4, 5 or 600,000 votes to still count in AZ?

[mike2810]

What's going on there? I think they need to fix their elections system.
Hopefully, a good percentage of these late votes are for Republicans.

You need to be more specific on what you think is wrong.

If you have a problem with the voting system in Arizona, take it up with the Republicans. The Republican State Legislature wrote the voting laws.

What is going on is they are following the law.

 

[anatta]

The entire AZ legislature is Republican controlled and they make the rules. The SOS deals with the process of enforcing those rules,

no need to instruct me on state legislature. The secretary of state has a conflict of intersst as she's also running for ofice

 

[mike2810]

Didn't they have some technical problems in some areas?

That was on election day. Some of the in person voting machines were printing the ballot to light. The tabulators could not read them properly. That was corrected within a few hours and voting continued. Those ballots that were not printed dark enough could be dropped in a secured box and processed at the main election site, voter could go to another polling place, or wait till the printer issue was fixed.

Anyone wanting to vote was able to vote and it was or is being counted.

 

[anatta]

Other states voting systems are same day efficient.

after the hanging chads debacle (Bush v Gore) Florida set out to reform it's elections
We now get it done the same day, there are no court challenges, and the results are accepted
So it's an easy fix if the state government wants it fixed

The longer it takes, the more steps required, ( all because of mail ins) the less confidence and greater chance of errors
Although running out of ink ( Arizona) was the secreataary's fault -as she is supposed to actually supervise the election

 

[Callen]

no need to instruct me on state legislature. The secretary of state has a conflict of intersst as she's also running for ofice

I don't think that is unusual neither Raffensberg nor Kemp recused themselves from their roles. Although she still holds that role I believe she has delegated the responsibilities for the day-to-day tasks to someone else. Although I trust her integrity implicitly I kinda wish she had because Lake is going to go ballistic with everything she can think of if she loses...DeSantis is in on it don't you know!

 

[Phys251]

after the hanging chads debacle (Bush v Gore) Florida set out to reform it's elections
We now get it done the same day, there are no court challenges, and the results are accepted
So it's an easy fix if the state government wants it fixed

The longer it takes, the more steps required, ( all because of mail ins) the less confidence and greater chance of errors
Although running out of ink ( Arizona) was the secreataary's fault -as she is supposed to actually supervise the election

All the problems in Arizona are in Maricopa County, which is run by Republicans. Why can't they get their shit together?

 

[mike2810]

no need to instruct me on state legislature. The secretary of state has a conflict of intersst as she's also running for ofice

Answer this:
What role does the County Board of Supervisors and the County Recorder play in Arizona elections?

 

[anatta]

Answer this:
What role does the County Board of Supervisors and the County Recorder play in Arizona elections?

dont know, dont care. Im in florida where the election isn't a slow motion car crash every 2 years

 

[Callen]

after the hanging chads debacle (Bush v Gore) Florida set out to reform it's elections
We now get it done the same day, there are no court challenges, and the results are accepted
So it's an easy fix if the state government wants it fixed

The longer it takes, the more steps required, ( all because of mail ins) the less confidence and greater chance of errors
Although running out of ink ( Arizona) was the secreataary's fault -as she is supposed to actually supervise the election

You are mistaken. That is the responsibility of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors.

 

[Brack]

A lot of people dropped off their ballots on election day. That is a big reason why it is taking long to count all of the ballots.

 

[Callen]

dont know, dont care. Im in florida where the election isn't a slow motion car crash every 2 years

That is because you allow mail-in votes to be tabulated prior to election day...which is smart.

 

[anatta]

You are mistaken. That is the responsibility of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors.

fantastic spread the FUBAR around

 

[Lutherf]

What's going on there? I think they need to fix their elections system.
Hopefully, a good percentage of these late votes are for Republicans.

I just read that Maricopa County won't report until next week at the earliest. They will take tomorrow off for Veteran's Day and than, I guess, get the weekend off.

We've got some other weird stuff happening too. According to the Sec. State website there were 10k less ballots cast for Governor than for Senator. I can understand a lower vote total for some of the down ballot races but Gov and Sen should be pretty close totals.

 

[mike2810]

dont know, dont care. Im in florida where the election isn't a slow motion car crash every 2 years

Then your remark about Hobbs as Sect. of State is done from ignorance and misinformation.

