50 Shades of America

[Whythink]

Last night was an amazing episode. Not sure if others are watching.
Great discussion on Chicago violence.

I have no answers. I have opinions. Just curious what people are thinking.

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[countryboy]

Last night was an amazing episode. Not sure if others are watching.
Great discussion on Chicago violence.

I have no answers. I have opinions. Just curious what people are thinking.

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Link?

 

[Whythink]

Link?

United Shades of America - CNN.com

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[AtlantaAdonis]

America needs to come to grips with the history of slavery, segregation, and du jour and de facto systemic racism. Then start rebuilding inner city communities.

 

[ajn678]

America needs to come to grips with the history of slavery, segregation, and du jour and de facto systemic racism. Then start rebuilding inner city communities.

How do we go about rebuilding the communities?

 

[AtlantaAdonis]

How do we go about rebuilding the communities?

 

[Whythink]

Last night was an amazing episode. Not sure if others are watching.
Great discussion on Chicago violence.

I have no answers. I have opinions. Just curious what people are thinking.

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Btw, not sure what the 50 Shades is all about.

Correct title: United Shades of America

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[countryboy]

I don't think a hunnert bucks is gonna do it.

 

[ajn678]

So just keep pumping money into it? That's a pretty ****ty plan.

 

[Whythink]

So just keep pumping money into it? That's a pretty ****ty plan.

$$% has been cut. Everything but cops have been cut.

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[Geoist]

How do we go about rebuilding the communities?

1. Tax land, not buildings. Doing so will remove the incentive to leave land idle and encourage productivity.
2. Have a percentage of the land tax revenue returned to the community's citizens. This will help offset the effects of gentrification.
3. Reduce other taxes including income, sales, and payroll taxes. This will attract businesses to the cities.
4. Legalize marijuana. Doing this would be a huge blow to the underground drug trade, help free up resources in law enforcement, and be an additional revenue source.

Not comprehensive but it is a start.

 

[ajn678]

$$% has been cut. Everything but cops have been cut.

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Your user name is accurate. What does pumping money into these areas actually do?

 

[Whythink]

Your user name is accurate. What does pumping money into these areas actually do?

What does cutting basics services and education do?

950 murders 2016-today.

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[ajn678]

1. Tax land, not buildings. Doing so will remove the incentive to leave land idle and encourage productivity.
2. Have a percentage of the land tax revenue returned to the community's citizens. This will help offset the effects of gentrification.
3. Reduce other taxes including income, sales, and payroll taxes. This will attract businesses to the cities.
4. Legalize marijuana. Doing this would be a huge blow to the underground drug trade, help free up resources in law enforcement, and be an additional revenue source.

Not comprehensive but it is a start.

1. There is no incentive to build in these low income neighborhoods. Businesses aren't going to just start building in unsafe areas because they can make a few more cents.
2. Most of the community in these areas already are on government assistance/ don't pay any income tax to begin with.
3. Again, this isn't true.
4. The only thing on the list that might help. However, once the profitability to sell marijuana illegally is gone, these same people will move on to selling harder drugs, or just continue with robbery or other criminal acts.

 

[ajn678]

What does cutting basics services and education do?

950 murders 2016-today.

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So not having free money is an excuse to murder people? Seems reasonable.

 

[volsrock]

America needs to come to grips with the history of slavery, segregation, and du jour and de facto systemic racism. Then start rebuilding inner city communities.

Blacks need to come to grips and realize slavery was 150 years ago AND DROP THE GD PITY CARD...nobody in America alive now had anything to do with it ...and most in America now didnt have anything to do with the 60s..ITS HISTORY!!!


JUST DROP IT GET OVER IT MY GOD

I dont here Indians screaming about the 1800s




rebuilding the communities?

Blacks can start in Chicago ...o yeah they cant stop shootin long enough

 

[apdst]

Haven't we tried that?

 

[Whythink]

So not having free money is an excuse to murder people? Seems reasonable.

Of course not, don't be ignorant.

It isn't about free money it is about equal opportunity.

Focusing on school. When equal budget cuts happen to an affluent school and an impoverished school, whom is likely to be impacted most?

