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9-11: Who did it?[W:1493]

There was no "faulty intel".

There was only politically based cherry picking from the spectrum of available intelligence.

Pardon my French, but Jeb is a lying sack of sh*t just like his brother was, and just like his father was, and just like his grandfather was.

This entire Bush family has been in bed with the Mafia from day one. Jeb's biggest donor is a Cuban billionaire (go figure on that one). Jeb was very likely involved in the murder of a CIA contract agent named Barry Seal, who used to fly cocaine in and out of Nicaragua (and other points in central America) for daddy.

Do not be fooled. There is no question of faulty intelligence, none whatsoever. The Neo-Cons "chose" to believe Ahmed Chalabi, a man discredited by every intelligence agency on the planet.

The Bush's are just like the Clintons, they think they're above the law and they're involved in all manner of shady and distasteful dealings.

A pox on both their houses.

Citation?
 
It was but that doesn't mean that THEY engineered 9/11. The MIC is a collection of thousands of corporations which are in biz to make money. Some compete with each other others not. It's unlikely that the corps of the MIC got together and planned 9/11.. that is the CEOs and boards... But I am sure that they saw the opportunity for profit and went for it big time.

Indeed they did.... They made money.

So did the makers of MREs. And the makers of bandages. Cargo carriers. Transport service. UPS. The makers of anti malarial drugs and other drugs, Etc.

Everyone who had a military contract at the time probably saw some boost.

It changes those guilty of 9/11 not one iota.
 
And lets not forget that the War on Terror and even the Iraq adventure were not actually all that good for business for the really big defense contractors.

Indeed.

Additionally some forget (or more likely never knew) the dreaded PNAC actually suggested cutting high dollar super carriers and gazillion dollar aircraft.
 
And lets not forget that the War on Terror and even the Iraq adventure were not actually all that good for business for the really big defense contractors.

Sure Mark, they make a ton more money in peacetime.

 
Many conversations were about setting a government that would gain from the oil and we would gain with the war profiteering and eutopia created by us --- I never said we got oil yet they knew there would lots of oil money to be spent on what they thought would be a mission to set up American interests that would bring great profits to a few.

Please do not put words in my mouth ...

As I said there is just something very disturbing about many components.

So we were planning a government that would gain from the oil and instead of the oil we get war profiteering.

OK
 
Sure Mark, they make a ton more money in peacetime.



Ocne again Bob, you miss the point in your rush to take a jab.

How many more F-22's did L-M sell thanks to the War on Terror?

Oh right, production was cut short at about half of the originally projected buy. No needy for a stealthy air superiority fighter when the enemy are cave-dwelling with AK's.

How about Bush's really big program from the early months of his presidency - ballistic missile defense? That lost a lot of momentum when the focus changed from the Axis of Evil to the War on Terror.

Sure, small wars are good for the little guys who make boots, uniforms, web gear, MRE's, tires and up-armor kits for HUMVEE's - but its lousy for the kind of big-ticket items the major MIC players count on for their bread and butter.
 
So we were planning a government that would gain from the oil and instead of the oil we get war profiteering.

OK

Don't you remember Georgie boy telling us that the oil would pay for the war. What ever happen to that & why did it cost US tax payers 1 trillion dollars. Lets not forget about Dick & his Halliburton stock. He made a few cool millions. Give it up their war criminals.
 
Don't you remember Georgie boy telling us that the oil would pay for the war. What ever happen to that & why did it cost US tax payers 1 trillion dollars. Lets not forget about Dick & his Halliburton stock. He made a few cool millions. Give it up their war criminals.

Good question.

What did happen to all the oil.

Oh, that's right. We allowed the new Iraqi government free determination and they chose everyone but the US for oil contracts.....

Darn that freedom of choice.

So, what war crimes have they been convicted of?
 
Don't you remember Georgie boy telling us that the oil would pay for the war. What ever happen to that & why did it cost US tax payers 1 trillion dollars. Lets not forget about Dick & his Halliburton stock. He made a few cool millions. Give it up their war criminals.

How?

Please tell me.

(CLUE: Look when he SOLD the stock)

Making **** up again.
 
Bush's gambit was a beast of a different nature, though. The end result of it was the Patriot Act, meaning the surveillance and whatnot. If you're suggesting that the whole purpose was to keep the MIC going, I'd probably differ, IMO there was more to it than that. (Although it would certainly be fair to say that 9/11 was the best thing to happen to the MIC since Vietnam).

