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12-Foot, Overweight Black Woman Statue Erected In Times Square As 'Contrast' To 'White Men' Hero Statues (1 Viewer)

j brown's body said:
I can't tell you how much I used to hear this in reference to music when I worked in a record store. A person's music was considered art by some people and garbage by others. Recognizing that it all relied on the ear of the beholder, I determined music that I thought was garbage "simply didn't speak to me."

In other words, it was more about me than the music.
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Not the same at all.

Music and art are not the same. This a false equivalent.
 
j brown's body said:
How is it different regarding this specific discussion?
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Music is a matter taste as you described it.
No toddler can create it.

Art can be done by a 1 year old and it can be pronounced art.

There are boundaries in music, even esoteric "noise" has boundries.

Art does not have any such boundries.

Tell me what meaning most sympathies or the cords of stairway to heaven hold?

They are simply pleasing to the ear.

Art is assigned a false narrative to sell it in many cases, like this case.
 
noonereal said:
Music is a matter taste as you described it.
No toddler can create it.

Art can be done by a 1 year old and it can be pronounced art.

There are boundaries in music, even esoteric "noise" has boundries.

Art does not have any such boundries.

Tell me what meaning most sympathies or the cords of stairway to heaven hold?

They are simply pleasing to the ear.

Art is assigned a false narrative to sell it in many cases, like this case.
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Boundaries in music as in all other art, are constantly being pushed outward.

When it occurs, some call it garbage, others call it art.

Minds also change.

Joyce's Ulysses was banned.

Mapplethorpe's photos were banned

Stravinsky's Rite of Spring caused a riot.
 
j brown's body said:
Boundaries in music as in all other art, are constantly being pushed outward.
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As it should.

That is differant than what I spoke to.
The artists self indulgence in self.
The meaning he atributs to this is horseshit.

No one is thinking what he claims it will make people think.
 
what did that black woman do ?


  1. One of the white men is World War I hero Father Francis Duffy who became the most highly decorated cleric in the history of the U.S. Army for his efforts during combat on the Western Front in France. Duffy was honored with the Distinguished Service Cross for his service to the United States which included caring for wounded and dying men.

  3. The other white man is George C. Cohan who is regarded as a Broadway hero who was America's first show business superstar. NPR says Cohan should be remembered as the man who "created Broadway." In other words, without Cohan's efforts in the early 20th century, there's a chance there's no Times Square for the 12-foot overweight black woman to chill for the next couple of months.
 
noonereal said:
As it should.

That is differant than what I spoke to.
The artists self indulgence in self.
The meaning he atributs to this is horseshit.

No one is thinking what he claims it will make people think.
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This is a common response from folks who do not appreciate the boundary art is pushing against. Its quite common. We all feel it from time to tine, depending on what art is challenging us.
 
stealthycat said:
what did that black woman do ?


  1. One of the white men is World War I hero Father Francis Duffy who became the most highly decorated cleric in the history of the U.S. Army for his efforts during combat on the Western Front in France. Duffy was honored with the Distinguished Service Cross for his service to the United States which included caring for wounded and dying men.

  3. The other white man is George C. Cohan who is regarded as a Broadway hero who was America's first show business superstar. NPR says Cohan should be remembered as the man who "created Broadway." In other words, without Cohan's efforts in the early 20th century, there's a chance there's no Times Square for the 12-foot overweight black woman to chill for the next couple of months.
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An anonymous black woman, no less. They are generally considered to be at the bottom of the social hierarchy. Almost like making a statue of a peasant.

food for thought.
 
j brown's body said:
This is a common response from folks who do not appreciate the boundary art is pushing against. Its quite common. We all feel it from time to tine, depending on what art is challenging us.
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ROTFLMAO!!!!

too funny, if you only knew.

Peace
 
anatta said:
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12-Foot, Overweight Black Woman Statue Erected In Times Square As 'Contrast' To 'White Men' Hero Statues

In what's being called a "contrast" to the two white men who have statues in Times Square, a new 12-foot statue of a fictionalized overweight black woman has been erected at Broadway and 46th Street.
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"Installed at ground level on a wide low base, the work invites engagement with the hundreds of thousands of people who traverse the plazas each day, the woman in Grounded in the Stars cuts a stark contrast to the pedestaled permanent monuments — both white, both men — which bookend Duffy Square, while embodying a quiet gravity and grandeur," the Times Square Arts group says on its site.
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another triggered racist poster.
 
j brown's body said:
An anonymous black woman, no less. They are generally considered to be at the bottom of the social hierarchy. Almost like making a statue of a peasant.

food for thought.
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so put statues up of random people who never accomplished anything

why a black woman? why not a native American? Inuit? a woman with Latino heritage or Samoan or Indian or Puerto Rican etc?
 
stealthycat said:
so put statues up of random people who never accomplished anything

why a black woman? why not a native American? Inuit? a woman with Latino heritage or Samoan or Indian or Puerto Rican etc?
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Give us time!
 
stealthycat said:
so put statues up of random people who never accomplished anything

why a black woman? why not a native American? Inuit? a woman with Latino heritage or Samoan or Indian or Puerto Rican etc?
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As I pointed out, black women hold the lowest spot in the social hierarchy.
 
I think it's a lovely bronze, and beautifully done as a traditional bronze. I'm delighted that talent and skill of that kind has survived
 
Is this statue too fat? Some people take these things too far.

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