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“MAGA” is a fraud, a lie, a deceit. Always has been. "America First" is a crock. Maybe you had good intentions, but…

Comparing the 6th to the Summer of 2020, there's simply no comparison to the level of violence the left has done. Were you one of those who was upset Trump wasn't killed, angry the dude missed?.....did you speak ill of Kirk on the day he was killed? That's the mentality that is destroying our nation.
More lies and bullshit.

Your side tried to overthrow the government.

You need to quit while you're behind.
 
MAGA has always been a lie, it's just a propaganda tag line like "Democratic People's Republic of Korea". It's never been about America, it's always been about Trump. Trump is a NYC con man, nothing more, and he doesn't give a shit about America or the people. That's why we're seeing things like energy bills skyrocketing now, inflation turning around and increasing again, prices jumping up at the grocery store, and not one bit of concern or addressing of these issues from Trump. He's running his own grifts like his crypto scheme, and looking to expand his own power and punish political enemies.

Nothing about MAGA is about growth, progress, or America. It's a regressive, communist platform bent on delivering full and ultimate power to Dear Leader and forcing loyalty to Party.
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Famous billionaire businessman doesn’t need to put up with the mountain of shit you and your comrades have thrown at him. He doesn’t need to risk being murdered by your TDS suffering comrades. It’s pretty clear that fixing the country was more important to him than the money.

He already had money. He already had the fame. Only a fool or someone who truly sought to fix this nations problems to save it for future generations, would choose to do what Trump did over just life as usual for him.
 
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Famous billionaire businessman doesn’t need to put up with the mountain of shit you and your comrades have thrown at him. He doesn’t need to risk being murdered by your TDS suffering comrades. It’s pretty clear that fixing the country was more important to him than the money.

He already had money. He already had the fame. Only a fool or someone who truly sought to fix this nations problems to save it for future generations, would choose to do what Trump did over just life as usual for him.
He's a conman and a fraud. He was losing money and relegated out of this history books until the Apprentice bailed his fat ass out. Trump's greatest achievement was his inheritance. Bankrupted multiple casinos, a long list of failed businesses. All he ever did well was grift. And that's what he's doing now, grifting. Making billions on a crypto scheme as America falls apart. His commie followers will always defend him, but MAGA is nothing more than a communist blight looking to ruin the Republic and turn us into China.

Trump isn't some altruistic brilliant man come to save us. He's a crooked ass criminal and con looking to turn a buck using the US Presidency as collateral.
 
“MAGA” is a fraud, a lie, a deceit.

You bought snake oil.
You followed someone who is wholly dishonest.
You may have had good intentions.
So let’s parse this “MAGA” idea, shall we?

First Donald stole the slogan from Reagan. You guys know that, right?

Next up, what does this slogan say?

For one, it presumes a couple of things;
1 - That we WERE great at some point, but are no longer.
QUESTION: When were we great?
QUESTION: When did we stop being great?
QUESTION: Why did we stop being great?

2 - That we WILL be great again.
QUESTION: Because we elected Donald Trump?
That’a what the slogan says.
Did we become great while he was in office the first time?
Not by any rational metric, no, we did not.

No MAGA can answer these questions, btw. If they answer at all, it will be 1 of 10 different variants. They have no consistent answer. By design.

3 - That “America” is the United States. It is most certainly not. See below;

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See? We do not speak for "America", we can only speak for the USA.

Along with “America First” these misnomers only make the US look ignorant and arrogant.

So, “MAGA” is undefined, yet many people still cheerfully wear the stupid red hats.
While you are busy “owning the libs”, our cities are being militarized, the First Amendment is under threat, Congress has abdicated its responsibilities.
Trump is raking in billions from his crypto shenanigans, Melania is hawking tacky and expensive christmas ornaments, and Beavis and Butthead are still duncecaps.

What the hell is happening to our country?
Is this really what you want?
WAKE UP. It's not going well.

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"Americas" refers to the combined continents of North and South America, including associated islands, while "America" often informally refers to the United States. https://www.askdifference.com/ameri... often informally refers to the United States.

The United States of America. America is the name of the USA. Americas is the name of the continents of North and South America. Sometimes people mean the Americas when they say America, but generally speaking most mean the USA when they say America. Stop falling for this slippery slope bullshit story about America does not mean anything but one thing. You might as well just be making an argument for MAGA at this stage. I mean, are you saying that Obama was not talking about a country? I could show the receipts here by thousands of Americans.
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Your profile claims "Independent". You should fix that.

Self-censoring at the prodding of any White House is VERY different than being coerced by threats using the power of government - licenses, funding, etc.
If you can't see that maybe see if you can find someone to explain it to you.

He was never "let go". The network succumbing to threats - again using the power of government - including the loss of licenses and blackmail from conservative ownership of broadcast stations.
They ultimately decided, wisely, to ignore those threats.


Wrong.
Wrong.
Wrong.

All true. Even if you stamp your foot.

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“MAGA” is a fraud, a lie, a deceit.

You bought snake oil.
You followed someone who is wholly dishonest.
You may have had good intentions.
So let’s parse this “MAGA” idea, shall we?

First Donald stole the slogan from Reagan. You guys know that, right?

Next up, what does this slogan say?

For one, it presumes a couple of things;
1 - That we WERE great at some point, but are no longer.
QUESTION: When were we great?
QUESTION: When did we stop being great?
QUESTION: Why did we stop being great?

