14th Amendment

[Gordy327]

Oh please. No one forces you to have recreational sex either. If that's your argument, you might as well stop now.

Sex isn't the issue. Although consent is required from the parties involved.

Taxation is taking from people against their will. Of course it's bodily autonomy.

Taxation is used for services by the government which people utilize. Paying taxes may infringe on my finances, but it does not infringe or affect my autonomy.

 

[redbeer]

Nobody has the right to live inside another person against their will.

Somebody needs properly educated on the results of sex.

 

[redbeer]

Nope...see the word 'any?' So it means the words defined: 'person,' 'child', 'human being,' and 'individual' do not apply to "any member of the species homo sapiens at any point prior to being “born alive” as defined in this section.'

Again, you exemplify a major failure in English education.

You should look closely at suing for return of college expenses and tuition, for they did a hilarious job of educating.

 

[Gordy327]

Somebody needs properly educated on the results of sex.

And somebody need an education on relevance and the Constitution.

You should look closely at suing for return of college expenses and tuition, for they did a hilarious job of educating.

Says the one apparently not understanding the Constitution.

 

[Lursa]

You should look closely at suing for return of college expenses and tuition, for they did a hilarious job of educating.

Your "na huh" is just more proof you cant understand it. You have not "corrected" me...you failed to understand the basic sentence structure and words.

If the federal govt recognized rights for the unborn, why does the Dobbs decision allow the unborn to be killed?

 

[quip]

The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 specifically garners rights to the unborn, even calling them "a child", yet exempt it from abortion but it clearly means they don't see the unborn as nonpersons without zero rights as you are espousing. That all stems from the misinterpretation of 1 US code 8a as shown.

Per the Unborn Victims of Violence Act:

Nothing in this section shall be construed to permit the prosecution—​

‘‘(1) of any person for conduct relating to an abortion for which the consent of the pregnant woman, or a person authorized by law to act on her behalf, has been obtained or for which such consent is implied by law​

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Are you continuing to deny the obvious?

 

[Lursa]

Per the Unborn Victims of Violence Act:

Nothing in this section shall be construed to permit the prosecution—​

‘‘(1) of any person for conduct relating to an abortion for which the consent of the pregnant woman, or a person authorized by law to act on her behalf, has been obtained or for which such consent is implied by law​

​

Are you continuing to deny the obvious?

Thank you. Obviously there's no right to life recognized, again demonstrating his poor competence with the English language.

 

[quip]

Thank you. Obviously there's no right to life recognized, again demonstrating his poor competence with the English language.

The word 'right' shows up zero times within the act.

 

[redbeer]

Your "na huh" is just more proof you cant understand it. You have not "corrected" me...you failed to understand the basic sentence structure and words.

If the federal govt recognized rights for the unborn, why does the Dobbs decision allow the unborn to be killed?

You take a tid bit here, tid bit there, take them out of context and draw a wrong conclusion.

 

[redbeer]

Per the Unborn Victims of Violence Act:

Nothing in this section shall be construed to permit the prosecution—​

‘‘(1) of any person for conduct relating to an abortion for which the consent of the pregnant woman, or a person authorized by law to act on her behalf, has been obtained or for which such consent is implied by law​

​

Are you continuing to deny the obvious?

Yes, I know abortion is exempted.....please pay attention before posting. That doesn't mean an unborn child is without rights.

 

[Gordy327]

Yes, I know abortion is exempted.....please pay attention before posting. That doesn't mean an unborn child is without rights.

You haven't demonstrated where the unborn have rights. Just empty claims not backed by the Constitution or federal law!

 

[quip]

Yes, I know abortion is exempted.....please pay attention before posting. That doesn't mean an unborn child is without rights.

No, they've no formal rights. Rather, they're legally recognized as to be protected from third-party violence. That's all.
Don't conflate recognition with rights.

 

[quip]

You take a tid bit here, tid bit there, take them out of context and draw a wrong conclusion.

She just applied reason and logic to the situation. It would behoove you to do the same.

 

[redbeer]

She just applied reason and logic to the situation. It would behoove you to do the same.

That's what trinitarians say, when they attempt to prove 3 persons are 1 being. The exact same type of reason and logic.....it's faulty and a vain attempt to prove a negative. They'll take a little here and there, combine them together and invent a doctrine absent in the actual text.

 

[Lursa]

You take a tid bit here, tid bit there, take them out of context and draw a wrong conclusion.

That's a lie, I did no such thing. I've explained them, trying to simplify as much as possible and you still cant understand. But the entire US Code 8 has been posted, as has the entire first section of the 14th Amendment. It's not my fault you cant understand them.

As for your citations, if the feds recognize rights for the unborn, how many times do you have to be asked to quote where? And why wont you address this?

If the federal govt recognized rights for the unborn, why does the Dobbs decision allow the unborn to be killed?

 

[Lursa]

Yes, I know abortion is exempted.....please pay attention before posting. That doesn't mean an unborn child is without rights.

The Dobbs decision clearly means they dont.