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10 years after Reagan’s death: How does Obama's record compare to Reagan's?

That would be surprising.

Still irrelevant and more "blame Bush" noise. I'm starting to wonder if you get paid by the word or by the post.



Obama’s Inflated Jobs Claim
5 million... lol. Oops.


You forget the millions who have permanently dropped out of the work force. 91 million in fact. You're spin is useless against facts.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

WAIT, YOU ARE ARGUING WITH BLS NUMBERS? LOL

Total private
ALL EMPLOYEES

JAN 2009 111,397,000
May 2014 116,594,000

ISN'T THAT OVER 5 MILLION PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS ADDED SINCE OBAMA CAME INTO OFFICE?

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data


I mean, sure, use factcheck from 2012 or go for up to date data!
 
WAIT, YOU ARE ARGUING WITH BLS NUMBERS? LOL

Total private
ALL EMPLOYEES

JAN 2009 111,397,000
May 2014 116,594,000

ISN'T THAT OVER 5 MILLION PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS ADDED SINCE OBAMA CAME INTO OFFICE?

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data


I mean, sure, use factcheck from 2012 or go for up to date data!

WAIT YOU IGNORED THE INFLATED NUMBERS AND THE 91 MILLION PERMENANTLY OUT OF THE JOB FORCE.


Shocker!!
 
Well, if he took a loan against his wages, and you charged him interest, then the tax would be on you.

Nope, if the McCourts borrowed monies, most likely NOT tax deductible, nor would the banks making money on the loan (your assumption) wouldn't be paying taxes on Mccourts money but NEW money they created through the loan
 
Seems the money came from somewhere. If they got a no-interest loan then technically they have to pay taxes on the interest they were not charged. Also, if they do not pay the loan back, then they have to pay interest on the amount of debt that was forgiven.

So, I'm not sure what the problem is. They either pay back all the money with interest, or they pay a tax on that portion which was forgiven.

MANY very wealthy do NOT pay taxes, and MANY pay very little. Look to Romney, if he had taken his FULL deduction for his 'religious' giving, his tax rate would've been below 10% on $20+ million income. He created almost $200 million in 'retirement' funds, yet has paid almost zero taxes on it, giving it almost zero value when the accounts were established!
 
You think Buffet is paying a 30% tax rate in actual taxes paid?

Weird how HE supports the 'job creators' to pay a higher tax rate, above what his Secretary pays right? No most of his income is capital gains, he still thinks those 'job creators' aren't hurt, and there is ZERO evidence that they are. on a higher tax burden like they had pre Reaganomics!
 
WAIT YOU IGNORED THE INFLATED NUMBERS AND THE 91 MILLION PERMENANTLY OUT OF THE JOB FORCE.


Shocker!!

Inflated numbers? lol, Sorry, you want to argue that bring PROOF from today, I'm using BLS numbers. I know job force the ONLY thing right wingers can hang their hat on, after Bush lost 673,000+ PRIVATE sector jobs in 8 years and Obama has slowly rebuilt US from the pit Bush/GOP left US in...
 
Inflated numbers? lol, Sorry, you want to argue that bring PROOF from today, I'm using BLS numbers.
I've already provided you PROOF, which you ignored because you can't debate yourself out of a wet paper bag.

I know job force the ONLY thing right wingers can hang their hat on, after Bush lost 673,000+ PRIVATE sector jobs in 8 years and Obama has slowly rebuilt US from the pit Bush/GOP left US in...
What I know is your posts prove you don't know much at all. I've provided you data in ducks and bunnies format with links. Prove to me you can think and not just cut and paste from Daily Kos.
 
So now it is Reagan's fault, thought it was Bush's fault. Of course Carter, Clinton, and Obama had nothing to do with it as we all know those people who got loans they couldn't pay back voted Republican.


People who got loans? So the people RESPONSIBLE for GIVING the loans (qualifying) to them had nothing to do with it huh?

DUBYA FOUGHT ALL 50 STATE AG'S IN 2003, INVOKING A CIVIL WAR ERA RULE SAYING FEDS RULE ON "PREDATORY" LENDERS!

Predatory Lenders' Partner in Crime

Predatory lending was widely understood to present a looming national crisis.

What did the Bush administration do in response? Did it reverse course and decide to take action to halt this burgeoning scourge?

Not only did the Bush administration do nothing to protect consumers, it embarked on an aggressive and unprecedented campaign to prevent states from protecting their residents from the very problems to which the federal government was turning a blind eye

In 2003, during the height of the predatory lending crisis, the OCC invoked a clause from the 1863 National Bank Act to issue formal opinions preempting all state predatory lending laws, thereby rendering them inoperative

Eliot Spitzer - Predatory Lenders' Partner in Crime


Dubya was warned by the FBI of an "epidemic" of mortgage fraud in 2004. He gave them less resources. Later in 2004 Dubya allowed the leverage rules to go from 12-1 to 33-1 which flooded the market with cheap money!

