23 face domestic terrorism charges after arrests in ‘Cop City’ protests at planned police training site in Atlanta

[ClaraD]

These people have been emboldened by past treatment with kids' gloves, or denied they even exist (think Jerry Nadler saying Antifa violence doesn't exist), so hopefully this will reverse that. The left has been playing cosey with them for a while.

Add in the irony of people saying cops suck but then attacking a facility that would help them train better.

No, the people have become angry because police are allowed to kill people and get away with it.

 

[Fishking]

No, the people have become angry because police are allowed to kill people and get away with it.

That's nearly all non-existant.

 

[LouC]

That's nearly all non-existant.

Exactly what the hell is that supposed to mean?

 

[Fishking]

Exactly what the hell is that supposed to mean?

It means what it means. The left makes it sound like police are out there executing people left and right all over the place, but the reality is that there are millions of police interactions a year, and thousands and thousands of violent interactions, and yet there are only very few instances of legitimately bad police use of force. Those few instances get sensationalized by the media and made to seem like it's the norm. It isn't.

 

[LouC]

It means what it means.

It means nothing.

The left makes it sound like police are out there executing people left and right all over the place,

No we don't.

but the reality is that there are millions of police interactions a year, and thousands and thousands of violent interactions, and yet there are only very few instances of legitimately bad police use of force.

There are also many thousands of instances of inappropriate uses of force every year with way too many resulting in death of innocent people.

There are records of this.

Those few instances get sensationalized by the media and made to seem like it's the norm.

Those thousands of instances should never be happening, that they have happened and of late been publicly documented is the only reason they are getting reported by the media.

Specifically which media outlet(s) "sensationalized" the George Floyd murder and exactly what was the way that it was "sensationalized" by these media outlets?

How exactly are these media outlets supposedly making these incidents "seem like the norm" to the American people?

It isn't.

List 5 media outlets that have said incidents like the George Floyd murder are the "norm" for police encounters.

Thanks in advance.

 

[ClaraD]

That's nearly all non-existant.

really now...non existant? Let me give you some insight and you figure it out...and I will stick to just Atlanta

The aftermath of the Jackson case and widespread criticism of the police force emerging from that case coincided with the criminal trial of officers, primarily from Zone 3 (one of six police zones in the city), who were accused of corruption. That trial raised new questions about OPS's effectiveness. One sergeant, in his testimony against another officer, explained that members of the "bad cop ring" did not fear an OPS investigation because they knew how to circumvent it: "As a supervisor, I knew my processes and I knew OPS's processes....It'd be the officer's word versus the citizen's and the officer would win out since there were no witnesses."

One of the officers was the subject of five brutality complaints. One complainant alleged that the officer and his partner drove him to a deserted location where the officer reportedly unzipped the man's pants and his partner grabbed the suspect's testicles and squeezed while asking questions; the officers also reportedly kicked and choked the man. Despite similar complaints by other suspects, OPS dismissed all five complaints as unfounded because there were no witnesses other than police officers, who backed the officer.

A leader of the ring was arrested in DeKalb County for allegedly battering his wife, leading to a court-ordered psychological profile, which reportedly stated that he had been in seventy-five fistfights in his lifetime, including some while on duty. His wife recanted, and prosecutors dropped charges against him. After the corruption scandal broke, Atlanta police reopened an internal investigation into the 1993 shooting death of a criminal suspect who was shot five times by the officer after a foot chase, including three times in the back at a distance of two and a half feet. , the officer was praised by superiors in annual performance reports for his "gung ho" attitude.

In another case, a civil lawsuit filed on behalf of Charles Cunningham alleges that the plaintiff was beaten with a flashlight by Atlanta Police Officer Charles Traylor on June 11, 1993. According to Cunningham, he was a bystander during a fistfight outside a nightclub in Atlanta when Officer Traylor arrived at the scene. Officer Traylor allegedly hit another individual with a flashlight, while Cunningham protested from some distance. Officer Traylor then allegedly struck Cunningham with the flashlight. The blow cut completely through Cunningham's lip, requiring an operation.

Traylor reportedly was found psychologically unfit for police work by several psychologists, one of whom warned in 1988 that "persistent demands to cope withstressful or demanding situations might lead to outbursts of emotion." Traylor's behavior was attributed to attention deficit disorder, and he was given medication. But, in 1992, a psychologist warned that Traylor was still not fit for full duty.

