled off with a fake airplane crash but they were so inept as to NOT have airplane debris there, all the while loading the PENTAGON with fake plane debris so they could fire a missile at it. Absurdity and you are close friends me thinks.
 
The Saudi's did it, while a bunch of Israelis looked on laughed and danced.
 
Henry David said:
You're funny Maus. Yes, high angle of attack. :lamo

I know you don't believe a word except what you're told by some government figure, but a friend of mine says that from the drawings he can find, that fuselage section you showed is actually identical in dimensions to a 727, not a 757.

So, carry on Mr. Wright. :mrgreen:
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Another post with nothing to go on except your statements, "a friend" told you something.

. Show us why your correct on "that fuselage section you showed is actually identical in dimensions to a 727, not a 757." Many then you might have some creditability.
I know your a free thinker, so you say. Seem you let VToday, P4911T, etc tell you what to accept. figures.
 
Fledermaus said:
Even more fail.....

Design and development

The 757 (designated "7N7" during initial development)[3] was designed by Boeing to replace the Boeing 727 and complement the Boeing 767 on thin routes. Boeing originally offered the airlines a stretched, re-engined 727-200, known as the 727-300, but this never received enough interest from the airlines to proceed. Early 7N7 and 757 concepts featured a "T-tail" with under-wing engines, but a conventional tail was ultimately adopted. The 757 retains the same upper-fuselage diameter as the previous Boeing 707, 727, and 737. The first Boeing 757 was delivered to Eastern Air Lines on 22 December 1982.
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Nice catch. Too bad our resident aviation expert didn't bother to do the most basic homework to validate his claim.
 
mike2810 said:
Another post with nothing to go on except your statements, "a friend" told you something.

. Show us why your correct on "that fuselage section you showed is actually identical in dimensions to a 727, not a 757." Many then you might have some creditability.
I know your a free thinker, so you say. Seem you let VToday, P4911T, etc tell you what to accept. figures.
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The important thing is that HD has now admitted there is evidence of a Boeing at Shanksville and that dimensionally it matches a 757 since the 727 and 757 share the same upper fuselage diameter.

But remember, free-thinking is not the same as critical thinking.
 
Mark F said:
But apparently there to personally fly important Saudi officials out of the country on 9/11?
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I never said personally. You did
 
I found the fact that the Saudis were flown out of the country troubling. However I can imagine that they might have feared and immediate backlash once the ID of the hijackers was revealed... and some people getting some vigilante justice. I know this actually did happen to some Pakistanis or Indians right after 9/11. The rednecks wanted revenge and anyone who looked like an Arab to them was a target. So maybe the Saudi's used the insider influence and got the Bushies to get them out of the country and away from possible vigilante attacks.

However this is pretty much a very special privilege... and I don't see why they got it. Maybe they should have been held in protective custody in some hotel in DC ;-) instead.
 
SanderO said:
I found the fact that the Saudis were flown out of the country troubling. However I can imagine that they might have feared and immediate backlash once the ID of the hijackers was revealed... and some people getting some vigilante justice. I know this actually did happen to some Pakistanis or Indians right after 9/11. The rednecks wanted revenge and anyone who looked like an Arab to them was a target. So maybe the Saudi's used the insider influence and got the Bushies to get them out of the country and away from possible vigilante attacks.

However this is pretty much a very special privilege... and I don't see why they got it. Maybe they should have been held in protective custody in some hotel in DC ;-) instead.
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And if they refused protective custody?

I find it interesting how kjwins harps on the US becoming Nazi Germany yet appears more than happy to violate the civil rights of Bin Laden's family.

If I am not mistaken he wanted the NSA to detain people who had not committed a crime.
 
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