20 Lawmakers send letter to Obama

[Heebie Jeebie]

yeah...probably need to end that practice as well. Bombs are expensive and we're broke

Yeah we toss them around like they are Tomahawk missiles!

 

[jonny5]

Not for Iraq, authorization for Iraq didn't happen until after Bush had begun bombing campaigns in Iraq.

No, the authorization was signed August of 2002. The invasion was March of 2003.

 

[CalGun]

Absolute LIES

1) Saddam used WMD's on the Kurds you lied.
2) Al Queda was in Iraq and its leadership getting medical attention - you lied again.
3) You nailed one - not urgent -
4) WHICH IS WHY BUSH GOT APPROVAL IN SEPTEMBER and INVADED IN MARCH
a) Iraq Resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
b) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War

Saddam did not have WMDs.

Iraq had no ties to Al Qaeda.

Attacking Iraq was not urgent.

Bush did not consult congress before bombing Iraq.

 

[Moot]

Absolute LIES

I speak the truth.

1) Saddam used WMD's on the Kurds ....

Not after the Gulf War, UN inspections and UN US sanctions, he didn't.

2) Al Queda was in Iraq and its leadership getting medical attention

Why don't you provide the evidence then?

) You nailed one - not urgent -

Good.

4) WHICH IS WHY BUSH GOT APPROVAL IN SEPTEMBER and INVADED IN MARCH
a) Iraq Resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
b) Iraq War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bush did not get congressional approval before he and Tony Blair started bombing Iraq in April/June 2002 to September 2002.


"...This apparent escalation in the number and intensity of air strikes was initiated prior to the passage of UN Resolution 1441 in November 2002 and prior to the US Congress authorizing the use of force against Iraq in October 2002. Critics claim that this was an attempt to provoke Saddam Hussein or soften his military infrastructure in preparation for a more comprehensive military campaign, and that it reaffirms their assertions that the Bush administrations was determined to go to war long before the official decision was made....read...."
UK and U.S. bombing raids against Iraq increased in 2002 - Wikinews, the free news source


The operation lasted from June 2002 until the beginning of the invasion in March 2003. It was intended to be a "softening up" period prior to invasion, degrading Iraq's air defense and communication abilities. Lieutenant General T. Michael Moseley revealed the operation's existence in mid-2003.[1]...<snip>

The tonnage of bombs dropped increased from 0 in March 2002 and 0.3 in April 2002 to between 7 and 14 tons per month in May-August, reaching a pre-war peak of 54.6 tons in September - prior to Congress' 11 October authorisation of the invasion. The September attacks included a 5 September 100-aircraft attack on the main air defence site in western Iraq. According to New Statesman this was "Located at the furthest extreme of the southern no-fly zone, far away from the areas that needed to be patrolled to prevent attacks on the Shias, it was destroyed not because it was a threat to the patrols, but to allow allied special forces operating from Jordan to enter Iraq undetected."
Operation Southern Focus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"...American air war commanders carried out a comprehensive plan to disrupt Iraq's military command and control system before the Iraq war, according to an internal briefing on the conflict by the senior allied air war commander. Known as Southern Focus, the plan called for attacks on the network of fiber-optic cable that Saddam Hussein's government used to transmit military communications, as well as airstrikes on key command centers, radars and other important military assets.

The strikes, which were conducted from mid-2002 into the first few months of 2003, were justified publicly at the time as a reaction to Iraqi violations of a no-flight zone that the United States and Britain established in southern Iraq. But Lt. Gen. T. Michael Moseley, the chief allied war commander, said the attacks also laid the foundations for the military campaign against the Baghdad government.

Indeed, one reason it was possible for the allies to begin the ground campaign to topple Mr. Hussein without preceding it with an extensive array of airstrikes was that 606 bombs had been dropped on 391 carefully selected targets under the plan, General Moseley said....
AFTER THE WAR: PRELIMINARIES; U.S. Air Raids In '02 Prepared For War in Iraq - New York Times


"...The Sunday Times of London recently reported on new evidence showing that "The RAF and US aircraft doubled the rate at which they were dropping bombs on Iraq in 2002 in an attempt to provoke Saddam Hussein into giving the allies an excuse for war." The paper cites newly released statistics from the British Defense Ministry showing that "the Allies dropped twice as many bombs on Iraq in the second half of 2002 as they did during the whole of 2001" and that "a full air offensive" was under way months before the invasion had officially begun.

The implications of this information for US lawmakers are profound. It was already well known in Washington and international diplomatic circles that the real aim of the US attacks in the no-fly zones was not to protect Shiites and Kurds. But the new disclosures prove that while Congress debated whether to grant Bush the authority to go to war, while Hans Blix had his UN weapons-inspection teams scrutinizing Iraq and while international diplomats scurried to broker an eleventh-hour peace deal, the Bush Administration was already in full combat mode--not just building the dossier of manipulated intelligence, as the Downing Street memo demonstrated, but acting on it by beginning the war itself. And according to the Sunday Times article, the Administration even hoped the attacks would push Saddam into a response that could be used to justify a war the Administration was struggling to sell....read.....
The Other Bomb Drops | The Nation



In his January 2002 State of the Union Address, Bush declared that countries like Iraq, Iran, and North Korea "constitute an axis of evil . . . These regimes pose a grave and growing danger . . . I will not wait on events, while dangers gather." As early as February 2002, the Bush administration took concrete steps to deploy military troops and assets into Iraq without advising Congress or seeking its approval. By late March, Dick Cheney told his fellow Republicans that a decision had been made to invade Iraq. The same month, Bush poked his head into Condoleezza Rice’s office and said, “**** Saddam. We’re taking him out.”

In July 2002, a highly classified document titled CentCom Courses of Action was leaked to the New York Times. Prepared two months earlier, it contained what the Pentagon labeled a "war plan" for invading Iraq. The document, which indicated an advanced stage of planning, called for tens of thousands of marines and soldiers to attack Iraq from the air, land, and sea to topple Saddam Hussein....read
Iraq: A War of Aggression. No WMDs, No Connection to Al Qaeda | Global Research


POP goes your bubble.

 

[CalGun]

So you are taking billy Jeff's no fly zone authorization that Bush Jr used and calling it an invasion....so much failure. People that distort truths and lie are irrelevant.

 

[jonny5]

So you are taking billy Jeff's no fly zone authorization that Bush Jr used and calling it an invasion....so much failure. People that distort truths and lie are irrelevant.

I might say the same of people who use name calling and sarcasm.

 

[tererun]

Not in this country it doesn't. Learn the last 70 years of our history.

I was waiting a little longer on this one to truly use the clue by four. First you try to say that war, which needs congress to declare it, will happen with just Obama's say so. Stalemate does mean no declaration of war. Which according to the technical people out there means we will be doing something aside from war. But it seems it doesn't even mean we will be bombing them as of this point. You seemed very certain Obama would do something on his own, but now he has handed it back to congress where a stalemate would mean not approving military action in Syria and that means no war or military action like I said.

I may not like some of the things Obama does, but when he leads people like you with enough rope to hang themselves with, and you make outlandish statements based on that extra rope, I do so love pulling it taught and choking the life out of your BS argument.