This was all the more disturbing in that Officer Traylor had been convicted and disciplined for violent behavior in the past. In 1988 he was convicted of simple battery after he fought with another driver over a parking space. In 1989, Traylor fought with another officer after an argument over race relations and was hospitalized for his injuries. That fight resulted in a three-day suspension. Over half a dozen complaints had been filed against the officer, though none of these resulted in discipline. In one startling off-duty incident, Traylor reportedly shot at another vehicle on an interstate highway. He later stated that he thought he saw a revolver in the other vehicle; no firearm was found. As of August 1997, Officer Traylor was still on the force and working out of Zone 6; as part of the settlement with Cunningham, Traylor must remain on desk duty.

Shielded from Justice: Atlanta

Kathryn Johnston....age 88 years....was in her home....the so-called narcotics unit Red dog (Atlanta) busted into her home, because she had dared have burglar bars on her home windows and security cameras and that led them to believe she was dealing drugs. Welp, they busted in to her home, she thought they were intruders(because she wasn't a drug dealer and never was) they didn't announce who they were and they were plain clothed. This terrified elderly woman shot at them and they killed her. They then realized their mistake, planted drugs in her home and thought they would get away with it...and they almost did....until one of them cracked under pressure and spilled the beans.
Shall we also discuss this
Atlanta officer indicted

 

[Lovebug]

No, the people have become angry because police are allowed to kill people and get away with it.

So they need to vent their anger more productively, in a way that brings everyone to the table.
I so abhor violence of any kind.

 

[Hatuey]

Treating black civil rights leaders like Pokemon cards is always a tell. Go Rosa Parks! Return Huey P!

 

[coyote505]

Consider this:

In our American system, we have elected representatives we chose to represent us in governance & legislation.

All the authority systems put in place are enacted by the representatives & officials we put there (through our votes), choosing them from amongst ourselves. They are me and you.

Consequently, government is us! Which is why it's called "government of the people". It's a subset of us, enacted by us.

I suspect I'm reflecting a way of thinking and ideologies that were prevalent coming out of the communal efforts of the war (WW-II). I very much bemoan the loss of these ideologies. I detest the "us & them" mantra.

Pogo put it best: "We have met the enemy and he is Us."

 

[ClaraD]

So they need to vent their anger more productively, in a way that brings everyone to the table.
I so abhor violence of any kind.

I agree, but I do not think we can blame the local protesters for these folks. The violence was nearly 100% out of state people.

 

[ClaraD]

That's nearly all non-existant.

I noticed you became very quiet after I pointed out some glaring problems in Atlanta PD. Can we not all agree that there are some serious issues that need to be addressed in Atlanta PD and that the problems aren't nearly non-existent? It isn't every one of them either, but they clearly knew that their oversight board is a joke and that as long as there weren't witnesses that they could do whatever they wanted. This same issue was occurring in Baltimore PD. We need to address the oversight of police and work on getting the trust in police back. I don't trust Atlanta police any further than I can throw them...and yes, I frequently am in the ATL.

 

[Lovebug]

I agree, but I do not think we can blame the local protesters for these folks. The violence was nearly 100% out of state people.

It is possible. There always will be agitators.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Left wingers shooting cops and committing acts of domestic terrorism... also known as Monday...

 

[BlueTex]

Left wingers shooting cops and committing acts of domestic terrorism... also known as Monday...

Nobody was shot this weekend at Cop City... Good lord...

 

[Metric Mouse]

Nobody was shot this weekend at Cop City... Good lord...

Nope. It's been a few weeks since they shot a cop there.

 

[LouC]

So they need to vent their anger more productively, in a way that brings everyone to the table.
I so abhor violence of any kind.

 

[eman623]

Domestic terrorism? They don't mess around with violent protesters in Georgia.

I wonder what the penalty for that is. A quick Googling turned up nothing.

 

[reinaert]

23 face domestic terrorism charges after arrests in ‘Cop City’ protests at planned police training site in Atlanta



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I generally do not like video news sources. I strongly prefer print.

However, I would urge you to consider viewing the 1:09 runtime video included in the CNN print article I used above in my OP. As they say, "a picture is worth thousand words", and the video speaks (writes?) volumes!

I believe the anti-coppers in the video should be brought to justice with no less temerity than we have the 1/6-ers. Violence against those we place in authority should not be tolerated, wherever it emanates from. When someone strikes at the lawful authorities, they strike at us - the society we have enacted.

Deference to power is always unseemly.

 

[Fishking]

really now...non existant? Let me give you some insight and you figure it out...and I will stick to just Atlanta

The aftermath of the Jackson case and widespread criticism of the police force emerging from that case coincided with the criminal trial of officers, primarily from Zone 3 (one of six police zones in the city), who were accused of corruption. That trial raised new questions about OPS's effectiveness. One sergeant, in his testimony against another officer, explained that members of the "bad cop ring" did not fear an OPS investigation because they knew how to circumvent it: "As a supervisor, I knew my processes and I knew OPS's processes....It'd be the officer's word versus the citizen's and the officer would win out since there were no witnesses."

