When is the right time to talk about gun control? It's an honest question. Can you answer that? We have got to talk about it sometime, and it has to be before this happens again and again. How many innocent lives have to be lost before we start the conversation? I wish we had talked about it and acted before this happened. Maybe we can get it done before the next time sweet and innocent lives are lost.
The teachers were not allowed to concealed carry, my solution has not been implemented.We do allow people to deend themselves. People can purchase simi automatic weapons and thousands of rounds of amo on line. We have hardly no gun control laws as it is now. Allowing people to defend themselves by owning weapons hasn't solved the problem. Obviously, your solution hasn't been working.
Instead of claiming the shooter was evil, lets take a look at the shooters mental state. Perhaps if we had already had health care implemented, the sick individual who took these inocent lives would have gotten the mental health care he obviously needed and that would have prevented such a horrible situation. We have to address these problems. We can't just claim people like the shooter are evil and we can't do anything to prevent this sort of thing. These things will continue to happen over and over agian until we address the problems and come up with common sense solutions.
The GOP are against health care for all and gun control. I would like to know why.
I am not talking about an all out ban on guns. I am talking about gun control. I am not dillusional in thinking that it will prevent all gun crimes, but when a man can order thousands of rounds of amo on line and multiple simi atuo riffles and enter a movie theater and kill in mass in just a few seconds, something is obviously wrong here. That should have raised a few red flags. However, we have no laws preventing someone from stock pilling weapons and amo that are designed to kill mass amounts of people. If those laws were in place, we act on situations when these red flags come up. I believe in the right of citizens to own guns, but it is time to start the conversation. That is the first step.
We do allow people to deend themselves. People can purchase simi automatic weapons and thousands of rounds of amo on line. We have hardly no gun control laws as it is now.
Allowing people to defend themselves by owning weapons hasn't solved the problem. Obviously, your solution hasn't been working.
Is it time to talk about gun control now? This is getting ridiculous. We never find the time to talk about gun control. These sort of things don't happen in England, and they have very strong gun control laws. The NRA needs to get out of the way and let the conversation begin.
LOL If you've ever tried to talk about gun control on the Gun Control Forum you'd quickly know the answer to your question. The gun nut trolls will you shout you down and make any rational discussion about it impossible.
It's never the right time to talk about gun control in the midst of an ongoing tragedy. Using tragedy as a political club is not only distasteful, it's disrespectful to the victims and their families, who should be the focus of our concern. So please try to contain yourself.
Because Healthcare is not a right and the right to defend yourself IS.
Healthcare is a responsibility. Gun control is seeking to usurp the ability of someone to defend themselves from others. Gun control ensures that the only people that are carrying are criminals. Why is the gun violense so bad in Chicago when they have gun control?
I would agree tentatively that pychiatric care may have helped. But even the best healthcare cant always predict when someone will have a psychotic break that allows them to engage in this sort of behavior.
The problem with a free society is that its not very neat and its not very controlled, but people are free to make their own choices. Unfortunately some of those choices are so horrific that we turn away from our principles and seek to control what others do, when something like this is both hard to predict and hard to prevent.
This is NOT the time to turn this tragedy into a political football. How dare you!!
This is NOT the time to turn this tragedy into a political football. How dare you!!
18 Children were killed in their Kindergarten classroom, as well as 8 other adults. My heart goes out to the families, and breaks for the victims.
So? Would you rather people only have access to muzzle loaded black powder guns? You say semi-auto as if it were some kind of superior dangerous technology. Actually you said simi but...
What is the problem? Violence? If you really ever expect that, or the existence of war, to be "solved" you have irrational expectations.
There is another thread about the Conn. shooting and I think it says it all.
WOuld be nice but will never happen.
Damn Shame.
When will it end and when will the gunnies realize the futility of their position.
This is NOT the time to turn this tragedy into a political football. How dare you!!
Somehow I think the victims and their families would disagree with you.This is NOT the time to turn this tragedy into a political football. How dare you!!
It's never the right time to talk about gun control in the midst of an ongoing tragedy. Using tragedy as a political club is not only distasteful, it's disrespectful to the victims and their families, who should be the focus of our concern. So please try to contain yourself.
There is no reason for a citizen to have weapons designed to kill in mass.
Me saying this does not mean I think people should only be able to have muzzle loaded guns. I have no problem with sane law abiding citizens having hand guns, rifles, and or shot guns for protection or hunting.
I do have a problem with people being able to get online and order thousands of rounds of amo and guns designed to kill in masses in a matter of seconds.
I do have a problem with guns being sold with no background checks. I have a huge problem with people who have a history of violence being able to just go buy a gun and weapon and in a matter of hours kill people.
Recently, a man in Florida killed a teenager because his music was too loud and he refused to turn it down. If you can't see there is something wrong, then I don't know what to tell you. If we see there is a problem but are not willing to at least try to find a viable solution then you are a big part of the problem.
There is another issue here. Where does it say that all shooters are mentally ill? What if a person who has a low stress threshold or low emotional tolerance goes in and buys a gun? He would certainly pass any system check we have now. And then one day something happens and he pops off.
How are we going to detect that with the system currently in place. NOt at all. We need better evaluations and longer ones such as a behavioral stress test (about a week of testing), even then.
We just ALL have to admit that this is not working and create a better system instead of living in a delusional world like some or being ostriches.
Just plain stupid.
Please, don't turn this tragedy into a political football with the blood not even dry and facts few and far between.
If we don't turn it into a political football then we don't even talk about it, let alone change it.. How many changes have been made due to the countless shootings we have had.. Be it a shopping mall, a movie theatre, Virginia Tech, Safeway parking lot, or a kindergarten class?? When is it ok to talk about?? When is it ok to make some changes?? How many more children have to die before it is ok to turn this tragedy into a topic of discussion for change?? When?? When it isn't a member of someone else's family or someone else's child, but one of your own??
This is the best time to talk about.. How dare you say those 20 children's lives mean nothing.. To mean the are a scream for change.. So how about we get to it!!
First of all, I didn't say those 20 children's lives mean nothing... and only a huge partisan hack would dare imply I said such a thing when I didn't.
I try not to take things personally on this forum but that **** was totally uncalled for and insulting as hell.
Who the **** do you think you are putting such heinous words in my mouth? You sure as hell don't know me. You apparently have no clue what I was talking about... or else you just don't care, because you're too caught up in the drama of your personal agenda to know **** from shlock.
I said that a time of heated passions and heartbreaking loss was no time to try to set public policy, and it isn't. Legislating from hysteria never solves anything and usually creates more problems.
Get a clue.
You have to understand that a lot of people are getting of the 'Let's not turn this into a political football' people.. When do we talk about this issue?? How many people have to die before we can turn this into a political football..
You get a clue!! How many laws were changed in Virginia after 33 people were killed at Virginia tech.??? NONE!!! Not a single law?? So you tell all of us when you will be ready to talk about change in the gun laws?? When will you be ready to take some responsibility for your own views???
When are you willing to man up to reality.. Instead of calling someone a political hack.. You are damn right it, it is an emotional time.. 18 CHILDREN
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