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10,504 Americans died of COVID in the last week (plus Florida's #s since they're lying). Three questions...

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  1. How many were unvaccinated?
  2. What's Florida's real death toll?
  3. How many families were broken because of these deaths?
 
....you know the whole "Florida is lying about their numbers" is a debunked conspiracy theory, right?
 
FL is 10th in deaths/1M and 3rd in cases/1M, cases being an indication of future deaths. If CDC does their job, it should all shake-out in the end. That is, CDC will reconcile btx such as excess deaths and those reported as COVID as to which is which and come with with final "best guess" figures, by state, and at least the nation (which can only be determined by state figures).
 
Well, the good news is the number of cases is going down in Florida and Texas, so at least it looks like things are trending in the right direction. What's also good news is cases haven't spiked dramatically (thus far) in the northeast despite a growing return to normal (schools open, more workers going into the office etc.). If the current trends stick, hopefully the recent rise in cases are plateauing which would be great news in terms of vaccine/natural immunity efficacy.

 
Florida. 6,000-21,000 COVID cases per day since Sept 1
Florida. 8 COVID deaths yesterday


It's a miracle.
 
  1. How many were unvaccinated? - not enough, too many still dying.
  2. What's Florida's real death toll? - no one knows, but everyone likes to guess.
  3. How many families were broken because of these deaths? - this is the main question, for those who say "oh lookie here, the cases are going down again." or who say "this only kills the old and fat people." have absolutely no regard for the families and survivors of those who HAVE died. It didn't have to be THIS bad, but till it happens to YOU, it is easy to scoff off.
 
cpwill said:
....you know the whole "Florida is lying about their numbers" is a debunked conspiracy theory, right?
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What is the basis of your declaration?

The real evidence will be the overall death numbers. Dead is dead. That can't be fudged. Overall deaths since March 2020 have greatly exceeded expected overall deaths and previous years' overall deaths.

What was different this past eighteen months?
 
i will never forget how a TON of people preached that single parent homes are the cause of so many problems (as we sit here and watch single parent homes created every day).
 
It's likely that Florida's numbers will drop considerably over the next few weeks because most of the unvaccinated Floridians will have likely had COVID. They could have reached herd immunity via vaccinations, but unfortunately they went the route of achieving it through tens of thousands of deaths and tens of thousands (if not many more) with heart or lung damage.
 
if that John Hopkins link is correct it's saying that ~9% of Floridians have tested positive (if i'm readying that correctly).

now, i understand that a TON of people have/had COVID and were never tested. but, still, that number jumped out at me.
 
CaughtInThe said:
  1. How many were unvaccinated?
  2. What's Florida's real death toll?
  3. How many families were broken because of these deaths?
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4. How many collective months did the unvaccinated take up hospital beds which were needed for treatable non-Covid conditions?
5. How many lives were lost and families broken because of that?
 

Jewish Space Lasers
 
cpwill said:
....you know the whole "Florida is lying about their numbers" is a debunked conspiracy theory, right?
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However, what is been confirmed is that when they get the reports in, they shift them to prior weeks, rather than saying "This is the number reported for this week'. That makes the current week look lower than it actually is, and that number will be adjusted higher in the next few weeks.
 
CaughtInThe said:
if that John Hopkins link is correct it's saying that ~9% of Floridians have tested positive (if i'm readying that correctly).

now, i understand that a TON of people have/had COVID and were never tested. but, still, that number jumped out at me.
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You are not reading that correctly. The positivity rate is the current batting average of positive tests per test administrated. It is an important metric, tracked almost like changes in barometric pressure, to allow the medical community to see trends and forecast the coming weeks.

I believe the metric you are looking for is what percentage of the population have tested positive for CV. According to WorldoMeter, that number would be about 16.7%. (Cases per million were 167,237 -- errors in that number: people that have had CoVid but were never tested somewhat offset by duplications and people that have had it twice)

United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
www.worldometers.info
 
thanks for the correction.
 
cpwill said:
....you know the whole "Florida is lying about their numbers" is a debunked conspiracy theory, right?
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No, it's not. It's been confirmed and results in a footnote* in all Florida reports. Here's how Florida obscures their numbers: they report once a week and don't report when the deaths occurred (meaning not correcting previous week underreporting).
 
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CaughtInThe said:
if that John Hopkins link is correct it's saying that ~9% of Floridians have tested positive (if i'm readying that correctly).

now, i understand that a TON of people have/had COVID and were never tested. but, still, that number jumped out at me.
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What it's saying is that 9% of people tested are positive.
 
CaughtInThe said:
  1. How many were unvaccinated?
  2. What's Florida's real death toll?
  3. How many families were broken because of these deaths?
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Florida isn't necessarily "lying" about the deaths, they're just reporting them differently (by date of death instead of date confirmed, or something like that) so that the number for a particular date will continue to increase as records of deaths that happened on a particular day are confirmed over the following several days/weeks.

I haven't confirmed on my own that this is really happening, so let's test it: we'll put down marker for a specific day and then see if that number changes in a week:

Let's do a few days:

September 21: 25
September 22: 9
September 23: 11
September 24: 8

 
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