One of the officers was the subject of five brutality complaints. One complainant alleged that the officer and his partner drove him to a deserted location where the officer reportedly unzipped the man's pants and his partner grabbed the suspect's testicles and squeezed while asking questions; the officers also reportedly kicked and choked the man. Despite similar complaints by other suspects, OPS dismissed all five complaints as unfounded because there were no witnesses other than police officers, who backed the officer.

A leader of the ring was arrested in DeKalb County for allegedly battering his wife, leading to a court-ordered psychological profile, which reportedly stated that he had been in seventy-five fistfights in his lifetime, including some while on duty. His wife recanted, and prosecutors dropped charges against him. After the corruption scandal broke, Atlanta police reopened an internal investigation into the 1993 shooting death of a criminal suspect who was shot five times by the officer after a foot chase, including three times in the back at a distance of two and a half feet. , the officer was praised by superiors in annual performance reports for his "gung ho" attitude.



Kathryn Johnston....age 88 years....was in her home....the so-called narcotics unit Red dog (Atlanta) busted into her home, because she had dared have burglar bars on her home windows and security cameras and that led them to believe she was dealing drugs. Welp, they busted in to her home, she thought they were intruders(because she wasn't a drug dealer and never was) they didn't announce who they were and they were plain clothed. This terrified elderly woman shot at them and they killed her. They then realized their mistake, planted drugs in her home and thought they would get away with it...and they almost did....until one of them cracked under pressure and spilled the beans.
Shall we also discuss this
Atlanta officer indicted

That's anecdotal. Looking at all questionable incidents in the context of total police interactions and you're looking at something that isn't the systemic problem that the left tries to make it out to be. The media pushes any story, out of a country of over 330 million people and hold up these examples as if it's the norm. If it was anywhere close to the norm it would look a lot different out there.

 

[Paradoxical]

23 face domestic terrorism charges after arrests in ‘Cop City’ protests at planned police training site in Atlanta



--

I generally do not like video news sources. I strongly prefer print.

However, I would urge you to consider viewing the 1:09 runtime video included in the CNN print article I used above in my OP. As they say, "a picture is worth thousand words", and the video speaks (writes?) volumes!

I believe the anti-coppers in the video should be brought to justice with no less temerity than we have the 1/6-ers. Violence against those we place in authority should not be tolerated, wherever it emanates from. When someone strikes at the lawful authorities, they strike at us - the society we have enacted.

This was like 9/11 compared with the trespassing on 1-6

 

[Napoleon]

That's anecdotal. Looking at all questionable incidents in the context of total police interactions and you're looking at something that isn't the systemic problem that the left tries to make it out to be. The media pushes any story, out of a country of over 330 million people and hold up these examples as if it's the norm. If it was anywhere close to the norm it would look a lot different out there.

The last time I crunched the numbers on this I found that total interaction is not a published figure, but total arrests are. The later figure is in excess of 10 million annually. So when you at look at something like police shooting of an unarmed black person it comes out to a mere fraction of 1%. Which really places the sacking of cities in 2020 over that issue in an even worse light. It is a problem that is so statistically insignificant that it can barely be measured.

 

[ClaraD]

That's anecdotal. Looking at all questionable incidents in the context of total police interactions and you're looking at something that isn't the systemic problem that the left tries to make it out to be. The media pushes any story, out of a country of over 330 million people and hold up these examples as if it's the norm. If it was anywhere close to the norm it would look a lot different out there.

If you bothered to follow the links it is more than anecdotal ...there is a system issue...and that is why the people there do not trust the police. A citizens oversight board would go a long way in restoring that trust...but the police union refuses to allow that.

 

[LouC]

This was like 9/11 compared with the trespassing on 1-6

What an imbecilic and ever so incorrect attempt at some inane attempt to ignorantly play down, idiotically, the January 6th insurrectionist attempt to keep KING MAGAT enthroned as president.

What a joke!

 

[Diomedes]

“Operation Shield”, another Atlanta Police Foundation project launched in 2007, developed a network of 11,000 cameras and license plate readers, rendering Atlanta the most surveilled city in the country.

1984 is finally here.

 

[uptower]

Well look at that, how come the 'far lefties' on this site aren't rallying around the accused, claiming they're political prisoners, or blaming a false flag operation by the FBI?