2 - That we WILL be great again.
QUESTION: Because we elected Donald Trump?
That’a what the slogan says.
Did we become great while he was in office the first time?
Not by any rational metric, no, we did not.

No MAGA can answer these questions, btw. If they answer at all, it will be 1 of 10 different variants. They have no consistent answer. By design.

3 - That “America” is the United States. It is most certainly not. See below;

View attachment 67591574

See? We do not speak for "America", we can only speak for the USA.

Along with “America First” these misnomers only make the US look ignorant and arrogant.

So, “MAGA” is undefined, yet many people still cheerfully wear the stupid red hats.
While you are busy “owning the libs”, our cities are being militarized, the First Amendment is under threat, Congress has abdicated its responsibilities.
Trump is raking in billions from his crypto shenanigans, Melania is hawking tacky and expensive christmas ornaments, and Beavis and Butthead are still duncecaps.

What the hell is happening to our country?
Is this really what you want?
WAKE UP. It's not going well.

.
its Israel first
 
So MAGA is a lie. Thank you for being honest about it.


What do you mean?


But you just said the USA is a great nation. “MAGA” says it was but is no longer. These conflict.


Agreed.


Agreed.


Again, “MAGA” says the country was once great but is no longer.
If MAGA is about growing and striving for betterment as you say, they should embrace all US citizens.
Surely you share not suggesting that the current MAGA effort is doing any such thing?
If they are, I for one see zero evidence of that at all
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While America is still the greatest nation on earth it is a shell of what it was at its best. MAGA simply means taking us back to when we were the best. MAGA is not a lie far far from it. Thinking what leftists have done to this country didn’t diminish it is in fact the lie.
 
Your profile claims "Independent". You should fix that.
Self-censoring at the prodding of any White House is VERY different than being coerced by threats using the power of government - licenses, funding, etc.
If you can't see that maybe see if you can find someone to explain it to you.
He was never "let go". The network succumbing to threats - again using the power of government - including the loss of licenses and blackmail from conservative ownership of broadcast stations.
They ultimately decided, wisely, to ignore those threats.

All true. Even if you stamp your foot.
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Still wrong, even if you stomp your feet and shake your fists in the air.
 
While America is still the greatest nation on earth it is a shell of what it was at its best. MAGA simply means taking us back to when we were the best. MAGA is not a lie far far from it. Thinking what leftists have done to this country didn’t diminish it is in fact the lie.
"Greatest" determined by what metrics and how do they compare to other countries?
 
While America is still the greatest nation on earth it is a shell of what it was at its best. MAGA simply means taking us back to when we were the best. MAGA is not a lie far far from it. Thinking what leftists have done to this country didn’t diminish it is in fact the lie.
Wow, really? "taking us back to when we were the best"....... when was that? Are you speaking of a time before the U.S. opened our arms for immigrants seeking a better life? That would be around 1820. Oh, right....you're probably referring to the times when we had segregation. Those black folk should all have their separate public bathrooms and drinking water fountains, right? They need to 'know their place'. Maybe you're talking about when women in the military had jobs as nurses, or radio operations, never serving in combat. You want to take back 50 years of women's rights, roll back the integration of minorities, and exclusion of gay and lesbian rights.

We're never going back there.
 
Still wrong, even if you stomp your feet and shake your fists in the air.
So you've said.
If only you could say something thoughtful or even worthwhile...
 
While America is still the greatest nation on earth it is a shell of what it was at its best. MAGA simply means taking us back to when we were the best. MAGA is not a lie far far from it. Thinking what leftists have done to this country didn’t diminish it is in fact the lie.
When exactly was that, and what made us the best? It was not the bullshit in Project 2025.
 
This coming from a democrat lol. I could go on for days on all the issues that the politicians you support have championed which would directly contradict what you posted above.

Falling on their swords over men playing in women’s sports lol. Beyond moronic.

Defunding police along with a criminal first crime prevention policy lol. Beyond imbecilic.

Open borders allowing criminals, drug dealers, rapists, murderers, human traffickers, and terrorists to enter lol. Beyond dumb.

Supporting an applesauce brained racist pedophile lol. Straight water head material

Face it your party is the party of dumb. The party is all eat up with the stupid. Like cancer. They are about to get a communist elected in NY lol.

So you have zero credibility to call us stupid.
 
Which is why cities had to pay out $80 million in civil rights violations during that summer due to police being violent and assaulting peaceful protesters.


So, again, your concern trolling is adorable.

"Peaceful protesters".....sure there were some, but a whole lot of very violent criminals. Three-month long seige at least on our cities by these lowlifes doing 3 billion in damage, setting fire to State and Federal Bldgs, burning businesses to the ground after they looted them, injuring thousands of police officers, even taking over several square blocks of Seattle posting heavily armed sentries, culminating to the attack on the White House itself.

The left has amnesia to all of this......ain't that funny?
 
More lies and bullshit.

Your side tried to overthrow the government.

You need to quit while you're behind.

ROFL, why keep using the same ole tired ass false narratives? Nobody tried to overthrow the government.
 
ROFL, why keep using the same ole tired ass false narratives? Nobody tried to overthrow the government.
Of course they did.

They tried to prevent the duly elected president of the USA from being seated and keep the loser in power......i.e. "stop the steal".
 
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Of course they did.

They tried to prevent the duly elected president of the USA from being seated and jeep the loser in power......i.e. "stop the steal".

They were there to protest, which they were doing, but were fired upon without provocation until they were incited to violence.....a sad day. Still nothing compared to the leftist violence the last ten years and growing.
 
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