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‘People Are Going Silent’: Fearing Retribution, Trump Critics Muzzle Themselves

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"People on both sides of the aisle who would normally be part of the public dialogue about the big issues of the day say they are intimidated by the prospect of online attacks from Mr. Trump and Elon Musk, concerned about harm to their companies and frightened for the safety of their families. Politicians fear banishment by a party remade in Mr. Trump’s image and the prospect of primary opponents financed by Mr. Musk, the president’s all-powerful partner and the world’s richest man.

“When you see important societal actors — be it university presidents, media outlets, C.E.O.s, mayors, governors — changing their behavior in order to avoid the wrath of the government, that’s a sign that we’ve crossed the line into some form of authoritarianism,” said Steven Levitsky, a professor of government at Harvard and the co-author of the influential 2018 book “How Democracies Die.”

Representative Eric Swalwell, a California Democrat and a frequent critic of Mr. Trump, said the real fear among Republicans in the House who might otherwise voice criticism of the administration on some issues was violence against their families.
“I’m friends with a lot of these guys, and I had wrongly assumed that what was holding them back from speaking out against Trump was they were afraid of losing their jobs,” he said in an interview. “But what they’re afraid of is their own personal security. They tell me that their wives tell them, ‘Don’t contribute to us getting harassed at church or at the grocery store or at the club.’”

Mr. Swalwell, who receives plenty of threats himself, said that he spends hundreds of thousands of dollars of his campaign and office funds on security for his own family, and that his daughter recently included a member of his security detail in a drawing of her family for her kindergarten class."

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Scary times.
 
I hear Trump is putting out a tender for a new high rise building design with floor to ceiling opening windows on the 15th floor. Putin offered to do the interior design for him. 15th floor will be the guest suite for people who disagree with Trump.
 
Conspiracy Forum.
 
There's another way.

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"People on both sides of the aisle who would normally be part of the public dialogue about the big issues of the day say they are intimidated by the prospect of online attacks from Mr. Trump and Elon Musk, concerned about harm to their companies and frightened for the safety of their families. Politicians fear banishment by a party remade in Mr. Trump’s image and the prospect of primary opponents financed by Mr. Musk, the president’s all-powerful partner and the world’s richest man.

“When you see important societal actors — be it university presidents, media outlets, C.E.O.s, mayors, governors — changing their behavior in order to avoid the wrath of the government, that’s a sign that we’ve crossed the line into some form of authoritarianism,” said Steven Levitsky, a professor of government at Harvard and the co-author of the influential 2018 book “How Democracies Die.”

Representative Eric Swalwell, a California Democrat and a frequent critic of Mr. Trump, said the real fear among Republicans in the House who might otherwise voice criticism of the administration on some issues was violence against their families.
“I’m friends with a lot of these guys, and I had wrongly assumed that what was holding them back from speaking out against Trump was they were afraid of losing their jobs,” he said in an interview. “But what they’re afraid of is their own personal security. They tell me that their wives tell them, ‘Don’t contribute to us getting harassed at church or at the grocery store or at the club.’”


Mr. Swalwell, who receives plenty of threats himself, said that he spends hundreds of thousands of dollars of his campaign and office funds on security for his own family, and that his daughter recently included a member of his security detail in a drawing of her family for her kindergarten class."

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Scary times.

And it's pathetic, but also predictable, even normal. People fear losing their influence. That's what they're afraid of. But the longer this cowardice continues, there will be far more important things to fear.
 
Conspiracy Forum.
It's not a conspiracy when it's actually happening.

He's taken security away from people who oppose him, and by the way that whole side of the room looked like bobble heads during the speech the other night, I'd say this is spot on.
 
How sad that some people can't recognize hard news when they see it, yet will believe every lie spouted by Donnie Chaos.

If you think you are describing me then that is ****ing laughable... look, your own title says "fearing retribution". People fearing retribution are not going to newspapers, shouting to the world, whatever it is that they will be facing retribution for. Conspiracy.
 
It's not a conspiracy when it's actually happening.

He's taken security away from people who oppose him, and by the way that whole side of the room looked like bobble heads during the speech the other night, I'd say this is spot on.

Not sure what you are talking about... source and evidence?>
 
"People on both sides of the aisle who would normally be part of the public dialogue about the big issues of the day say they are intimidated by the prospect of online attacks from Mr. Trump and Elon Musk, concerned about harm to their companies and frightened for the safety of their families. Politicians fear banishment by a party remade in Mr. Trump’s image and the prospect of primary opponents financed by Mr. Musk, the president’s all-powerful partner and the world’s richest man.

“When you see important societal actors — be it university presidents, media outlets, C.E.O.s, mayors, governors — changing their behavior in order to avoid the wrath of the government, that’s a sign that we’ve crossed the line into some form of authoritarianism,” said Steven Levitsky, a professor of government at Harvard and the co-author of the influential 2018 book “How Democracies Die.”

Representative Eric Swalwell, a California Democrat and a frequent critic of Mr. Trump, said the real fear among Republicans in the House who might otherwise voice criticism of the administration on some issues was violence against their families.
“I’m friends with a lot of these guys, and I had wrongly assumed that what was holding them back from speaking out against Trump was they were afraid of losing their jobs,” he said in an interview. “But what they’re afraid of is their own personal security. They tell me that their wives tell them, ‘Don’t contribute to us getting harassed at church or at the grocery store or at the club.’”

Mr. Swalwell, who receives plenty of threats himself, said that he spends hundreds of thousands of dollars of his campaign and office funds on security for his own family, and that his daughter recently included a member of his security detail in a drawing of her family for her kindergarten class."

Link

Scary times.

A climate of fear is indeed a common trait of tyrannies. Trump has learned that lesson well from his BFF Putin.
 
Better yet... Comedy Forum.
Hey, got you a front row seat...

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A perfect example of the above are the major American newspapers, generally owned by billionaires, suddenly refusing to make presidential endorsements. The Jeff Bezos Washington Post has further curtailed its editorial board to stay away from "controversial issues", those that might offend Trump.


Self censorship to protect the economic interests of the billionaire, who has a business that competes for government contracts with Musk's SpaceX.

"Democracy dies in the darkness"
 
I'm just here to watch people say that this sort of extortion is just a conspiracy theory.

Because you will always find people willing to lick the arses of tyrants.
 
Not sure what you are talking about... source and evidence?>
 
But if they muzzled themselves would they make public (even to you) that as a fact.
Seems almost to mean the opposite of what you say.
"To muzzle oneself" is to be quiet about what you are doing.
 
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