5 cops face manslaughter charges in shooting death of 15-year-old boy in Oklahoma

[bluesmoke]

Can you rephrase that? Are you saying he had no reason to search her?

The officer stated he had a duty to search. Still, it is at the discretion of the officer to do so. I don't believe there was compelling reason to do so because at that point it was an extremely low level encounter of no or little consequence. In Nashville, less than a half ounce of MJ is no longer prosecuted, though is punishable by up to 1 yr in jail and a $2,500 fine. Note the case in point is not that of the OP topic in particular.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Not wait for a weapon (gun) to be discharged. Wait for a what they believe is a gun to be produced.

There is no difference between the two. If you wait to see a gun you’ll be waiting to see what comes out of it.
Once your hand is on a weapon we’re talking only fractions of a second to fire.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Well, when some black driver tells the officer he has a gun and the officer, after making a traffic stop of they guy for about the driver's 43rd time, most tickets dismissed, shoots him to death while the dude is raising his hands, I can see where one can sympathize with the officer fearing for his life, saying as he explained the reason for the shooting being, in so many words, what can you think of somebody that was smoking marijuana with a five-year-old girl in the car, risking her lungs and her life by giving her second hand smoke.

Castille was not raising his hands. He was reaching around the car in violation of police commands after stating he was armed with a deadly weapon. The number of previous traffic stops and the dispositions of any tickets from those stops is not relevant.

 

[bluesmoke]

There is no difference between the two. If you wait to see a gun you’ll be waiting to see what comes out of it.
Once your hand is on a weapon we’re talking only fractions of a second to fire.

I'm not sure of what you're saying. How does one know that someone's hand is on a gun or what appears to be a gun until they see the hand is on what appears to be a gun?

 

[bluesmoke]

Castille was not raising his hands. He was reaching around the car in violation of police commands after stating he was armed with a deadly weapon. The number of previous traffic stops and the dispositions of any tickets from those stops is not relevant.

Yeah, right. The officer was honestly told by Castille that he was carrying a gun. Some seconds later, the officer said to not reach for the gun. The passenger, as the officer repeated himself, said Castille was not reaching for his gun. The officer fired anyway. There is no proof Castille was reaching for his gun. There is an eye witness that Castille was not reaching for his gun. Considering the additional fact the Castille had advised the officer of the gun, not something someone who was ready to shoot an officer would do before shooting them, I tend to believe the officer, to say the least, made a mistake.
Prior stops goes to state of mind. He was being as honest and careful as he could. It didn't work. Prior stops also go to selective stops due to race. None of this would happen but for the proclivity of police to pull over black people in cars.