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12-Foot, Overweight Black Woman Statue Erected In Times Square As 'Contrast' To 'White Men' Hero Statues (1 Viewer)

vanceen said:
Maybe. Here in Houston there are Picasso sculptures in the Museum of Fine Arts. A fair bit of time an money went into those, but I don't see any motivations behind them except the art (and maybe the desire of the artist to earn a living).

I don't fully understand your last sentence, sorry.
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What do you mean by "art"?

What makes you think Picasso works are "art" and why is this statue "art"?

Or is your point about making a living really more relevant, and this is all about money?
 
Fletch said:
Yes. Its like if you have to explain a joke, its not really all that funny. It sort of yells out that there are no actual black men or women who have done anything to be worthy of a statue of their own.
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Is this a staute of someone who has done something worthy of a statue?
 
Metric Mouse said:
What do you mean by "art"?

What makes you think Picasso works are "art" and why is this statue "art"?

Or is your point about making a living really more relevant, and this is all about money?
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The first definition from the Oxford Languages dictionary works fine for me:

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1.
the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.
"the art of the Renaissance"[/quote]

I don't know precisely what you mean by "this" in your last question. If you mean art in general, earning a living comes into it but I don't see it as the primary motivator.
 
j brown's body said:
I suspect it would be defaced because people see Trump as an authoritarian and a threat to democracy.
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Well that's unfortunate I guess.

But peaceful, destructive protest of this statue, if it happens, will be another thing New Yorkers do.
 
vanceen said:
The first definition from the Oxford Languages dictionary works fine for me:

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1.
the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.
"the art of the Renaissance"
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I don't know precisely what you mean by "this" in your last question. If you mean art in general, earning a living comes into it but I don't see it as the primary motivator.
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No, I was referring to the "emotional power" part of your definition.

What makes this piece "emotionally powerful.", in the artist's eyes, viewers eyes or anyone else's.
 
Metric Mouse said:
I don't know precisely what you mean by "this" in your last question. If you mean art in general, earning a living comes into it but I don't see it as the primary motivator.
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No, I was referring to the "emotional power" part of your definition.

What makes this piece "emotionally powerful.", in the artist's eyes, viewers eyes or anyone else's.
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Mmmm... The word "this" I was asking about was in the post that preceded my post, in which I quoted the definition I had found. I'm having trouble seeing how it could be referring to something in the definition itself, since that had not yet been posted.

I don't think anyone has ever defined exactly how any piece of art achieves "beauty or emotional power" (to quote the definition again).
 
vanceen said:
I don't think anyone has ever defined exactly how any piece of art achieves "beauty or emotional power" (to quote the definition again).
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Of course they have. That's what makes art different from not art.

If you can't find a beautiful or emotional element to this statue, then it is probably not art.
 
Personally, I don’t much care about this issue. But I would suggest that if you’re gong to erect a statue of a Black woman, then do one that really existed. There are many great Black women you could make a monument to, i.e. Sojourner Truth, Ida Wells Barnett, Mary McLeod Bethune, Fannie Lou Hamer, etc.

Mark
 
Fletch said:
Nope. Thats why people are wondering why its there.
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What did this pigeon do that earned it a statue in NYC?

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How about this cow?

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