Affluent districts overcome much of the cuts through fundraising. Schools with high poverty cannot.

After the cuts, we all act shocked that poorly educated people living in poverty misbehave.

I have no idea what it is like to live in a state of desperation. The violence is wrong, but so is the refusal to provide an equal education. I believe it is a worthy investment.


Btw, did you watch the show?

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[Whythink]

Blacks need to come to grips and realize slavery was 150 years ago AND DROP THE GD PITY CARD...nobody in America alive now had anything to do with it ...and most in America now didnt have anything to do with the 60s..ITS HISTORY!!!


JUST DROP IT GET OVER IT MY GOD

I dont here Indians screaming about the 1800s




rebuilding the communities?

Blacks can start in Chicago ...o yeah they cant stop shootin long enough

Yep, get over slavery and segregation. Problem solved.

#whythink

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[Port & Starboard]

Of course not, don't be ignorant.

It isn't about free money it is about equal opportunity.

Focusing on school. When equal budget cuts happen to an affluent school and an impoverished school, whom is likely to be impacted most?

Affluent districts overcome much of the cuts through fundraising. Schools with high poverty cannot.

After the cuts, we all act shocked that poorly educated people living in poverty misbehave.

I have no idea what it is like to live in a state of desperation. The violence is wrong, but so is the refusal to provide an equal education. I believe it is a worthy investment.


Btw, did you watch the show?

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The money doesn't explain the violence inside the Chicago school grounds on a daily basis.

The schools are there, the teachers are there, and yet they need police precincts on school grounds.

All the money in the world isn't going to help one bit until the inner city kids refuse to participate in the culture of violence.

 

[Vox]

Last night was an amazing episode. Not sure if others are watching.
Great discussion on Chicago violence.

I have no answers. I have opinions. Just curious what people are thinking.

It's a racist show, trading in and making profit by exploiting hatred and envy of white people

:2usflag:

 

[Geoist]

1. There is no incentive to build in these low income neighborhoods. Businesses aren't going to just start building in unsafe areas because they can make a few more cents.

There is certainly incentive, otherwise there wouldn't be any businesses in the low income neighborhoods. The right tax incentives would pull at least a few more businesses in.

2. Most of the community in these areas already are on government assistance/ don't pay any income tax to begin with.

When middle-upper class moves back in to the city and gentrifies the area, many lower-middle to lower class people are priced out of the area. A citizen's dividend would help these residents keep their homes if they wish.

3. Again, this isn't true.

Lower taxes attracts business. This is Economics 101.

4. The only thing on the list that might help. However, once the profitability to sell marijuana illegally is gone, these same people will move on to selling harder drugs, or just continue with robbery or other criminal acts.

They may very well do so. And that is part of the argument for doing away with the Drug War altogether. However, I do think even just targeting mj would make a tremendous impact.

 

[Whythink]

It's a racist show, trading in and making profit by exploiting hatred and envy of white people

:2usflag:

So the episode at the KKK rally was exploiting whom?

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[ajn678]

Of course not, don't be ignorant.

It isn't about free money it is about equal opportunity.

Focusing on school. When equal budget cuts happen to an affluent school and an impoverished school, whom is likely to be impacted most?

Affluent districts overcome much of the cuts through fundraising. Schools with high poverty cannot.

After the cuts, we all act shocked that poorly educated people living in poverty misbehave.

I have no idea what it is like to live in a state of desperation. The violence is wrong, but so is the refusal to provide an equal education. I believe it is a worthy investment.


Btw, did you watch the show?

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No I didn't watch the show, what you linked to was a video that was about 2 minutes long. The whole thing is only available to customers of certain cable providers. For some reason Time Warner isn't on there. I do plan to watch it on demand when its available though as I am curious about how wrong he can be in the episode.

 

[jdog]

Last night was an amazing episode. Not sure if others are watching.
Great discussion on Chicago violence.

I have no answers. I have opinions. Just curious what people are thinking.

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At this point, the situation is so out of control, it is going to take the government to embark on a mission of mass murder as they did in the 30's to just gun down all the "gangsters" in order to end the violence. Unfortunately, the only answer to violence, is often greater violence.