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10 People Have Offered to Pay the $1 Million Penalty for Her Speaking Out (1 Viewer)

Thing is: Even if Trump believed his finances and dealings to be a 100% clean, why do it with such a complicated & comprehensive business org? It's like going through a tax audit, only of everything in your life.

I agree. I dont know why most people run for national office and open themselves up to the anal probe that comes with the territory. I cant imagine that there are many people whose entire life can be put under a microscope and not have something embarrassing turn up. Other than me, of course lol
 
If the money came from the campaign funds..

And she would know nothing about that. That means the interest in her telling her story lies elsewhere.
 
Why won't he release his taxes? I think he is hiding a lot of things that would fall out of a forensic examination of his taxes. He made such a big deal out of being a billionaire & yet he won't release his taxes to prove that point beyond doubt.
His supporters not vetting him by forcing to release his tax return, was a great failure in civic responsibility, and is in large part why we are in this terrible situation with him.

His business & financial dealings should have been vetted before the election, not now as we're doing.
 
The bolded is conjecture on your part. You do not know what she knows, or doesn't know, at all. Neither do I.

Hence, starting the statement out with "Seems to me..."

The issue of a settlement would have been handled by his attorney. It is an adversarial situation, she demanding something from him in exchange for her silence. Attorney's don't usually explain "Well we will be paying you out of campaign funds, is that okay with you?"

I think I am safe in my conjecture, but I admit anything is possible. :shrug:
 
Of course I answered them. He had an affair and wanted to keep it from his wife and from damaging his presidential campaign. It cant get any more obvious than that. You want her testimony, not because it will shed some light on where the payment came from--which she would have no way of knowing--but to smear Trump. Which is exactly why he paid he to be quiet.

Uh dude, it's already out that he slept with her and NO ONE cares. So why can't she talk? That's something you or Trump haven't answered.
 
I agree. I dont know why most people run for national office and open themselves up to the anal probe that comes with the territory. I cant imagine that there are many people whose entire life can be put under a microscope and not have something embarrassing turn up. Other than me, of course lol
I live a clean life, but still wouldn't want it! ;)
 
And she would know nothing about that. That means the interest in her telling her story lies elsewhere.

Yes. her specific interest is in making money. She had an experience that can sell. People have interest in certain aspects of the story, because it could potentially expose illegal activities that are involved with the Federal Election Act.
 
Yes. her specific interest is in making money. She had an experience that can sell. People have interest in certain aspects of the story, because it could potentially expose illegal activities that are involved with the Federal Election Act.

Trump’s lawyer, Cohen, is also implicated in this story.
 
Trump is a Billionaire.

So he says. $130K is not a lot of money. It should be pocket change to Trump to pay off stormy, but the lawyer did in a weird way, and the lawyer did. Every other lawyer says that they would never put up their house to pay a porn star off for one of their clients. Not out of the "goodness of their hearts," not even for a $130K reimbursement. The mess is not worth it, as proven with this case.
 
Of course I answered them. He had an affair and wanted to keep it from his wife and from damaging his presidential campaign. It cant get any more obvious than that. You want her testimony, not because it will shed some light on where the payment came from--which she would have no way of knowing--but to smear Trump. Which is exactly why he paid he to be quiet.

In a world where Republicans didn't use a political operative to dig and dig on the Clinton's until he found an affair to crucify him with, someone cares. Really, I'm sure they do.

Of course in this case, Stormy wasn't gotten to by other Republican operatives and convinced to hand over the dress. She's just an enterprising woman who saw his vulnerability and struck. Same with Putin and the Trump campaign, saw idiots and took advantage. Trump should be proud of her, that's the kind of **** he likes to condone and do himself. What a sucker.
 
It might mean that they show mens rea, and took care of it that way until Trump could arrange a payment of like kind at some later point in time.

I highly doubt that Trump has/had had more than $100 million at any point in his life. The guys on Shark Tank can easily throw $130K at any business that comes through the door. They have the money freed up and most of them aren't even billionaires!!! It is clear that Trump did not for whatever reason, broke or controlled by Russians. None of it is good.
 
It's also funny how when we actually point this stuff out and that Trump is/was way worse than Clinton(s). They run away and never challenge again :) The fact that we actually need to lay out these questions to them at this point in the story, shows a true disconnect from reality from these people. It's truly concerning to me that a thinking American would spend hours on a debate forum, write multiple paragraphs about a scandal involving the POTUS, and then not come away with the same questions that I have. How is this possible?

As far as I am aware they are calling this an alleged affair.

Is it true? I don't know and neither do you for certain.

