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The union rep has also probably seen the number of guys who set an unsustainable pace only to leave themselves crippled halfway through their career. Working for thirty years in a physically demanding career is about endurance, flash in the pans burn out quick, raise the bar unrealistically, and ultimately cost everyone more money.
Oh I know that but most scabs are those who are hired on after there is a strike
its far rarer for actual members of the striking union to cross the picket line. But yes such members would be called "scabs" by other members of the Union
Irrelevant to the meaning of the word "scab"
uh. no. That is literally the exact economic model that Unions push. You can't keep higher prices unless you are able to restrict supply.
LOL
:dramallama::dramallama:
so you deny that scab normally means people hired on during a strike?
I need not justify anything to you, My observation is clear.
I deny that the word only applies to strikebreakers
Your attitude is clear. You have no idea what you're talking about.
then you conceed the point thanks for playing. your definition is not the definition we use. there is the correct definition of a scab.
you are wrong period end of story.
Pressure tactics: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers | Fox News
The last line is bolded for emphasis. These are the tactics that unions use and it's plain wrong. I dare anyone to defend what the union is doing here with a straight face.
so what else does it apply to?
Any employee that works against a union
that's a rather interesting version I admit. that could be someone who say works for a GOP politician when off work for example.and most members of management.
Try again. A union is nothing more than something "created by the people through a (representational) democratic process and intended to be aid to those without" the balls to stand up for themselves and are only effective in non-right to work states...
those non-members are still required to pay for representation.... they just don't have to pay full dues. ( they pay agency fees or association fees, which are less than the full member dues) it's a myth that non-members don't pay anything.. the whole "free-rider" thing is pretty much a myth [...]
Speaking of propaganda, it seems that yours has changed its tune:[...] every worker under a contract pays for his representation... full members just pay more ( they cover all the rest of the union spending, like on political contributions, overhead, union official salaries, etc).. non-members only pay agency fees. [...] ...union propaganda doesn't fly very far, my friend
it would be correct if you said " agency fees are not required in 24 states". [...]
So do two major mainstream dictionaries (and no doubt more), but the right has retreated to their alternate reality (and daffynition dictionaryI deny that the word only applies to strikebreakers
Corporations, or companies have one....repeat one mission....make money for their owners, and or shareholders
Not to employ people
Not to provide benefits
To garner as much profit as possible
LOL - anything in the past century you'd like to bring up? :lamo
Keep trying sangha, it's hilarious!
I'm tolerant of this. Scabs should be treated with the contempt they deserve.
You post was so comic I had to laugh! Here let me return the favor. What did the leaper say to the prostitute? Keep the tip. I see that you have no clue that insulting/demeaning other participants and throwing around stupid generalizations constitutes a lot of what you have posted in this thread. So the fact that you enjoy acting exactly as you are lamely whining I do? Because I noticed your dear pal Sanga's weak bait? Is a logical fallacy, you might want to learn what the words you are using actually mean. Because all I see here is a schizophrenic posting style devoid of much logic but heavy on fallacy. Now here is a free tip for you, each time you proceed to act like not only a hypocrite but start lecturing others like you are staff moderator? I'll do the same favor for you I did yesterday, and let the real thing do their job with you. I've got a funny feeling you don't enjoy a lot of respect and cache with the staff here, so let's not turn this into the Karl's dog and pony show and make it all about you and your schizophrenic posting style. But if you insist I can certainly be helpful in making sure that kind of weak posing gets the audience it deserves. Free tip. No charge.
Hey, how do you circumcise a leaper? Shake him.
Hello folks, I'm new to DP. I can't say I'm shocked by this story. Anymore than I am the rather, um..............creative lengths some will go to in order to defend or dismiss the facts of the matter. Particularly when it comes to substantive discussions about the shortcomings and foibles of unions. In any case, I appreciate the (not surprisingly ignored) supporting data and links that have been posted. They really help to flesh out the big picture and I for one 'precipitate it.
Why do you hate the first amendment right of freedom of association, and support authoritarian fear tactics?
As a supporter of unions I'm a fan of freedom of association.
And yet you want that free speech stifled, by people acting as thugs. Interesting.I'm also a fan of free speech, like publicly labeling freeloaders as such.
Thats an interesting dichotomy-unions are not only anti-competition but also anti-choice, reference how they treat non-union members. And what about those unions members who dont wish to be-but are forced to-because anything else would result in them losing their own jobs. This also impacts what say they have in how unions use influence that the individual may not agree with or want to support. Thats not freedom of association.
And yet you want that free speech stifled, by people acting as thugs. Interesting.
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