2016 Candidates Are Finally Taking Paid Family Leave Seriously

[gdgyva]

Productivity doesn't come from being glued to the helm every waking moment but from how energized and, as a result, focused and organized your brain is. Humans are just like smartphones or iPods: We have to be recharged, or we run out of juice.

hence the following words

weekends
vacations
holidays
and other assorted PTO

not counting the weekends, my employees get 8 paid holidays, 1 week vacation after one year service (2 wks after 3 yrs), four days sick/PTO annually to use as they wish

that gives them PLENTY of time to recharge their batteries

the days of 7 day work weeks, and no time off are long gone

let's stop with the histrionics shall we

employers cannot afford to add this cost onto them

now if you want to make it a payroll tax, that everyone pays for, and only some get the benefit of....we will see how the majority feel about something like that

to where the feds reimburse me for the pay....while i am paying for the temp worker

 

[cpwill]

Lmao, if the man has had a surgery too? Sure. It treats both genders equally. I don't think you understand the meaning of treating both genders equally though. So here we go with 100 posts of you not understanding a simple societal concept. People shouldn't be treated the same based on what their partner might get. They should be treated equally based on the situations that affect them. Example:

Man has surgery. Man has time off.
Woman has surgery. Woman has time off.

Man has baby. Man has time off.
Woman has baby. Woman has time off.

Is this really that hard?

I am willing to concur that every man who births a baby should get some time off. I'm not saying that it should be mandated, but they deserve it.

 

[HenryChinaski]

hence the following words

weekends
vacations
holidays
and other assorted PTO

not counting the weekends, my employees get 8 paid holidays, 1 week vacation after one year service (2 wks after 3 yrs), four days sick/PTO annually to use as they wish

that gives them PLENTY of time to recharge their batteries

the days of 7 day work weeks, and no time off are long gone

let's stop with the histrionics shall we

employers cannot afford to add this cost onto them

now if you want to make it a payroll tax, that everyone pays for, and only some get the benefit of....we will see how the majority feel about something like that

to where the feds reimburse me for the pay....while i am paying for the temp worker

The company that I work for feels and shows otherwise. My god, just one week of vacation starting out? New hires here receive 160 hours of PTO. We're fortunate.

 

[cpwill]

Mothers stay home for physical recovery.

I had 3 kids under the age of 5, and my husband was only given a few days to stay home with me (PTO). I wasn't depressed when he went back to work. Postpartum depression is primarily caused by hormonal changes in the woman. If she is going to get it, she's going to get it with or without her husband at home.

Newborns don't worry about who feeds them or changes their diapers during the day. They just want it done. It can be a nanny, the mother, a stay at home father, a sibling, or a grandparent.

I'm really enjoying watching him ManSplain having babies to you :mrgreen:

 

[cpwill]

The company that I work for feels and shows otherwise. My god, just one week of vacation starting out? New hires here receive 160 hours of PTO. We're fortunate.

:shrug: hooray. We're happy for you. My job lets me build up hours and roll them over (up to 240) as well, and it's a benefit I deeply enjoy. But use of those hours is subject to requirements.

My boss also pretty much leaves me alone and lets me do what I want, because he's confident I will succeed in all tasks and find new ways to improve our output and support. That's a great part of my job.

That doesn't mean that we should mandate that all bosses not direct their subordinates on a day-to-day basis, any more than your employer having the leave policy it does means that we should mandate it for all jobs.

You never did answer the question about what-if-the-employer-can't-achieve-tasks-because-too-many-are-on-leave.

You want to be a good father? I think that is excellent. How am I supposed to be a good father when I never get to see my kids because I'm working extra hours every day to make up for the work my coworkers aren't doing while they are at home?

 

[gdgyva]

My employers revenue was up 3% last year. They banked 34.2 billion. If productivity was an issue, revenue would surely be going down. They're doing something right.

you work for a big audit and financial services company

quick...can you tell me what % of tax they paid for the year?

here....this this will help ( page 15)

http://www2.deloitte.com/content/da.../deloitte-uk-financial-statements-2015-v2.pdf

btw....the rate is ZERO

omg...it isnt GE, and they paid zero taxes....what will a liberal do....especially one that works for them?

google is your friend.....