Hint. The County Board of Supervisors along with the County Recorder are responsible for managing and running the election. Not the SOS.

 

[anatta]

That is because you allow mail-in votes to be tabulated prior to election day...which is smart.

it's not rocket science

 

[anatta]

Then your remark about Hobbs as Sect. of State is done from ignorance and misinformation.

Hint. The County Board of Supervisors along with the County Recorder are responsible for managing and running the election. Not the SOS.

i dont care. im not living in a dystopian screw up of recurring biannual nightmares.
If I were in Az i'd be livid

 

[mike2810]

i dont care. im not living in a dystopian screw up of recurring biannual nightmares.
If I were in Az i'd be livid

Then why did you comment?

If you lived in AZ you would be livid with Republicans. Will say it again. Arizona has had a Republican majority State Legislature. They wrote the election laws. They were signed by a GOP Governor.

So are the elected Republicans in Arizona incompetent?.

 

[Buckeyes85]

nuttier than a port a potty at a week long pecan fest.

Never heard that one before! Can I steal it?

 

[beefheart]

Never heard that one before! Can I steal it?

I did, comes from a former congressman in AZ, Sam Steiger, and boy, he was colorful....

 

[Callen]

it's not rocket science

If you believe in a States right to handle its elections the way they see fit this is how Republican controlled AZ wants to handle its elections. Having said that I think AZ is a bat sh!t crazy State !!!!

 

[madman]

This insanity is still going on. Another 600,000 votes left even today.
Nevada is also a disaster.

this is always gonna happen in those states where republicans claim "election fraud."

 

[mike2810]

I just read that Maricopa County won't report until next week at the earliest. They will take tomorrow off for Veteran's Day and than, I guess, get the weekend off.

We've got some other weird stuff happening too. According to the Sec. State website there were 10k less ballots cast for Governor than for Senator. I can understand a lower vote total for some of the down ballot races but Gov and Sen should be pretty close totals.

Where did you hear that about them taking Veteran's Day off? imo you are posting misinformation.
"Board of Supervisors Chairman Bill Gates said elections staff will work Friday, which is Veterans Day, and through the weekend if necessary.

Maricopa County enters next phase of tabulation with 400,000 ballots left

Maricopa County had over 400,000 ballots left to count as of Wednesday morning, including 275,000 early ballots submitted on Election Day.

ktar.com

What do you mean by 10K less? When I voted there were a few races I did not vote for anyone. Is that part of the 10K?

 

[madman]

Where did you hear that about them taking Veteran's Day off? imo you are posting misinformation.
"Board of Supervisors Chairman Bill Gates said elections staff will work Friday, which is Veterans Day, and through the weekend if necessary.

Maricopa County enters next phase of tabulation with 400,000 ballots left

Maricopa County had over 400,000 ballots left to count as of Wednesday morning, including 275,000 early ballots submitted on Election Day.

ktar.com

What do you mean by 10K less? When I voted there were a few races I did not vote for anyone. Is that part of the 10K?

If he "just read" im sure Lutherf will post his link

 

[Callen]

State website there were 10k less ballots cast for Governor than for Senator. I can understand a lower vote total for some of the down ballot races but Gov and Sen should be pretty close totals.

If true it doesn't surprise me a bit in AZ. Our friends in AZ are staunch conservative Republicans but not Trumper election deniers. They simply could not bring themselves to vote for Hobbs, the Dem, or Lake, the denier, they did however vote for Kelly because they believed him a good man who would do right by AZ at a National level.

 

[Buckeyes85]

All the problems in Arizona are in Maricopa County, which is run by Republicans. Why can't they get their shit together?

Appreciate your comment was made in jest, but was thinking of this following:
I certainly appreciate that for various reasons it may take time to get all votes counted, and it's of course possible that the votes yet to be counted come from areas that tend to skew one way or the other. Based upon this, Lake very well may make up the deficit and win.

But could you imagine the MAGA republican response if the rolls were reveresed? A MAGA in the lead when the first votes come in; in the lead at the end of the night on voting day; in the lead a day later and then another day.

When suddenly at the last minute, more ballots are counted that now reverse the lead and give the win to the Dems. The MAGAs would lose their freaking minds with their voter fraud claims and rigged elections.