To American patriot, defender of liberty, protector of the weak, all-around good guy:
I'm teacher, of the Colossal Brain, Lord and Master of all I Survey, DP's most Favorite Asshole and most Creative Poster, CIC of the Monkey Army, God of Smack, Champion of Copy/Paste, Holder of Billo's Leash, the Perfect Libertarian, Rememberer of Stuff, Basement Warden, Scourage of Paris, Knower of all Things, Distributer of the Basement VIP Lounge Keys, Spreader of the Contagion, a Snappy Dresser, Holder of the Fortune Teller, Grand Poobah of Debate Politics.
I'm an agent from a secret soviet intelligence network. Burn! :lol:
Here are some comrades from my unit:
http://www.itsallpolitics.com/9-11-conspiracy-revealed-vt11112.html
http://www.starsiege2845.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12653
http://www.politicsandcurrentaffairs.co.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=13227
http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5516
http://www.scienceforums.net/forums/showthread.php?t=18608&page=3#52
http://www.politicsforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=56202#847727
And I really, really don't like people who claim my country did this.
Your country has been hijacked by criminals.
They've stolen your rights and freedoms,
they've murdered thousands of your countrymen,
they've sent kids to die in some foresaken war,
and they've gotten rich off of it.
Now would be a good time to do something about it.
Steel loses integrity at 1000 F.
Aviation fuel started a structure fire. Average structure fires (house)temps can go above 1800 F. at ceiling height.
Kevin Ryan (from Underwriters Laboratories, the company that certified steel components used in WTC) sent a letter to Frank Gale at the National Institute of Standards and Technology:
"We know that the components were certified to ASTM E119.
Time-Temperature Curves from this standard required samples to be exposed to temperatures around 2000*F for several hours.
And as we all agree, the steel applied met those specifications.
Additionally, I think we can all agree even un-fireproofed steel will not melt until reaching red-hot temperatures reaching nearly 3000*F."
That's from the people who certified the steel themselves.
- WTC5 and WTC6 were much closer to the Twin Towers
- WTC5 and WTC6 had raging fires
- they had much thinner steel beams
- but they did not collapse despite all this
- instead, WTC7 collapsed 7 hours after the Twin Towers
You have determined that how?
By comparison.
WTC7 (fell):
http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/wtc7b.JPG
WTC5 (stood):
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/docs/wtc5_fire_floors.jpg
- it collapsed by freefall (first 100 meters in 4.5 seconds)
Oh my friggin God. You're one of those guys?
Yes, one of them... because I know physics.
d = distance = first 100 meters
a = acceleration = gravity (freefall) = 9.8 m/s/s
t = time to reach 100 meters
d = at^2 / 2
100 = 9.8(t^2) / 2
200 = 9.8(t^2)
20.41 = t^2
squareroot 20.41 = t
4.5 = t
WTC7 fell 100 meters in 4.5 seconds, therefore it was in freefall.
You need to familiarize yourself with the unique counterlever construction of WTC #7 that led to it's demise.
What? The other 76 beams were actually made of chocolate?
- WTC5 and WTC6 had raging fires but did not collapse despite much thinner steel beams
The towers didn't collapse?
American - can you read?
If not, please find an English man.
Ask him to tell you where is "building 5" and "building 6" in this picture:
No steel building had ever been constructed like the towers or had so much stucture even before a fire destoyed by planes flying into the friggin building.
July 28, 1945 - a B-52 bomber lost in the fog crashed into the 79th floor of the Empire State Building.
The Empire State Building was built in 1931. It did not collapse.
And yet the WTC - a modern building, which was designed to withstand an aircraft crash - collapsed.
To jfuh:
3) I'd have to see a credible source for this one.
4) This is very very very simple. Sulfur is abundant in many polymers as well as a variety of cleaning agents, and finally, sulfur is also found in jet fuel. Jet fuel "melts" (weaken would be a better term) steel beams, hmmm sulfer in steel beams.
PHOTOS AND EXPLANATION:
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/metallurgy/index.html ------>
The FEMA report titled World Trade Center Building Performance Study, Appendix C ... “Limited Metallurgical Examination”, shows evidence of explosives used, by way of photographs, microscopic, and chemical examination. They do not draw this conclusion though. Instead, the authors write ... “Evidence of a severe high temperature corrosion attack on the steel, including oxidation and sulfidation with subsequent intergranular melting, was readily visible in the near-surface microstructure.”... “The thinning of the steel occurred by high temperature corrosion due to a combination of oxidation and sulfidation.”...
The FEMA report can now be found at
http://www.civil.columbia.edu/ce4210/FEMA_403CD/html/open.htm
It's just so ridiculous. Look - here's the OFFICIAL STORY + SOME LOOPHOLES:
Terrorists from Saudi Arabia trained by Osama hijack planes.
One plane crashes into the Pentagon, dissappearing completely, making a tiny hole.
For no reason, FBI then confiscate all 4 known tapes of the Pentagon crash.
Another plane crashes in the middle of nowhere, leaving no remains.
9:59 AM - South Tower collapses to the ground in aproximatly 10 seconds.
10:28 AM - North Tower collapses to the ground in approximatly 10 seconds.
Later, at 5:30 PM - World Trade centre 7 suddenly collapses for no reason.
South Tower was hit last and only by its corner but collapsed FIRST,
while North Tower was hit first and directly at centre but collapsed SECOND.
7 of 8 blackboxes (made of stainless steel and high-temp-insulated silica) are destroyed,
BUT one of the terrorist's passports (made of paper) somehow flew out of his pocket,
out of the burning inferno, on to the streets below, where it was found somehow by FBI amidst all the panic.
Steel leftovers are then rushed out of the country and to the smelters (FEMA got only a little time).
Then US Army invades Afghanistan to hunt for Osama, but gets nowhere.
Then US Army invades Iraq to prevent a WMD attack (even though the invasion gives them all the reason to use the WMD's).
The WMD's are then never found (supposedly suicidal terrorists would rather die in battle and give Bush look stupid than to use WMD's to defend themselves), and everyone forgets about Osama.
Just imagine the conversation they had in Iraq:
SADDAM: "Shiite shiite! The Americans are coming!"
SOME GUY: "Should we use the WMD's to defend ourselves?"
SADDAM: "No, smuggle the WMD's over the border so we have no way of using them."
SOME GUY: "AYE AYE!"
SADDAM: "Buahahah... Bush will look like an idiot for coming here. Stupid infidels!"
SOME GUY: "Allah akbhar! Allah akbhar! Allah akbhar!"
How stupid can a person be? =/