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‘We’re citizens!’: Oklahoma City family traumatized after ICE raids home, but they weren’t suspects

Lutherf said:
Yeah. I’m an asshole and always have been. Thanks for the validation.
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So the typical middle to old aged white man that hates America is evolving past your outdated mindset so we can grow? Yeah, I knew that when I saw your very first post. You MAGAs are easily spotted.

I have some news for you, your bad lot in life isn’t because of any of the multiple groups you hate. It’s because of your own doing.
 
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It's going to be up to the Supreme Court to sort it all out. As far as I am concerned if they come in illegally there is no due process for these people. Why are you siding with the criminals?
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One little snag here. If there is no due process to determine that someone came in illegally, how do we know they actually came in illegally?

That's all that's meant by due process.
 

Those are good questions.

A start would be to have a factual look at the events leading up to this. Why was the warrant issued? Why was it a "no-knock" warrant, which ought to be reserved for situations in which a deadly threat to officers is likely? Knowing the answers to these questions, which we don't as far as I know, would be a good start in identifying procedures to prevent these things.

That this happened to apparently innocent citizens is wrong. I'm all for looking for ways to prevent these incidents in the future. But abolishing ICE or not issuing search warrants and the like are unfortunately not sensible preventatives.

As long as search warrants exist, there are going to be occasional mistakes. To prevent them, we need to understand exactly why they happened and tighten up procedures to keep them rare. That tightening has to be based on facts, not people's assumptions about what "obviously" happened.
 
Integrityrespec said:
That doesn't seem to be the opinion of voters from the recent election. You are entitled to your opinon but like so many liberals, most of what liberals claim is just bullshit.
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Y’all really need to stop acting like you got some kind of mandate as opposed to an electoral college victory.
 
I haven't weighed in on this issue until now because I really haven't paid attention to it. But today, I read an article that puts the whole thing in perspective.

I think everyone should read this article.

ICE Responds to Accusations of Illegal Raid: “WRONG!” | The Gateway Pundit | by Antonio Graceffo

After Democrats accused ICE of raiding the wrong house and terrorizing a U.S. citizen family in Oklahoma, the Department of Homeland Security fired back, beginning their official statement on X with a blunt response: “Wrong.”.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
 
I guess zerohedgefund had nada on it.
 
The Gateway Pundit? Lmao..
No, DHS already admitted they targeted the wrong family
 
ClaraD said:
The Gateway Pundit? Lmao..
No, DHS already admitted they targeted the wrong family
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And now they are saying they didn't even target the family...they targeted the location. They had a warrant to do it. They didn't arrest the family. (but they are investigating, so they might)

They are saying they did nothing wrong.
 
Mycroft said:
And now they are saying they didn't even target the family...they targeted the location. They had a warrant to do it. They didn't arrest the family. (but they are investigating, so they might)

They are saying they did nothing wrong.
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For what? Being brown?
 
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