 

[gdgyva]

They pay for the mother to be home, why not the father? He made the baby too. It contributes to the overall emotional and physical well-being of mothers. Research shows that women who feel supported at home in the early stages after the birth of their child are healthier and less likely to get depressed. Co-parenting habits that are established in the first few months of a child’s life continue to benefit the emotional development of the child.

no....most employers DONT pay for the mother to be home

having children is a choice

people do it....but that doesnt mean the place that employs them has to pay them while they arent working

most do not....nor should they

 

[HenryChinaski]

:shrug: hooray. We're happy for you. My job lets me build up hours and roll them over (up to 240) as well, and it's a benefit I deeply enjoy.

My boss pretty much leaves me alone and lets me do what I want, because he's confident I will succeed in all tasks and find new ways to improve our output and support. That's a great part of my job.

That doesn't mean that we should mandate that all bosses not direct their subordinates on a day-to-day basis, any more than your employer having the leave policy it does means that we should mandate it for all jobs.

You never did answer the question about what-if-the-employer-can't-achieve-tasks-because-too-many-are-on-leave.

You want to be a good father? I think that is excellent. How am I supposed to be a good father when I never get to see my kids because I'm working extra hours every day to make up for the work my coworkers aren't doing while they are at home?

Maternity leave is mandated. There is zero reason why paternity leave shouldn't be as well. My co-worker just got back from 3 weeks paternity leave because the fathers presence during that time is just as important as the mothers. Back in 93 conservatives also whined about the family leave and medical act. They're so resistant to change.

 

[HenryChinaski]

you work for a big audit and financial services company

quick...can you tell me what % of tax they paid for the year?

here....this this will help ( page 15)

http://www2.deloitte.com/content/da.../deloitte-uk-financial-statements-2015-v2.pdf

btw....the rate is ZERO

omg...it isnt GE, and they paid zero taxes....what will a liberal do....especially one that works for them?

google is your friend.....

I've never stated who I worked for.

 

[gdgyva]

I've never stated who I worked for.

you didnt have to

and i would guess that you are a clerk in one of their offices

if i called the chicago branch. would i find a henry chinaski there?

 

[cpwill]

Maternity leave is mandated. There is zero reason why paternity leave shouldn't be as well.

A) Maternity leave shouldn't be mandated. It should be encouraged.
B) Maternity leave and paternity leave are materially different due to the fact that one of these people is the mother who has just given birth and who is critical to the baby's survival, and the other is there to do chores and change diapers.

I got paternity leave for two of my three kids. I loved it. It was a great time to be Just Us. I'm in favor of paternity leave. But it wasn't as important that I be home for the baby as it was that my wife be home for the baby.

My co-worker just got back from 3 weeks paternity leave because the fathers presence during that time is just as important as the mothers.

No, it isn't. That's a nice little bromide that people say that isn't true.

Back in 93 conservatives also whined about the family leave and medical act. They're so resistant to change.

No, we are resistant to lunacy and the desire to avoid recognizing the reality of unintended consequences and economic trade-offs.

 

[HenryChinaski]

you didnt have to

and i would guess that you are a clerk in one of their offices

if i called the chicago branch. would i find a henry chinaski there?

Nope.

 

[gdgyva]

Nope.

you work there

the name may not be right....

but that is the company you work for

i would bet money on it

 

[HenryChinaski]

you work there

the name may not be right....

but that is the company you work for

i would bet money on it

Bet away. Where I work isn't the topic of this thread and you've been reported for the weird PM you just sent me.

 

[WorldWatcher]

I have no interest in shooting you or anyone else for that matter.

You didn't say why a newborn needs 2 adults caring for it.

I didn't address "why" at all. I was pointing out that a single employee cannot take 12 weeks maternity leave AND 12 weeks illness leave in the same year.