HOUSEHOLD DEBT UNDER BUSH DOUBLED


Yep, I'd say it was those who took out loans were the problem *shaking head*
 
I've already provided you PROOF, which you ignored because you can't debate yourself out of a wet paper bag.

What I know is your posts prove you don't know much at all. I've provided you data in ducks and bunnies format with links. Prove to me you can think and not just cut and paste from Daily Kos.

Sorry, you use data (and they used) from LATE 2012 THIS IS JUNE 2014. Step up!


OBAMA HAS HAD OVER 9+ MILLION TOTAL private sector jobs created since hitting the Bush bottom March 2010, a NET of 5+ million

LOOK AT THE MONTHLY JOBS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Now are YOU saying data from 2012 is as valid as last months? lol
 
I see the end of the recession in June 2009, I see TARP a Bush program repaid with interest, I see a Democrat Congress from 2007-2011, I see Obama getting everything he asked for in 2009-2010, I see an 842 billion dollar stimulus program for shovel ready jobs that the shovels never arrived to complete and when that failed rather than focus on the economy, Obama focused on healthcare, I see a community agitator with zero leadership skills and his supporters placing blame but never accepting responsibility.

I could go on but it isn't worth it. Still waiting for how those evil rich people prevented you or others from getting a bigger piece of the pie. Maybe it was because you whine too much about what someone else has or pays in taxes vs. working to better yourself.


EIGHT YEARS OF BUSH AND HIS 'JOB CREATOR' POLICIES, WHAT HAPPENED? Oops
 
Sorry, you use data (and they used) from LATE 2012 THIS IS JUNE 2014. Step up!
Sorry you have to disprove what I provided first.


OBAMA HAS PUSHED 9.5 MILLION PEOPLE INTO JOBLESSNESS:

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Here's another ducks and bunnies picture for you

latest_numbers_LNS15000000_2004_2014_all_period_M05_data.gif
 
Well, the policy change that started it was in 1979. What could Reagan have done about it?

Bush didn't ignore the problem, Barney Frank convinced a majority there was no problem. What could Bush do?



REAGAN IGNORED REGULATOR WARNINGS FROM S&L REGULATOR GRAY

Former Treasury Secretary Donald T. Regan said Wednesday he paid little attention to warnings in 1984 by thrift regulator Edwin Gray that there was trouble in the savings and loan industry.

Regan said that was because he didn't trust Gray and because the politics of the 1984 presidential election did not allow President Reagan to renounce his policy of industry deregulation.

Regan told a commission looking into the collapse of the S&L industry that he didn't trust Gray and that as a result, ''we didn't pay that much attention to what Gray was saying'' in 1984 when Gray began warning of serious problems in the S&L industry.

Regan Ignored Gray's Early Warnings Of S&L Troubles



Barney? Barney frank minority member of the GOP MAJORITY HOUSE 1995-JAN 2007? PLEASE tell me his super powers? LOL

One president controlled the regulators that not only let banks stop checking income but cheered them on. And as president Bush could enact the very policies that caused the Bush Mortgage Bubble and he did. And his party controlled congress.



Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse

2004 Republican Convention:

Another priority for a new term is to build an ownership society, because ownership brings security and dignity and independence.
...

Thanks to our policies, home ownership in America is at an all- time high.

(APPLAUSE)

Tonight we set a new goal: 7 million more affordable homes in the next 10 years, so more American families will be able to open the door and say, "Welcome to my home."

YOU TALKING F/F? LOL

June 17, 2004:

(CNN/Money) - Home builders, realtors and others are preparing to fight a Bush administration plan that would require Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to increase financing of homes for low-income people, a home builder group said Thursday.

Home builders fight Bush's low-income housing - Jun. 17, 2004

Fannie, Freddie to Suffer Under New Rule, Frank Says

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac would suffer financially under a Bush administration requirement that they channel more mortgage financing to people with low incomes, said the senior Democrat on a congressional panel that sets regulations for the companies.


So if your narrative is "GSEs are to blame" then you have to blame bush


http://democrats.financialservices....s/112/06-17-04-new-Fannie-goals-Bloomberg.pdf


DUBYA FOUGHT ALL 50 STATE AG'S IN 2003, INVOKING A CIVIL WAR ERA RULE SAYING FEDS RULE ON "PREDATORY" LENDERS!

Predatory Lenders' Partner in Crime

Predatory lending was widely understood to present a looming national crisis.

What did the Bush administration do in response? Did it reverse course and decide to take action to halt this burgeoning scourge?

