• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

2 questions show all her testimony was bunk

L

ludin

DP Veteran
Joined
Dec 3, 2013
Messages
57,470
Reaction score
14,587
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
All it took was 2 questions and 30 seconds for the ambassador to show nothing she said implicates trump.

7 hours of nonsense undone by 2 questions.

Chris Stewart takedown of Yovanovitch shows Democrats have '''no case,''' GOP says | Fox News

I would now feel compelled to ask you, Madam Ambassador, as you sit here before us, very simply and directly, do you have any information regarding the president of the United States accepting any bribes?"
Yovanovitch: No

"Do you have any information regarding any criminal activity that the president of the United States has been involved with at all?"

Yovanovitch: "No.
 
Last edited:
Re: 3 questions show all her testimony was bunk

Impeachment = Complete farce
 

But, but she’s a trooper. She endured 7 hours in front of those mean white men. Let’s all stand up and applaud. Such a trooper. They should make a statue of her next to the statue of Blasey Ford. Such troopers.
This is a key witness? LOL
 

I could have sworn I saw you say you were done bothering to watch these hearings back on Wed.

When I keep seeing these threads you guys are piling on it gives the impression you're trying to convince each other "there's nothing there!" Kind of like the president keeps trying to convince us all "the call was perfect!". :lamo
 

I am not watching it.
There isn't anything there she admitted it.
Took 30 seconds.
 
ludin said:
I am not watching it.
There isn't anything there she admitted it.
Took 30 seconds.
Click to expand...

:lamo Your repeatedly posting on the topic (while it was live) says otherwise.
 
Outlook said:
But, but she’s a trooper. She endured 7 hours in front of those mean white men. Let’s all stand up and applaud. Such a trooper. They should make a statue of her next to the statue of Blasey Ford. Such troopers.
This is a key witness? LOL
Click to expand...

I'm a trooper. You? You just complain about women?
 

Right, because we all know that there can only be ONE impeachment charge!

Oh, no we don't, that's the dumbest idea of all time, that the GOP members in that hearing today appeared convinced was enough for their base. That's a sad reflection on what the GOP think of their voters. Seriously. They're treating GOP supporters like not too bright middle schoolers.

For the rest of us, the President using his personal attorney to smear a U.S. Ambassador with lies, in an underhanded, dishonest effort to get her removed and her reputation ruined, is abuse of power, all by itself!
 

Thats why they wanted her out...so she wouldn't get in the way of Rudi, Lev and Igor's criminal activities to benefit Trump.
 
Outlook said:
But, but she’s a trooper. She endured 7 hours in front of those mean white men. Let’s all stand up and applaud. Such a trooper. They should make a statue of her next to the statue of Blasey Ford. Such troopers.
This is a key witness? LOL
Click to expand...

This isn't a key witness at all. This witness has only peripheral relevance and is only slightly negative about Trump. Given that, and given Trump's response, do any of you Trump supporters wish he would just shut the hell up? I mean, the serious stuff is still to come and Trump has already gone all-in attack. If anyone in the Republican party has Trump's interests at heart they'll find a way to shut him up, and soon.
Or maybe the Republican party is already seeing a way to President Pence leading them into the election.
 
Re: 3 questions show all her testimony was bunk

3leftsdoo said:
Impeachment = Complete farce
Click to expand...

Trump = loose cannon
GOP = route to President Pence
 
If she was not a key witness, why did she get a star treatment?

That she was featured this highly indicates they are desperate.
 

If what you are watching is beyond your comprehension, just say so, or say nothing.
'The witnesses so far have only told about how the Trump Whitehouse almost buried a county and all of their citizens through incompetency.

A country fighting corruption, voted for a man that was going to fight corruption. The very thing the U.S. has been championing since the Russians annexed Crimea. So what does this administration do at the first chance? They try to corrupt the new president by making him a party to the president's domestic agenda.

If by doing this, we subject the Ukrainian people to Russian control for them and their children for generations to come, so be it. What really counts is the next U.S. election.

Instead of being ashamed of your President, and by extension your country, you try to act like the problem is the officials that have been trying to succeed with America's foreign policy goals.
 

She was marched into the hearing so Schiff could keep the emotional Democrats riled up.

It's all about her "wittle feeeelings"
 
ecofarm said:
I'm a trooper. You? You just complain about women?
Click to expand...