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[gdgyva]

yeah

you screwed up

you put too much information out on the interwebz

and someone with a brain figured out where you work

now you are shaking in your boots because of it

face it...you screwed up

you put just enough clues out there for anyone to figure it out

your mistake.....

 

[HenryChinaski]

yeah

you screwed up

you put too much information out on the interwebz

and someone with a brain figured out where you work

now you are shaking in your boots because of it

face it...you screwed up

you put just enough clues out there for anyone to figure it out

your mistake.....

This whole post wreaks of psycho. You're either over medicated or under.

 

[Absentglare]

He was talking about his own business, not your taxes.

I'll take the word of Forbes about Romney's taxes over an anonymous message board poster.

Forbes Welcome

Your income has nothing to do with anything. And I'm not giving you any kind of financial advice. But smart people know that you need deductions if you make a lot of money. I guess it's the first time you're hearing about it.

You aren't a slave to your employer. Last I checked, we had the right to work anywhere we choose, and we are free to leave a job anytime we choose. If you feel like a slave, open your own business.

His business runs off of the people's money. They buy his crap. It's all just American money. It was all issued by the same government.

LOL they added his corporations tax rate to his own. How deliciously dishonest !!

You don't need deductions. You can just pay taxes instead. The Romneys paying $3 million in charity is stupid, they would have saved money if they had just paid taxes instead.

 

[gdgyva]

This whole post wreaks of psycho. You're either over medicated or under.

a little advice

when you argue a point

stop using YOUR company's HR benefits as a guideline

they are better than 95% of the companies out there

then you posted top line revenue of your company and boasted it was a record year

stop thinking you are the smartest guy on the interwebz....

it is going to get you into trouble....

 

[tres borrachos]

His business runs off of the people's money. They buy his crap. It's all just American money. It was all issued by the same government.

LOL they added his corporations tax rate to his own. How deliciously dishonest !!

You don't need deductions. You can just pay taxes instead. The Romneys paying $3 million in charity is stupid, they would have saved money if they had just paid taxes instead.

No it doesn't. If I open a small business today, you have no investment in it. You have no interest in it. Even if you were a customer, you still don't lay claim to my capital investment.

Yes, I agree, donating to charity is so stupid.:roll: They should have let Uncle Sam confiscate their money for some worthwhile cause.

 

[Absentglare]

No it doesn't. If I open a small business today, you have no investment in it. You have no interest in it. Even if you were a customer, you still don't lay claim to my capital investment.

Yes, I agree, donating to charity is so stupid.:roll: They should have let Uncle Sam confiscate their money for some worthwhile cause.

Every American dollar everywhere is American.

Charities are a foolish investment if the goal is to avoid taxes.

None of your talking point rhetoric changes either of those facts.

 

[tres borrachos]

Every American dollar everywhere is American.

Charities are a foolish investment if the goal is to avoid taxes.

None of your talking point rhetoric changes either of those facts.

How much of your money belongs to me?

By the way, some people donate to charities because we actually care about the cause, not to lower our taxes. You're the one who was complaining about your tax rate. Do something about it. Nobody here cares.

 

[Absentglare]

How much of your money belongs to me?

By the way, some people donate to charities because we actually care about the cause, not to lower our taxes. You're the one who was complaining about your tax rate. Do something about it. Nobody here cares.

It is all our money. That is where it came from. That is eventually where it will go to.

If you cared about Americans, instead of your pets, you'd be happy to invest in Americans by helping to fund much needed educational assistance and infrastructure.

 

[HenryChinaski]

a little advice

when you argue a point

stop using YOUR company's HR benefits as a guideline

they are better than 95% of the companies out there

then you posted top line revenue of your company and boasted it was a record year

stop thinking you are the smartest guy on the interwebz....

it is going to get you into trouble....

This post wreaks of psycho as well, and should be grounds for banning. Stalker.

 

[gdgyva]

This post wreaks of psycho as well, and should be grounds for banning. Stalker.

posting advice is a banning offence?