The Washington Times is a right-wing propaganda sheet.
I won't be wasting any time there.
"The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." ~ Tommy Smothers
This monstrous story buried by the networks. Instead they focus on TWO escaped convicts in new york.
Not accused - convicted. These were convicted criminals that the administration decided to release anyway.
More than 100 immigrants whom the Obama administration released back into the community went on to be charged with subsequent killings, according to government data released Monday that raises more questions about whether immigration authorities are doing enough to detail illegal immigrants awaiting deportation.
:doh fail. So ICE is incapable of, oh, say, I don't know, handing them back over to the Justice System?
Who had ad-hominem second post in? Who won the raffle?
This monstrous story buried by the networks. Instead they focus on TWO escaped convicts in new york.
I don't believe that it's hyperbole or exaggeration to say that the USA can't arrest and lock up12 million illegal immigrants at one time, so another solution will have to be found.
You you have an answer?
Well, OK so you do want a Berlin Wall. Great. And we'll have to search all truck traffic and the trunks of all cars and ships and boats, etc. Sounds doable to me, and then we can get illegal immigration to zero and ISIS isn't a threat.
From the OP's article: "...33 of those were ordered released by immigration courts and another 24 were released because of a 2001 Supreme Court decision capping the time an immigrant can be detained to six months..."
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Actually it's 40 million and they would self-deport if we stopped giving them welfare and free health care and free k-12 for their kids..Next question
How many times must we explain this.? Stop giving them jobs and freebies and the illegals will leave.
You'll need to talk to Democrat politicians, who want them here so they can stack the vote for Democrats going forward - it's the future plan to dominate American politics with Progressive ideals.You'll need to talk to a bunch of GOP business owners, the Chamber, etc. to stop the jobs flow. They seem to like paying low wages for dependable work.
You couldn't be more wrong. The promise of citizenship without all the hassles of actual waiting, the promise of hundreds of state and federal aid programs, housing, food, and an instant uptick in "the poor" without all the suffering as well as continuing the narrative that Conservatives are "racists" if they don't support illegals staying in the country and getting all the freebies.BTW, it's not the freebies. The net inflow of illegals since Obama took over is ZERO (negative actually). The reason is the jobs depression. If they came for freebies, we'd have seen the same net +500,000 per YEAR (not quite +4 million total) that crossed over during the Bush administration.
Actually it's 40 million and they would self-deport if we stopped giving them welfare and free health care and free k-12 for their kids. Next question.
You'll need to talk to Democrat politicians, who want them here so they can stack the vote for Democrats going forward - it's the future plan to dominate American politics with Progressive ideals.
You couldn't be more wrong. The promise of citizenship without all the hassles of actual waiting, the promise of hundreds of state and federal aid programs, housing, food, and an instant uptick in "the poor" without all the suffering as well as continuing the narrative that Conservatives are "racists" if they don't support illegals staying in the country and getting all the freebies.
Trump said they don't send their best. But everyone freaked out and called him a bigot.
Really have to ask that? How old are you? I guess you don't know many people from the old countries like Italy, Germany, Ireland, England that came here in the late 1800s through 1920s and made this nation great.I'm not sure he's a bigot, but he is an idiot. When has the U.S. ever got the "best" from another country. If they were doing great in their homeland, why would our ancestors have abandoned it all and came here? We've always welcomed people who had no opportunity in their home country and came here. The only difference is most of our ancestors were poor and white and the one's Trump's complaining about are Hispanic.
If you were in Mexico and poor and had a family, what would you do? Stay there where you know there is little hope for a better future, or walk over and take one of the millions of jobs that WELCOME undocumented labor, and give your family a shot at a better life? It's either stupid or bigoted to insult those people who I HOPE I'd emulate if I was in their shoes.
The fat cat 1% Democrats love it too, they're creating sanctuary cities all over the place and the federal government is giving free undisclosed bus rides to all the illegals that came across the border last year, to cities who were not told. They LOVE illegals, and if Progressives get their way, they'll bypass the Constitution to give citizen's rights to illegals in this country.I think you mean Democratic politicians, but there's a good reason Reagan signed the only amnesty in my adult lifetime and Bush tried like heck for another one, and why during the Bush administration about +4 million illegals crossed over. The Chamber boys love immigration, illegal or otherwise, and they're big donors to the GOPers. Keeps wages low, the labor is dependable and disposable and doesn't complain because if they do they can be deported.
Sure it's bipartisan - but for totally different reasons. Progressives want a political dynasty on the backs of illegals .... business (from both sides of the political aisle) want cheap labor.If you want to say that it's a bipartisan thing, fine, but what you can't do is point to any evidence the GOP has any real interest in shutting off the flow of illegals. There just doesn't exist any - at least not at the upper levels. There is some grassroots opposition, but that doesn't translate to actual policy.
Stats and studies are relatively meaningless .... you can make stats say anything you want, and everyone from every point of view hires companies to publish studies that tell the story they want to promote.I've posted the stats a few dozen times. Since Obama took over the net flow is ZERO. In the eight years prior, about +4,000,000. If you want to say it's the freebies, and the rest, why did it STOP with the recession? Maybe it's that Obama did a better job of controlling the border than Bush? OK, I can go with that if you will.