I’m just glad the democrats didn’t hurt her feelings. I thought she was their equal so why did they treat her like a pawn.
 

The witness had no relevance. The House needs to get back to work.
 



She answered no because the determination of what is or is not criminal activity is not for her to decide.

She answered in the negative because she is non partisan, and for a non partisan where determining crimes is not in her job description, that is the only answer she can give.


Jeezus frickin' christ republicans who make this argument are plain stupid.


If what's-his-face were not disingenuous, he would have framed the question this way, which might have gotten a different answer:

"Do you have any information regarding the president which congress might determine to be criminal activity and/or impeachable offenses?"
 
Last edited:
Outlook said:
But, but she’s a trooper. She endured 7 hours in front of those mean white men. Let’s all stand up and applaud. Such a trooper. They should make a statue of her next to the statue of Blasey Ford. Such troopers.
This is a key witness? LOL
Click to expand...
I caught the applause at the end too. Who was that, the media? It was bizarre

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
 

You should hang out a shingle. You would make a terrific attorney.....NOT!!!
 
Rudy and the Gang had to get Yovanovitch out of the way in order to slither around Ukraine doing their dirty work for DonDon and collect a few deals for themselves. They had to get her out and depend on the time element before an Acting Ambassador could be named. They wanted to get a head start on anybody coming in. So they smeared her, had been smearing her since 2018, had her recalled the very day Zalinsky was being sworn in as the new Ukraine President and slithered around unfettered for the month it took for Taylor to come in and get up to speed.

That is why Yovanovitch's testimony was important today. Trump of course wants everybody to concentrate on the July 25th TelCon regardless of how incriminating it is. But this case is being built block by block. Sorry DonDon.

I do expect the same News Channel BS especially this weekend when the 2nd string is in. The usual checking the pulse of GOP Senators every 10 seconds will be the order of the day. "Has the needle moved yet? How about now? How about now.....etc etc etc. Stupid Americans will fall for the dog pile on the carpet BS every time.
 
trouble13 said:
I caught the applause at the end too. Who was that, the media? It was bizarre

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

Did you see how Schiff treated the witness? Didn’t want to hurt her feelings. He was playing the gender strategy. It was pitiful.
Compare that with how he treated his female republican colleague.
 
Outlook said:
Did you see how Schiff treated the witness? Didn’t want to hurt her feelings. He was playing the gender strategy. It was pitiful.
Compare that with how he treated his female republican colleague.
Click to expand...
Thats the typical double standard of how women are treated depending on their politics. Its not right but its not unusaul either.

What im curious about is who was in the audience of the hearings. Did they pack it full of lefties from the public or was it mostly media people covering the hearings?

The public applauding for her is one thing but if it was the press thats another matter. Im glad they are putting their bias on open display, it dispells any myth of them objectively covering any of this for anyone paying attention.

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
 

The importance of Yovanovich’s testimony dealt with other matters:

1. The shadow foreign policy being conducted by Giuliani was directly at odds with official US foreign policy, which was to help Ukraine fight corruption, bring them into the fold of the West and stand up to Russian aggression. At the forefront of this was Yavanovich, who was extremely good at fighting corruption. She has, in fact, received numerous awards in her 33 year career. This put her at direct odds with the eminently corrupt Yuri Lutsenko. Lutsenko fed conspiracy theories that he himself later disavowed to Giuliani, who fed them to Trump. Among the conspiracy theories were smears, such as that Yavanovich was disloyal to Trump and that she had created a “do not prosecute” list, both of which were objectively untrue. Trump gobbled the CT and the false allegations up, and she was out. With her out of the way, the shadow foreign policy could proceed unhindered.

2. The fact that she was extremely good at fighting corruption...and the fact that this was her primary purpose...deep sixes Trump supporters’ narrative that he just wanted to ferret out corruption.

This contains a pretty good rundown of what happened. How the smear campaign against Yovanovitch snowballed | FiveThirtyEight
 
Jay59 said:
If she was not a key witness, why did she get a star treatment?

That she was featured this highly indicates they are desperate.
Click to expand...

Just wait. The best is yet to come.
 
Outlook said:
The witness had no relevance. The House needs to get back to work.
Click to expand...

Got a big reaction from Cheeto Mussolini for something That's irrelevant.
But just wait. The best is yet to come.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Menu
Log in
Register
Cookies are required to use this site. You must accept them to continue using the site. Learn more…