Not only did the Bush administration do nothing to protect consumers, it embarked on an aggressive and unprecedented campaign to prevent states from protecting their residents from the very problems to which the federal government was turning a blind eye

In 2003, during the height of the predatory lending crisis, the OCC invoked a clause from the 1863 National Bank Act to issue formal opinions preempting all state predatory lending laws, thereby rendering them inoperative

Eliot Spitzer - Predatory Lenders' Partner in Crime



Dubya was warned by the FBI of an "epidemic" of mortgage fraud in 2004. He gave them less resources.

"It has the potential to be an epidemic,"

FBI saw threat of loan crisis - Los Angeles Times

Later in 2004 Dubya allowed the leverage rules to go from 12-1 to 33-1 which flooded the market with cheap money!

WHAT ELSE YOU GOT?
 
Sorry you have to disprove what I provided first.


OBAMA HAS PUSHED 9.5 MILLION PEOPLE INTO JOBLESSNESS:

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Here's another ducks and bunnies picture for you

latest_numbers_LNS15000000_2004_2014_all_period_M05_data.gif


LABOR FORCE? lol, Got it, IGNORE THERE ARE 5+ MILLION MORE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WITH JOBS TODAY THAN THE DAY OBAMA CAME INTO OFFICE! AFTER Bush lost 673,000+ PRIVATE sector jobs using those 'job creator' policies!

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
 
LABOR FORCE? lol, Got it, IGNORE THERE ARE 5+ MILLION MORE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WITH JOBS TODAY THAN THE DAY OBAMA CAME INTO OFFICE! AFTER Bush lost 673,000+ PRIVATE sector jobs using those 'job creator' policies!

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

You know what's funny - I use your own bls.gov link and you continue to deny what it says when it doesn't align with loopy left wing talking points. THAT is why every post you respond to is marginalized and why I will defer from wasting my time going forward. Just a tip: Spewing nonsense with links doesn't pass for intelligence. I myself and 50/50 if the posts coming from dad2three2001 isn't just a rudimentary computer ai program because your posts don't actually acknowledge nor respond to anything - it just repeatedly spews.

Have a nice life.
 
WAIT, YOU ARE ARGUING WITH BLS NUMBERS? LOL

Total private
ALL EMPLOYEES

JAN 2009 111,397,000
May 2014 116,594,000

ISN'T THAT OVER 5 MILLION PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS ADDED SINCE OBAMA CAME INTO OFFICE?

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data


I mean, sure, use factcheck from 2012 or go for up to date data!
The problem with this is that the population also increased. It is still a drop as a percentage of the population.
 
Does this look like the job situation is better?

Percentageofpopulationemployed_zps51b00789.png
 
Of course.. because it had to be the unions and high taxes... cause it certainly wasn't the ability to pay less than 2.00 an hour for Chinese workers... :roll:[/QUOTE

Manufacturers would rather build and hire in the US and tend only to go overseas only when it becomes too difficult to make a profit here. Blame the labor unions and high taxes.
 
The problem with this is that the population also increased. It is still a drop as a percentage of the population.

STILL Obama has more PRIVATE sector job growth ANY month since March 2010 than the total private sector jobs in 8 years of Bush...

Labor force, got it, 673,000+ not bad

5,000,000+ bad
 
Of course.. because it had to be the unions and high taxes... cause it certainly wasn't the ability to pay less than 2.00 an hour for Chinese workers... :roll:[/QUOTE

Manufacturers would rather build and hire in the US and tend only to go overseas only when it becomes too difficult to make a profit here. Blame the labor unions and high taxes.

RIGHT WING CRAP. They go where it's cheaper, period!
 
Does this look like the job situation is better?

Percentageofpopulationemployed_zps51b00789.png

FIVE + MILLION PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS UNDER OBAMA AFTER BUSH LOST 673,000+ IN 8 YEARS? Not counting the 4+ million lost in 2009? (Obama has a TOTAL private sector jobs created of 9+ million since hitting Bush's bottom March 2010)
 
You know what's funny - I use your own bls.gov link and you continue to deny what it says when it doesn't align with loopy left wing talking points. THAT is why every post you respond to is marginalized and why I will defer from wasting my time going forward. Just a tip: Spewing nonsense with links doesn't pass for intelligence. I myself and 50/50 if the posts coming from dad2three2001 isn't just a rudimentary computer ai program because your posts don't actually acknowledge nor respond to anything - it just repeatedly spews.

Have a nice life.


MORE right wing MYTHS, DISTORTIONS AND LIES. Shocking

You telling me BLS doesn't show 5+ million PRIVATE sector jobs NET under Obama since Jan 2009 AFTER Bush lost 673,00 in his 8 years?

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data


lol
 
FIVE + MILLION PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS UNDER OBAMA AFTER BUSH LOST 673,000+ IN 8 YEARS? Not counting the 4+ million lost in 2009? (Obama has a TOTAL private sector jobs created of 9+ million since hitting Bush's bottom March 2010)
Please notice how the dips coincide with the blue.
 
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