But if it is true, it didn't occur during his time at the WH.

But that Wolf character you were so quick to jump on his bandwagon with his new book making all kinds of allegations and one was UN Ambassador Haley was having an affair with Trump. You don't see that Wolf character around much these days because so much of what he wrote was lies. Yet it didn't stop folks like you wanting to believe every damn word of it.

You know what I think? Probably not but I am going to tell you anyway. I think those who spend countless hours trashing Trump could not survive the same kind of scrutiny in their own lives especially those talking heads on CNN and MSNBC. I also think the majority of the GOP voters were tired of seeing good representatives and Congress critters being thrown under the bus for just a hint of scandal when they watch the left not forcing out those in their party for worse. Hell look no further than the Farrakhan problem in the DNC and Democrat Congress critters with ties to Farrakhan. The party that has talking heads out there 24/7 depicting any citizen with a Trump teeshirt, or MAGA hat on is a friggen racist, homophobe, sexist. Maybe they should take a good look in the mirror before they open their mouths again.

Well keep up what you are doing because it is truly turning everyday folks like myself off. Trump was not my choice. But Trump has delivered.

For social conservatives who know G-d forgave King David, a man who did it all, he can surely forgive Trump and anyone else of their wrong deeds. And man do they love how he is transforming the courts with solid constitutionalists. They also love his support for the unborn. There was never a president to ever speak at a national right to life gathering until Trump.

For fiscal conservatives, Trump hit a homerun on tax cuts and regulations slashed. And they are thrilled with how he has cut the budget of agencies removing the pork. And anyone in his administration found to be spending pork are made an example of and it is quickly corrected or removed from their position.

For neo-conservatives, Trump fought for increased military spending and legislation passed to hold the VA accountable for ill treatment of our vets. And his moving of the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem was major. And the latest on future talks with Kim Jong Un has blown them away.

For paleo conservatives political philosophy found stressing tradition, limited government and civil society, along with religious, regional, national and Western identity find a friend in Trump on several issues already listed above. One thing that stands out that Trump did was overturn previous land grabs by federal government in states giving the land back to the states.

But this of course all took place in just over a year, but you probably didn't know it because you were too busy finding anything negative to dwell on . Hate does that to a person.
 
As far as I am aware they are calling this an alleged affair.

Is it true? I don't know and neither do you for certain.

But if it is true, it didn't occur during his time at the WH.

But that Wolf character you were so quick to jump on his bandwagon with his new book making all kinds of allegations and one was UN Ambassador Haley was having an affair with Trump. You don't see that Wolf character around much these days because so much of what he wrote was lies. Yet it didn't stop folks like you wanting to believe every damn word of it.

You know what I think? Probably not but I am going to tell you anyway. I think those who spend countless hours trashing Trump could not survive the same kind of scrutiny in their own lives especially those talking heads on CNN and MSNBC. I also think the majority of the GOP voters were tired of seeing good representatives and Congress critters being thrown under the bus for just a hint of scandal when they watch the left not forcing out those in their party for worse. Hell look no further than the Farrakhan problem in the DNC and Democrat Congress critters with ties to Farrakhan. The party that has talking heads out there 24/7 depicting any citizen with a Trump teeshirt, or MAGA hat on is a friggen racist, homophobe, sexist. Maybe they should take a good look in the mirror before they open their mouths again.

Well keep up what you are doing because it is truly turning everyday folks like myself off. Trump was not my choice. But Trump has delivered.

For social conservatives who know G-d forgave King David, a man who did it all, he can surely forgive Trump and anyone else of their wrong deeds. And man do they love how he is transforming the courts with solid constitutionalists. They also love his support for the unborn. There was never a president to ever speak at a national right to life gathering until Trump.

For fiscal conservatives, Trump hit a homerun on tax cuts and regulations slashed. And they are thrilled with how he has cut the budget of agencies removing the pork. And anyone in his administration found to be spending pork are made an example of and it is quickly corrected or removed from their position.

For neo-conservatives, Trump fought for increased military spending and legislation passed to hold the VA accountable for ill treatment of our vets. And his moving of the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem was major. And the latest on future talks with Kim Jong Un has blown them away.

For paleo conservatives political philosophy found stressing tradition, limited government and civil society, along with religious, regional, national and Western identity find a friend in Trump on several issues already listed above. One thing that stands out that Trump did was overturn previous land grabs by federal government in states giving the land back to the states.

But this of course all took place in just over a year, but you probably didn't know it because you were too busy finding anything negative to dwell on . Hate does that to a person.