It was about craving up the middle east. Setting up a Free Market economy in Iraq, & yes mass surveillance. According to Drake they were collecting data right after 9/11. How much money was & is made on surveillance in the US? What contractors are getting that money, as the country goes into the ****er. What has all this surveillance done to stop terror? Nothing. If you keep people scared, they are easier to control & you can take away their rights.

Remember Georgie boy telling us to go shopping & travel. What a joke. As for the MIC, we supply 79% of the worlds arms. I don't think they are going to have a problem anytime soon.
 
Good question.

What did happen to all the oil.

Oh, that's right. We allowed the new Iraqi government free determination and they chose everyone but the US for oil contracts.....

Darn that freedom of choice.

So, what war crimes have they been convicted of?

So are you telling me that Exon, Chevron, Shell, BP & Mobil had nothing to do with Iraq's oil? Those are multinational corporations, not just US. Really Then why did we pay for the war.

Why was our military guarding oil fields from day one, & poppy fields in Afghanistan?

So your telling me Cheney didn't make a dime on that war. WOW you need to get out of your Bush Bubble.
 
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Getting out of the Bush Bubble? For some that will never happen.
 
And the bodies? Engines? Shanksville?

You know, in North Carolina, outside Seymour Johnson AFB there is an F-105, I think it's a 105, anyway there is a fighter that's buried in the ground. Pilot went nose first into the big green ball ball they cannot recover the aircraft or his remains. Just went right in. Wet, soggy ground, fast moving heavy machine...

If you were to have walked up on that even an hour after it happened, you wouldn't know a plane crash happened there. Think about that.
 
Cheney's stock?

Seek & you shall find. But you don't want to know. Were you a good little boy & go shopping & travel after 9/11. I bet you did. Did you buy a house & get in massive amounts of debt on those low interest rates. Got to keep the global pyramid scheme going.
 
Ocne again Bob, you miss the point in your rush to take a jab.

No I got the point with the first post of yours I responded to, always defending the US government (totally intertwined with the MIC) and never, ever questioning it.

Sure, small wars are good for the little guys who make boots, uniforms, web gear, MRE's, tires and up-armor kits for HUMVEE's - but its lousy for the kind of big-ticket items the major MIC players count on for their bread and butter.

Sure, they lose tons of money manufacturing all sorts of WMDs. Especially when these are dropped relentlessly on innocent people. They make much more money during peacetime. They should all be bankrupt by now.
 
Seek & you shall find. But you don't want to know. Were you a good little boy & go shopping & travel after 9/11. I bet you did. Did you buy a house & get in massive amounts of debt on those low interest rates. Got to keep the global pyramid scheme going.

TRANSLATION: Make another BS claim. Got caught. Lacks honesty to say so.
 
TRANSLATION: Make another BS claim. Got caught. Lacks honesty to say so.

TRANSLATION: I.m pining for the good old Bush days. So I say locked in my Bush Bubble. Dude this stuff is old news, only people that watch Fox News & want to believe the lie, think like you.
 
No I got the point with the first post of yours I responded to, always defending the US government (totally intertwined with the MIC) and never, ever questioning it.

Sure, they lose tons of money manufacturing all sorts of WMDs. Especially when these are dropped relentlessly on innocent people. They make much more money during peacetime. They should all be bankrupt by now.

Again with the naval tactics. Never mind.
 
TRANSLATION: I.m pining for the good old Bush days. So I say locked in my Bush Bubble. Dude this stuff is old news, only people that watch Fox News & want to believe the lie, think like you.

TRANSLATION: Got caught posting BS. Refuses to acknowledge. Refuses to retract.

Real truth seeker here.
 
TRANSLATION: Got caught posting BS. Refuses to acknowledge. Refuses to retract.

Real truth seeker here.

Just keep watching the Fox Terror Network bro, you're doing just fine. I,m sure if you watch that crap everyone seems like a liar. Maybe one day you will find the right Prick to break that bubble. Sorry I can't be that Prick.

TRANSLATION: Your OK dude, I kinda like you, & will always love you.
 
I am curious about the WMDs dropped "relentlessly" on innocent people.

I suspect a trutherdefinition rather than the normal definition.

Oh, and the slur against our military is noted.

I care about that a lot less than the very predictable total derail and evasion. Heaven forbid he should stay on-topic for more than one post.
 
Just keep watching the Fox Terror Network bro, you're doing just fine. I,m sure if you watch that crap everyone seems like a liar. Maybe one day you will find the right Prick to break that bubble. Sorry I can't be that Prick.

TRANSLATION: Your OK dude, I kinda like you, & will always love you.

Look at all the irrelevant nonsense thrown up instead of admitting Cheney had divested himself of Halliburton stock long before 911.

Just jumped from simple ignorance to blatant dishonesty.
 
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