KidRocks
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gdalton said:How can this be blamed on Bush?
FinnMacCool said:You scared the **** out of me. I thought that was american soldiers killed. Not that it makes it any better thats horrible. Absolutely horrible. This just shows how scared these people are and thats not good for us either.
KidRocks said:Sorry, didn't mean to, but I used the same headline from the article.
695 dead American troops would be horrific news indeed, would just about end any chances for a safe and speedy withdrawal next year. It would also end the Republicans chances to hold on to congress and the White House.
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - More than 800 Iraqi Shi'ites died in a stampede over a Baghdad bridge provoked by rumours of a suicide bomber on Wednesday, and an official said the death toll was expected to reach 1,000.
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The swarming crowds had been heading to a religious ceremony at the Kadhimiya mosque in the old district of north Baghdad when someone shouted there was a suicide bomber among them, a police source said.
"Hundreds of people started running and some threw themselves off the bridge into the river," the source said.
KidRocks said:Not blaming Bush on this one although a case could probably be built for one.
I'm just pointing out the fact that things are not going well in Iraq despite the massive American presence. Not well at all!
Calm2Chaos said:These people have the mentallity of cattle and thats anyones fault but there own? MOOOOOOOOO right off a cliff
DivineComedy said:How do you know that those people support suicide bombers dressed in civilian disguise in violation of the rules of warfare?
The people responsible for this are:
1) Those terrorists that deliberately targeted a religious shrine in violation of the Geneva Convention rules of warfare, in that Iraq is a High Contracting Party;
2) Saddam’s supporters that were supporting suicide bombings before the war in violations of the rules of warfare and the cease-fire obligations under international laws:
“March 5, 2003: Bus bombing in Haifa. U.S. citizens killed: Abigail Leitel, 14, who was born in Lebanon, New Hampshire.” http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/usvictims.html
“The suicide bomber was 20 years old, a student of the Hebron Polytechnic University (from which a large number of suicide bombers have emerged) and a member of the Hamas terrorist organization.” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/861590/posts
March 13, 2003: “(CBS) Saddam Hussein has distributed $260,000 to 26 families of Palestinians killed in 29 months of fighting with Israel, including a $10,000 check to the family of a Hamas suicide bomber.
In a packed banquet hall on Wednesday, the families came one-by-one to receive their $10,000 checks. A large banner said: ‘The Arab Baath Party Welcomes the Families of the Martyrs for the Distribution of Blessings of Saddam Hussein.’“ http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/03/14/world/main543981.shtml
“Recalling that in its resolution 687 (1991) the Council declared that a ceasefire would be based on acceptance by Iraq of the provisions of that resolution, including the obligations on Iraq contained therein,” http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/11/08/resolution.text/
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32. Requires Iraq to inform the Security Council that it will not commit or support any act of international terrorism or allow any organization directed towards commission of such acts to operate within its territory and to condemn unequivocally and renounce all acts, methods and practices of terrorism;
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33. Declares that, upon official notification by Iraq to the Secretary-General and to the Security Council of its acceptance of the provisions above, a formal cease-fire is effective between Iraq and Kuwait and the Member States cooperating with Kuwait in accordance with resolution 678 (1990);” http://www.fas.org/news/un/iraq/sres/sres0687.htm
I do not think there is any report that the Iraqis saw George Bush’s face in the crowd, and stampeded because of a fear of what the traitor Cindy Sheehan called “The biggest terrorist in the world,” so thank God that George Bush has not shown up to talk to that treasonous woman Cindy Sheehan. Those treasonous Cindy Sheehan hypocrites are the only people on earth that deserve to stampede to their death.
When I enlisted I swore an oath to obey all lawful orders, so if George Bush is “The biggest terrorist in the world,” everyone in the chain of command that follows those orders are a terrorist. Cindy Sheehan and her supporters are traitors or it makes our troops criminals, those are the only two choices. Since I know that Saddam supported terrorism in violation of the laws, and the existing laws authorized the actions of this Member State, therefore our troops are not criminals.
Let us blame the real criminals, their supporters, and their appeasers for the deaths of those Iraqis.
Calm2Chaos said:Sounded like you did to me... Are you so desperate you blame this on the President? How utterly pathetic. These people have the mentallity of cattle and thats anyones fault but there own? MOOOOOOOOO right off a cliff
A bomb blow up in Atlanta few years back in a crowd of 1000's. Maybe you remeber that, it was called the olympics. And in that huge crowd of people there were not almost a 1000 people killed for no reason. And they actually had a bomb. Ya know what I am sorry people died. But to blame this on anybody but them or the terrorist is assinine.Bergslagstroll said:You seem to be really nice guy, then people are extremly scared of atacks and there trying to despretly get away from a threat they certainly think is real ,they are according to you cattle. And that Bush havn't been able to stop the terrorist atacks, that even happen earlier the same day as the atack has nothing to do it. I don't ask you to be against the war but maybee you could care about the consevence abit more...
Calm2Chaos said:These people have the mentallity of cattle and thats anyones fault but there own? MOOOOOOOOO right off a cliff
vergiss said:That's disgusting. I don't blame it on Bush, but to say something like that is sick.
Calm2Chaos said:Whats sick?
I was describing the mentality of people that only heard something and jumped off a bridge to avoid it.
Not sure how that was sick
Calm2Chaos said:A bomb blow up in Atlanta few years back in a crowd of 1000's. Maybe you remeber that, it was called the olympics. And in that huge crowd of people there were not almost a 1000 people killed for no reason. And they actually had a bomb. Ya know what I am sorry people died. But to blame this on anybody but them or the terrorist is assinine.
Bergslagstroll said:First of all I think it is a big diffrence from a crowded bridge and a big park also the people of Atlandt didn't have had over hundred bombsatacks in around 2 years before that bomb. Also if Bush send troops to a country and 1000 gets killed could he then blame it all on the evil enemy that fired back?
Because yes the terrorist have the ultimate responsible for death, that is nothing to argue about, but if you "liberate" a country you should have the responsible to keep both your own casualities and the civilian causalties down. Of course it can be hard in the war part then you don't have the control over the country, but even then is it something you have to count in and weight into the cost of the war. And then you like in Iraq have secured the country you should minimize the death and also have the responsibility to keep them down.
A good example is my country Sweden we don't have a big army but we could probably kick the but of some African dictature and his army, but probably have no means to stabilize the country. So could we still atack that country and then it turns into anarchy and people is getting killed say hey it not our fault it is the evil terrorist?
FinnMacCool said:Why should we care so much about freeing the Iraqi people if, as you put it, they have the "mentality of cattle"? Is this the war on the middle east or the war on terrorism? Are we heroes or are we assholes?
Calm2Chaos said:Sounded like you did to me... Are you so desperate you blame this on the President? How utterly pathetic. These people have the mentallity of cattle and thats anyones fault but there own? MOOOOOOOOO right off a cliff
These people have the mentallity of cattle
You are one sick puppy!MOOOOOOOOO?
KidRocks said:Pathetic is you pal with your dispicable generalization of Iraqi's.
You are one sick puppy!
Calm2Chaos said:Nope .. sorry you can try your dammdest to place blame on other people. BUt the ones soley responsible for this were those on the bridge and the terorrist.. No one else
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