Really have to ask that? How old are you? I guess you don't know many people from the old countries like Italy, Germany, Ireland, England that came here in the late 1800s through 1920s and made this nation great.
The fat cat 1% Democrats love it too, they're creating sanctuary cities all over the place and the federal government is giving free undisclosed bus rides to all the illegals that came across the border last year, to cities who were not told. They LOVE illegals, and if Progressives get their way, they'll bypass the Constitution to give citizen's rights to illegals in this country.
Sure it's bipartisan - but for totally different reasons. Progressives want a political dynasty on the backs of illegals .... business (from both sides of the political aisle) want cheap labor.
Stats and studies are relatively meaningless .... you can make stats say anything you want, and everyone from every point of view hires companies to publish studies that tell the story they want to promote.
One of my favorite books.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Lie_with_Statistics
History is always good to reflect on, but it's 7 years later. Why do the Democrats want to pass the NY is Home bill in NY, or give healthcare to illegals for free as part of immigration reform if they aren't bypassing the Constitution? Joe Wilson was right. Why has Obama's INS let 60+ thousand illegals free from US jails and calls them "dreamers" if not to stack the vote for Progressives in the future?Well, what did the Federal government do with the 500,000 per year that came in the Bush administration. Probably harder to get them settled than the NET ZERO since 2008.
No, the biggest draw is freebies - anchor children, welfare, housing, SNAP cards --- just make sure you vote DEMOCRAT when you want to keep all that stuff. Wink wink.OK, fine, but the draw is the jobs.
Easily manipulated evidence you swallow hook line and sinker because it confirms your bias is okay, but when someone questions it.... here's a study that says eating dirt is good for you, and it actually has a name - geophagy.LOL, the evidence doesn't confirm your biases so you reject the evidence. Hilarious.
Polls are a snapshot in time and many times the snapshot methodology isn't provided or is biased in it's questions. Like I said, you want to swallow whatever confirms your biases but when someone questions it, you get offended. :shrug:If you want to reject Pew and at least a half dozen other surveys that attempt to measure the illegal population and which all show the same general trends, and have no alternative evidence to present, all you're saying is you don't care about facts, you have your opinions and you're sticking to them no matter how much they conflict with those facts.
What would "I" do?. I would do what my grand parents did. Work. Raise a family that works, owns businesses, graduates from college, serves our nations armed forces and instills its values to next generations.What I know is almost none of them were the "best" from those countries. Give me a break. Most of them came here with NOTHING, and they came here for the same reason Hispanics come here - for the opportunities this country offers them and their families.
And, again, what would YOU do in their shoes. Stay in a crap country run by thugs and drug kingpins that offers you and your family almost no opportunity, or walk across the border and overnight provide yourself and your family with FAR more opportunities for a better life? I know what I HOPE I'd do - take the employers here up on their offer for (comparably) great jobs and a better life for my family.
I'm not trying to insult the immigrants you speak of, but the point is there is really little or no difference between the vast majority of all of our ancestors and the Hispanics coming here today.
40 million people here illegally? Where did you get that figure? Stormfront or WND?
And you're right, if the parents bring kids over, or have them while they're here, f**k the kids. If the kiddies get sick, we really should just let them die, keep the population down, and those kids sure don't need any education. After all, they can steal or sell drugs for a living if they can't work a job when they grow up. Excellent points all around on this subject!
If you read the story, in fact almost all of them were released directly consistent with our laws. Many were released because of the SC ruling in 2001, and the rest were released because we don't have the facilities to hold them all in detention for the time it takes for the cases to legally work through the process. The story pointed out ONE person who clearly was a bad mistake.
And the bottom line is our justice system releases criminals into the streets every hour of every day - thousands of them, out on bail, parole, who go on to commit horrible crimes. It's a risk we know about and we accept because the alternatives are worse. If there is a better alternative for non-violent illegals, then someone should suggest it. Berlin Wall to cut off illegal immigration, a few hundred more prisons, overruling the SC? Not sure what it would take to take the risk of released illegals to zero.
History is always good to reflect on, but it's 7 years later. Why do the Democrats want to pass the NY is Home bill in NY, or give healthcare to illegals for free as part of immigration reform if they aren't bypassing the Constitution? Joe Wilson was right. Why has Obama's INS let 60+ thousand illegals free from US jails and calls them "dreamers" if not to stack the vote for Progressives in the future?
See this is happening now - not 7 years ago.
No, the biggest draw is freebies - anchor children, welfare, housing, SNAP cards --- just make sure you vote DEMOCRAT when you want to keep all that stuff. Wink wink.
Easily manipulated evidence you swallow hook line and sinker because it confirms your bias is okay, but when someone questions it....
Polls are a snapshot in time and many times the snapshot methodology isn't provided or is biased in it's questions. Like I said, you want to swallow whatever confirms your biases but when someone questions it, you get offended. :shrug:
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