See the problem with believing everything Trump says is that you lose the ability to realize that he broke the law and lies countless amounts of times. I don't care how good you think he's doing as POTUS. Trump is NOT above the law and Mueller will make sure justice is served.
 
Hence, starting the statement out with "Seems to me..."

The issue of a settlement would have been handled by his attorney. It is an adversarial situation, she demanding something from him in exchange for her silence. Attorney's don't usually explain "Well we will be paying you out of campaign funds, is that okay with you?"

I think I am safe in my conjecture, but I admit anything is possible. :shrug:
Ah, okay, sorry about the gloss over.

But remember she's a witness to everything in the arb agreement, and the activities that took place which the agreement enumerates.

The scrutiny was initiated by the bank SAR (suspicious activity report) generated and sent to the feds. It was not started by the principles. So there's a banking investigation occurring here. And the investigation started by the feds, has grown into what we see now. As a principle witness, I see no way she shouldn't be interviewed to ascertain the facts of the matter We don't know what Trump discussed, or didn't, outside of the agreement either. They had a long-term sexual relationship, remember.
 
... was his cover-up illegal?

It's gotta be something. Obviously, banging somebody on the side is the least of Trump's sins. And as has already been pointed out, next to everything everything else he's done his base isn't going to care about that. It's very unlikely that this would be related to poll numbers and much more likely that it's about something criminal.
 
Uh dude, it's already out that he slept with her and NO ONE cares. So why can't she talk? That's something you or Trump haven't answered.

I dont care if she talks. You are the one pretending her talking will put Trump in jail.
 
Yes. her specific interest is in making money. She had an experience that can sell. People have interest in certain aspects of the story, because it could potentially expose illegal activities that are involved with the Federal Election Act.

And she would know nothing about that.
 
In a world where Republicans didn't use a political operative to dig and dig on the Clinton's until he found an affair to crucify him with, someone cares. Really, I'm sure they do.

Of course in this case, Stormy wasn't gotten to by other Republican operatives and convinced to hand over the dress. She's just an enterprising woman who saw his vulnerability and struck. Same with Putin and the Trump campaign, saw idiots and took advantage. Trump should be proud of her, that's the kind of **** he likes to condone and do himself. What a sucker.

Cool story, bro.
 
If the money came from the campaign funds..
And if not, Cohen is likely going down, even if only through disbarment.

Cohen, like Flynn, Papadpoulis, Manafort, and others before him, will have to decide whether he falls on his sword - or flips.
 
I dont care if she talks. You are the one pretending her talking will put Trump in jail.

And Trump is the one who is blocking her from talking. This has already been discussed countless times on this forum, if you really want to study the case. I suggest you do.
 
Ah, okay, sorry about the gloss over.

But remember she's a witness to everything in the arb agreement, and the activities that took place which the agreement enumerates.

The scrutiny was initiated by the bank SAR (suspicious activity report) generated and sent to the feds. It was not started by the principles. So there's a banking investigation occurring here. And the investigation started by the feds, has grown into what we see now. As a principle witness, I see no way she shouldn't be interviewed to ascertain the facts of the matter We don't know what Trump discussed, or didn't, outside of the agreement. They had a long-term sexual relationship, remember.

Ahhh...political pillow talk? Hmmm...I was not considering that aspect.

Again, anything is possible, but the agreement was signed on 10/28/16, and there had to be a "confrontation" date, then a period of ongoing negotiations.

Meanwhile, the affair occurred back in 2006. Anderson Cooper interviews Stormy Daniels for '60 Minutes' - Mar. 8, 2018

That was long before the current campaign so I doubt any pillow talk she could provide would shed any light on issues raised by the Mueller investigation or anything involving his campaign and election.
 
See the problem with believing everything Trump says is that you lose the ability to realize that he broke the law and lies countless amounts of times. I don't care how good you think he's doing as POTUS. Trump is NOT above the law and Mueller will make sure justice is served.

Where do you get off claiming I believe everything Trump says? Damn man I just listed results!!!!!!!
 
Where do you get off claiming I believe everything Trump says? Damn man I just listed results!!!!!!!

No you listed WH Talking points, which are hardly results and it doesn't matter if Trump cures cancer if he used campaign funds to payoff a pornstar. It's still illegal. Yet for some reason you show more outrage at me than at that.
 
And Trump is the one who is blocking her from talking. This has already been discussed countless times on this forum, if you really want to study the case. I suggest you do.

Because he paid her not to :roll: She agreed to accept the money in exchange for her silence. She is the one going back on the deal, not Trump. You should be denouncing her for breaking the contract she volutarily signed and received payment for, but your hatred for Trump is so great that you cant see straight.
 

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