5 Political Ideologies Explained Through Trash Removal (lighthearted and chill thread)

[OlNate]

I found this on the interwebs today, and thought I'd share it. Have a look, it's not overly long or edgy, i don't find it particularly mean to any of the ideologies discussed.



I had to laugh at the last bit, "**** it, i don't care anymore" is my resting face these days.. hehe... until the next thing, of course.

To me, progressivism is not a lean, it's a methodology that any lean could employ.

Any takers for a chill debate on this? Do you think the video is accurate? I feel like it portrays progressivism in a favorable light, but that's because I'm a progressive. Do people who identify otherwise think their lean was well represented?

And most importantly, how would *you* get rid of the garbage in this scenario?

 

[Bok Tuklo]

Brilliant!

 

[Bok Tuklo]

I found this on the interwebs today, and thought I'd share it. Have a look, it's not overly long or edgy, i don't find it particularly mean to any of the ideologies discussed.



I had to laugh at the last bit, "**** it, i don't care anymore" is my resting face these days.. hehe... until the next thing, of course.

To me, progressivism is not a lean, it's a methodology that any lean could employ.

Any takers for a chill debate on this? Do you think the video is accurate? I feel like it portrays progressivism in a favorable light, but that's because I'm a progressive. Do people who identify otherwise think their lean was well represented?

And most importantly, how would *you* get rid of the garbage in this scenario?

It is caricature. Which is fine but satire is not reality. Many people are fluid within those groups. I consider myself leftist-conservative-progressive-libertarian-liberal in that order in that vid with varying degrees of dominance. We all vacillate.

 

[Fearandloathing]

I found this on the interwebs today, and thought I'd share it. Have a look, it's not overly long or edgy, i don't find it particularly mean to any of the ideologies discussed.



I had to laugh at the last bit, "**** it, i don't care anymore" is my resting face these days.. hehe... until the next thing, of course.

To me, progressivism is not a lean, it's a methodology that any lean could employ.

Any takers for a chill debate on this? Do you think the video is accurate? I feel like it portrays progressivism in a favorable light, but that's because I'm a progressive. Do people who identify otherwise think their lean was well represented?

And most importantly, how would *you* get rid of the garbage in this scenario?

Duh............

There's a big empty ocean right behind them.

Feed the fish!

 

[reinaert]

Captured the liberal submission to conservative framing well.

 

[OlNate]

It is caricature. Which is fine but satire is not reality. Many people are fluid within those groups. I consider myself leftist-conservative-progressive-libertarian-liberal in that order in that vid with varying degrees of dominance. We all vacillate.

Hehe... I agree, it is an oversimplification - a parable, if you will.

I think the thing about being progressive, though, is that you don't have to be any particular lean to engage in it, or even be of one lean at all.

 

[OlNate]

Duh............

There's a big empty ocean right behind them.

Feed the fish!

 

[Bok Tuklo]

Hehe... I agree, it is an oversimplification - a parable, if you will.

I think the thing about being progressive, though, is that you don't have to be any particular lean to engage in it, or even be of one lean at all.

My dominate political philosophy is pragmatism. Something either works or it doesn’t. Ideology is anathema to me. My opinion is most people agree. The problem we have as a species is those in power, or those trying to gain power, work very hard against that. They do not want things to work except in those instances where it helps them personally. If non-functioning aids them, they support actions that ensures non-functioning.

 

[aociswundumho]

My dominate political philosophy is pragmatism. Something either works or it doesn’t. Ideology is anathema to me. My opinion is most people agree.

Do they? Most people can’t even agree on what needs fixing.

 

[OlNate]

My dominate political philosophy is pragmatism. Something either works or it doesn’t. Ideology is anathema to me. My opinion is most people agree. The problem we have as a species is those in power, or those trying to gain power, work very hard against that. They do not want things to work except in those instances where it helps them personally. If non-functioning aids them, they support actions that ensures non-functioning.

I would agree, this is definitely a north American problem, primarily due to prioritizing corporate interests over citizens. Goverment takes something that was working well, defund it, create massive inefficiencies, to where the public loses faith in the government's ability to run it, paving the way for privatization (credit to Noam Chomsky for that breakdown). After all, making rich lobbies happy is where the real money is at in politics.

I absolutely agree that the division we see today is birthed and vigorously nurtured by the political class, I've said the same since I really noticed it here starting in 2013, and in America starting around 2015. And why not? It is infinitely easier to get away with what I'm talking about in my first paragraph when everybody is too busy fighting each other to notice what their government is actually doing, and when "sides" forbid the scrutinization of those one supports. America is the poster boy for this phenomenon, but it can be seen most places, to some degree.

As a self described progressive, I find myself perpetually frustrated. I'm willing to do the work to figure out real solutions, I'm disciplined enough to scrutinize my own ideas, but the whole thing is moot, because I think progressivism is actually the most difficult ideology, so few bother to work within its definition.

 

[ttwtt78640]

It is caricature. Which is fine but satire is not reality. Many people are fluid within those groups. I consider myself leftist-conservative-progressive-libertarian-liberal in that order in that vid with varying degrees of dominance. We all vacillate.

I appreciate your firmly held positions and willingness to vacillate.

The perfect politician will promise to ‘fight like hell’ for all three sides of this very important issue, while being somewhat against it under certain (unnamed) circumstances, yet always remain willing to engage in compromise with the other side(s) for the good of the people.

 

[OlNate]

Do they? Most people can’t even agree on what needs fixing.

I think we're fooled into thinking we disagree on what needs fixing because we disagree on *how* we'd fix it.

Take school shootings. I think everyone would agree those suck, and that we'd like to see them go away. But, because of how the various ideologies approach solutions, suddenly there is no consensus at all on the entire issue. One side minimizes it, one side exaggerates it, others get called out by both sides for telling the truth. Suddenly we forget that we all think school shootings suck, and it becomes just another battle of ideologies, where the fight is so much more important than what we're fighting over.

At the end of the day I'd suggest that we all have similar desires, similar concerns, similar hopes and similar fears. We need food, we need shelter, we need a sense of purpose and belonging. We need to feel like we're in control of our life. We're not all that different in a lot of ways. We've just bought into the myth that the "others" are somehow different, and therefore they must be counter aligned to everything we want to see in the world - a threat.

I would suggest this is a deliberate marketing campaign, executed by those who benefit from our distracted mindset.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. The biggest revolutionary action we can take is to simply make room for one another and reject the assertion that we must hate one another for seeing the world differently, and that there can only be one way to live your life.