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So aside from the Democrats ramming this bill down our throats,which they will, what hope will the GOP have of:
1) retaking either or both houses of Congress
2) Fielding a decent, Conservative candidate for 2012
and
3) What of the future of the GOP??
Look at who has to run for re-election in the senate in 2010. Republicans are not taking it back.
Edited to add: reference: United States Senate elections, 2010 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So lemme ask. You favor a permanent Democrat majority with no opposition except a few token Conservatives?? Sick indeed!!
Nowhere have I said that.
That is grade A 100% USDA Prime horsesh!t! It is implied!!!! You want the Democrats to rule ad infinitum so that your side can tear this country down and reshape it into your twisted little Socialist utopia!!!!
I think you are off your meds.
Then tell me. Since you think you are the friggin' know-it-all Liberal, how the hell does the GOP get back?? By compromising and selling out its Conservative principles and becoming Democrat-Lyte??
Hate to burst your bubble, but unless someone steps up in the Newt Gingrich role, the Republicans have a long way to go.Hate to burst your bubble, but I see 1994 all over again!
OMG, the ambient temperature in Hell has just dropped! I see pigs flying OMGThe problem I see with republicans as far as elections is not their stand on issues as much as their presentation.
Hate to burst your bubble, but unless someone steps up in the Newt Gingrich role, the Republicans have a long way to go.
Eric Cantor could quite easily fill those shoes. He's not quite the idea machine that Gingrich is, but he's smart and articulate. What he has not done (yet) is put out that succinct statement of principles that people can gravitate towards the way Gingrich did with the Contract with America.
You can argue the extent to which the Republicans were sincere with the Contract overall, but what you cannot argue is that the Contract framed the 1994 elections more than any other issue. After seemingly endless gridlock in the Congress during George H.W. Bush's term of office, and the seeming persistence of gridlock during the early Clinton years, the Contract was a pledge to bring legislation to the floor, come hell or high water.
The party that can frame 2010 in similar terms is going to make huge gains at the polls. This is where the Anti-Republicans are doing themselves serious damage as a governing party. They have made great sport of talking up how marginalized and irrelevant the Republican Party is, only to fall back on blaming them for not being able to pass health care reform on Dear Leader's timetable--John Kerry Syndrome apparently is contagious, with the Anti-Republicans firmly entrenched on both sides of the question of how relevant the Republican Party is in Congress. They have the votes, presumably, to govern as they desire, yet for all of the hoopla surrounding Dear Leader and a supposed feverish pace of legislation, they have moved exactly one major piece of legislation all the way through the system--American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (PL 111-5). Total number of laws enacted by Congress to date--47.
Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress))
Doing an advanced search on THOMAS for all public laws in the 110th Congress introduced in Congress through 8/11/2007 results in a count of 214.
Congress, with an Anti-Republican Majority (same as in the 110th Congress) and an Anti-Republican President, is passing less than one fourth the legislation the last Congress worked on. With more of their own to work with, they are accomplishing less, and blaming the minority party for their ineptitude.
Thus, the stage is set for a Republican resurgence, but only if the Republicans can make a case as a party that will move legislation through the system, as a party with the discipline and the vision to actually govern and attend the nation's business. If they can make that case, they will own the midterm elections, because the Anti-Republicans have made a stellar case already that they are not such a party.
However, there is no indication the Republicans are setting the stage to make such a case, and, until they do, their midterm gains will be modest.
OMG, the ambient temperature in Hell has just dropped! I see pigs flying OMG
Agreed. If there is one thing Rush is dead-on correct about is that the Republicans need to be uncompromising Conservatives and not have to "shift to the Left" in order to be elected. Hell, Reagan was an unashamed Conservative who easily manhandled not one, but two Liberals and handed both of them their heads iun November of 1980 and 84.
I think the basic idea that the GOP needs to embrace is this: Solid Conservatism with ideas in a way that makes it appealing to Americans!
Nice post Celticlord. Ditch the namecalling, and it would have been great, even if I disagree with you on almost every issue.
Celtic, you just taught this old dawgHate to burst your bubble, but unless someone steps up in the Newt Gingrich role, the Republicans have a long way to go.
Eric Cantor could quite easily fill those shoes. He's not quite the idea machine that Gingrich is, but he's smart and articulate. What he has not done (yet) is put out that succinct statement of principles that people can gravitate towards the way Gingrich did with the Contract with America.
You can argue the extent to which the Republicans were sincere with the Contract overall, but what you cannot argue is that the Contract framed the 1994 elections more than any other issue. After seemingly endless gridlock in the Congress during George H.W. Bush's term of office, and the seeming persistence of gridlock during the early Clinton years, the Contract was a pledge to bring legislation to the floor, come hell or high water.
The party that can frame 2010 in similar terms is going to make huge gains at the polls. This is where the Anti-Republicans are doing themselves serious damage as a governing party. They have made great sport of talking up how marginalized and irrelevant the Republican Party is, only to fall back on blaming them for not being able to pass health care reform on Dear Leader's timetable--John Kerry Syndrome apparently is contagious, with the Anti-Republicans firmly entrenched on both sides of the question of how relevant the Republican Party is in Congress. They have the votes, presumably, to govern as they desire, yet for all of the hoopla surrounding Dear Leader and a supposed feverish pace of legislation, they have moved exactly one major piece of legislation all the way through the system--American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (PL 111-5). Total number of laws enacted by Congress to date--47.
Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress))
Doing an advanced search on THOMAS for all public laws in the 110th Congress introduced in Congress through 8/11/2007 results in a count of 214.
Congress, with an Anti-Republican Majority (same as in the 110th Congress) and an Anti-Republican President, is passing less than one fourth the legislation the last Congress worked on. With more of their own to work with, they are accomplishing less, and blaming the minority party for their ineptitude.
Thus, the stage is set for a Republican resurgence, but only if the Republicans can make a case as a party that will move legislation through the system, as a party with the discipline and the vision to actually govern and attend the nation's business. If they can make that case, they will own the midterm elections, because the Anti-Republicans have made a stellar case already that they are not such a party.
However, there is no indication the Republicans are setting the stage to make such a case, and, until they do, their midterm gains will be modest.
The problem as I see it, is that the Libs were the ones who started this catterwalling when they lost in 1994, but especially in the 2000 election. since then, all we heard were unrelenting attacks on President GW Bush 24/7. So I think, as guilty of it as I am, we do need to take a breather and reassess our priorites.
So the Libs have been bitter even before then?? How?? I did not see as much bitterness and outright hatred until 2000. But I do believe that the Libs have been pissed since 1994. JMHOYou need to go back and look at your history. 1994 was hardly the beginning of anything.
So the Libs have been bitter even before then?? How?? I did not see as much bitterness and outright hatred until 2000. But I do believe that the Libs have been pissed since 1994. JMHO
Considering the Democrats had a nonstop stranglehold on Congress for forty years before that!!!No moreso than any other party out of power. I think most of us where not even that pissed until 2000. But it goes back and forth, with every shift in power. There just have not been that many shifts in congress, so it made it more noticeable in 94.
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