disneydude
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Yep, we can find studies that will produce any results we want.
How many of a certain type of person felt like taking the survey?
Is it pressure from soldiers which throws this issue into the spotlight? Or is it from the usual political suspects who, whenever they gain their 'last territorial demand' always go on to demand more anyway?
Why not poll all troops and see what they think, region by region and state by state. Those companies and platoons who want gays to join their ranks can have them and those for whom homosexuality is distasteful can reject them.
Simple really.
As for your other suggestion.....not in America where we value freedom and equality.
You mean democracy? Liberals at the Senate are more valuable than soldiers, who can't be trusted to run their own minds and who must be forced to take what they don't like.
Alright to be sent out to die though.
The overwhelming majority of the military say that they believe lifting the ban will have a positive influence.
THE army came out in style this weekend when it launched a recruitment drive aimed at tempting more gays, lesbians, transvestites and even transsexuals into the ranks.
Couldn't tell you that until you tell me what "a certain type" is.How many of a certain type of person felt like taking the survey?
Is it pressure from soldiers which throws this issue into the spotlight? Or is it from the usual political suspects who, whenever they gain their 'last territorial demand' always go on to demand more anyway?
Why not poll all troops and see what they think, region by region and state by state. Those companies and platoons who want gays to join their ranks can have them and those for whom homosexuality is distasteful can reject them.
Simple really.
You mean democracy? Liberals at the Senate are more valuable than soldiers, who can't be trusted to run their own minds and who must be forced to take what they don't like.
Alright to be sent out to die though.
Yeah, with your picked evidence. As liberals tell me, you have have to wonder at the circumstances. Maybe it's an accurate result, maybe it isn't. But it's inaccurate to label 'homosceptics' as bigots just because they don't find sex perverts very appetising.
There seem to be two sides to every story though:
'Gays in army responsible for genocide' claims retired U.S. general | Mail Online
Serious Doubts Over Gays In Army
But where will it end? Knowing the liberals, it won't stop at 'ordinary' non-discrept homos. It'll be the prancing sickos next, as found in the old 'mother country':
Dad's Pooves on parade for gay recruits for 'Queen's Army' - Times Online
Whatever would Captain Mainwaring say?!
The enemy will be p****ng themselves alright - through laughter rather than fear!
Couldn't tell you that until you tell me what "a certain type" is.
Would you have said the same thing during the civil rights movement? Those dang blacks! First we let them vote, and then they went and demanded they attend the same schools!!
70% think things will be fine, but you seem to think their opinion is wrong.
Prancing sickos. Listen to yourself. You don't even hide your hatred. Have fun in the 19th century.
70% of soldiers polled isn't the same as 70% of the army. But if such a figure is accurate it only encourages liberals. Which is why I say that if anyone should vote on the repeal it should be the soldiers. All this affects them.
Gays always could vote as far as I'm aware (when they were out of jail). And unless they've abused a chemistry set, they've no kids to attend school. There are plenty of laws against persecuting homosexuals. Now there's one coming to foist them on soldiers, whether individual platoons or companies want them or not. And that's fascist.
No, I asked a question of the survey. A huge swing away from the 95% article there. But as I say, let the Senate institute something along the lines of what I suggested and let the troops have who they want with them.
What are the liberal ******s afraid of? The 'wrong' results?!
Yes, they are. Out comes the smear and invalidation against someone with an alternative point of view.
(And if a hip-shaking transvestite queening about the parade ground isn't some kind of sick weirdo, I don't know what is!)
Statistics does not require you to survey an entire group.
Good god, you even used a monty python skit to support your hate.
I'm not afraid of the results because I already know what they'll be, plus or minus a couple percent.
Gays are forced to hide who they are to stay in the military, straights are not.
Gays have little or no marriage rights in most states.
No, because that's against regulations already and nobody's asking for anything of the sort.
...own personal fear and hatred...
That's your definition of live and let live?
Don't hide behind history.
Why do YOU want homosexuals to have fewer rights?
They're legal and can do whatever they please, within reason. The only real fig leaf they have is that their activities are usually between consenting adults.
I didn't say anything about 'prescribed by me'. You'll read that more than once I said the soldiers should be allowed to decide who they have in their squads and divisions, not politicians.
I wouldn't have thought so, not if they don't get up to anything creepy.
But it brings us back to the Don't Ask compromise. If gays don't act it then there's no problem to arise.
If a black guy in a unit acts like a 'gansgsta' then he'd be disciplined.
Army rules governing behaviour are typically there for discipline, morale and order. And as I say, if the issue is that important, then let the soldiers decide. Academic what I think after that.
No, that's yours.
That's sad. No, that's taking the fire out of a debate that. Saps the spirit to say that. Those who disregard history are doomed to repeat it.
They're legal and can do whatever they please, within reason. The only real fig leaf they have is that their activities are usually between consenting adults.
Nice dodge.
Why are you deserving of special treatment?
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