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It’s possible, depends on if the prosecution is willing to retry them.Does the mistrial for the two mean a new trial is coming?
That would be the district attorney's decision.Does the mistrial for the two mean a new trial is coming?
There is the possibility that they did not do what the government accused them of, right?Hardly surprising, really. If they're in the same venue, the odds of getting a few right wing lunatics on the jury pretty much approach unity.
Really? Couldn't just wait for more details before jumping off into crazy landThere is the possibility that they did not do what the government accused them of, right?
There may have been one left wing lunatic holding this up for the past 5 days. Truth is, we do not know either way.
See post #3.Really? Couldn't just wait for more details before jumping off into crazy land
Same dealSee post #3.
The biggest factor in that will be how the deadlock went, if more then four jurors were set on acquitting I doubt a new trial will come.It’s possible, depends on if the prosecution is willing to retry them.
That...is extraordinary. But get just one q-anon, trump supporter, antimasker or antivaxxer on the jury and that's end game.(CNN) - A federal jury on Friday found two men accused of plotting to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer not guilty of kidnapping conspiracy and a mistrial was declared for two other defendants.
Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Daniel Harris and Brandon Caserta faced federal charges for allegedly conspiring to kidnap the Democratic governor.
Harris and Caserta were found not guilty of kidnapping conspiracy. The jury also found Harris not guilty on other charges. The jury could not reach a verdict for Fox and Croft, after which US District Judge Robert Jonker declared a mistrial for those defendants.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/08/politics/whitmer-trial/index.html
That was unexpected. It will be interesting to see the analysis of the verdicts.
For a mistrial, but not the acquittals.That...is extraordinary. But get just one q-anon, trump supporter, antimasker or antivaxxer on the jury and that's end game.
Then get nearly all q-anons, trump supporters, antimaskers or antivaxxers on the jury and that's end game.For a mistrial, but not the acquittals.
I didn’t follow the trial, but isn’t it possible the government’s case was bad and failed to prove they were guilty?Then get nearly all q-anons, trump supporters, antimaskers or antivaxxers on the jury and that's end game.
Of course it's possible. But that would have to be the worst prosecution on earth, which is not to say that those don't exist. Those of us watched the Derek Chauvin trial knew that it was the prosecution's to lose, and there was a famous point in the trial where they came *this close* to potentially screwing it all up. But there was always the potential for biased jurors, and it's incredibly difficult to think that wasn't the case here.I didn’t follow the trial, but isn’t it possible the government’s case was bad and failed to prove they were guilty?
Holy shit
Which doesn't mean they are innocent and doesn't mean they didn't plan on kidnapping the woman and her family.Tried to warn you all. The case stunk on ice.
If you were following the situation it turns out that the FBI instigated the whole kidnapping scheme. It was a case of entrapment as much as anything else.(CNN) - A federal jury on Friday found two men accused of plotting to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer not guilty of kidnapping conspiracy and a mistrial was declared for two other defendants.
Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Daniel Harris and Brandon Caserta faced federal charges for allegedly conspiring to kidnap the Democratic governor.
Harris and Caserta were found not guilty of kidnapping conspiracy. The jury also found Harris not guilty on other charges. The jury could not reach a verdict for Fox and Croft, after which US District Judge Robert Jonker declared a mistrial for those defendants.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/08/politics/whitmer-trial/index.html
That was unexpected. It will be interesting to see the analysis of the verdicts.
Of course it's possible. But that would have to be the worst prosecution on earth, which is not to say that those don't exist. Those of us watched the Derek Chauvin trial knew that it was the prosecution's to lose, and there was a famous point in the trial where they came *this close* to potentially screwing it all up. But there was always the potential for biased jurors, and it's incredibly difficult to think that wasn't the case here.
I didn’t follow the trial very closely, but I was aware of the entrapment accusations.If you were following the situation it turns out that the FBI instigated the whole kidnapping scheme. It was a case of entrapment as much as anything else.
This is a Federal Judicial District, the Western District of Michigan which includes the cities of Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo, Lansing, and Marquette.Hardly surprising, really. If they're in the same venue, the odds of getting a few right wing lunatics on the jury pretty much approach unity.
Which doesn't mean they are innocent and doesn't mean they didn't plan on kidnapping the woman and her family.
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