‘One Nation Under Allah’

[B.L.Zeebub]

And the difference is, that most Christians on this planet will vociferously call for these people to be punished, shun them and consider them to have deviated from from the faith. Muslims as a global whole however, do not reject extreme violence in the name of their religion.


You see?



Oh, and your "source" has this to say, with abysmal punctuation and syntax, about itself: "You will Not see this news on any other news media!" I think that that tells us something important, don't you? Lets see if you can figure it out. (Hint: a Google News search turned up nothing, not even your article.)

just a hint, try googling BBC world news.
'Mad Dog' the cannibal pictured eating SECOND Muslim in Central African Republic | Mail Online

 

[Oftencold]

just a hint, try googling BBC world news.
'Mad Dog' the cannibal pictured eating SECOND Muslim in Central African Republic | Mail Online

We'll you know what they say, "no one can eat just one."

But this is an individual. (I have seen several of Africans eating the dead, and one of -- Arabs I think emasculating the dead, and one recently with a syringe eating a dead rebels heart, which he'd just cut out of his chest.) You indicated in your previous post with the fictional link that some Christian sect was going about eating people. Would you like to explain how this man constitutes a sect of Christians, an not a crazy person?

 

[mbig]

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read here to understand. Taking one line out of context is never good.........your ignorance makes it worse.
People of the Book=JEWS

The "context" is this.
Early in the Koran/Mohammed attempted to convert everyone, he was especially accommodating to the Jews.
He even temporarily made the prayer direction Jerusalem as part of that attempt.
This period of the Koran also contains the Peaceful verses for the same reason.

He failed Miserably and fled Mecca to Medina where he eventually triumphed. Later returning and conquering Mecca.
This later struggle and Victory produced the "Sword Verses" which "ABROGATE" The earlier Peaceful ones.
(I suggest Googling "Mecca and/or Medinian periods", "Abrogation", "Sword Verses" etc)
That's the "Context".
You wouldn't know this from just reading the Koran since:
Wiki: "The chapters are arranged roughly in order of Descending Size therefore the arrangement of the Qur'an is Neither Chronological nor Thematic."

The word "Jews" appears in 19 verses in Pickthall’s translation of the Koran.

It is very interesting to note that the following words do not appear EVEN ONCE in Pickthall’s translation of the Koran:
"Greek", "Hebrew", "Aramaic", "Salvation", "Savior", "Saviour ". (Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic are the original languages of the Judaeo-Christian scriptures, which the Koran half-heartedly acknowledges as "divinely revealed")

These verses from the Koran concerning the Jews speak for themselves.
[.......]

[al-Baqarah 2:140.16] Or say ye that Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes were Jews or Christians? Say: Do ye know best, or doth Allah? And who is more unjust than he who hideth a testimony which he hath received from Allah? Allah is not unaware of what ye do.


[an-Nisa' 4:46.6] Some of those who are Jews change words from their context and say: "We hear and disobey; hear thou as one who heareth not" and "Listen to us!" distorting with their tongues and slandering religion. If they had said: "We hear and we obey: hear thou, and look at us" it had been better for them, and more upright. But Allah hath Cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, save a few.

[an-Nisa' 4:160.7] Because of the Wrongdoing of the Jews We forbade them good things which were (before) made lawful unto them, and because of their much hindering from Allah's way,

[al-Ma'idah 5:18.2] The Jews and Christians say: We are sons of Allah and His loved ones. Say: Why then doth He chastise you for your sins? Nay, ye are but mortals of His creating. He forgiveth whom He will, and chastiseth whom He will. Allah's is the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them, and unto Him is the journeying.


[al-Ma'idah 5:41.35] O Messenger! Let not them grieve thee who vie one with another in the race to disbelief, of such as say with their mouths: "We believe," but their hearts believe not, and of the Jews: listeners for the sake of Falsehood, listeners on behalf of other folk who come not unto thee, changing words from their context and saying: If this be given unto you, receive it, but if this be not given unto you, then beware! He whom Allah doometh unto sin, thou (by thine efforts) wilt avail him naught against Allah. Those are they for whom the Will of Allah is that He cleanse not their hearts. Theirs in the world will be ignominy, and in the Hereafter an awful doom;
[......]

[al-Ma'idah 5:51.8] O ye who believe! Take NOT the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not Wrongdoing folk.


[al-Ma'idah 5:64.2] The Jews say: Allah's hand is fettered. Their hands are fettered and they are Accursed for saying so. Nay, but both His hands are spread out wide in bounty. He bestoweth as He will. That which hath been revealed unto thee from thy Lord is certain to increase the contumacy and disbelief of many of them, and We have cast among them enmity and hatred till the Day of Resurrection. As often as they light a fire for war, Allah extinguisheth it. Their effort is for Corruption in the land, and Allah loveth not corrupters.

[.....]
[al-Ma'idah 5:82.18] Thou wilt find the most vehement of mankind in hostility to those who believe (to be) the Jews and the idolaters. And thou wilt find the nearest of them in affection to those who believe (to be) those who say: Lo! We are Christians. That is because there are among them priests and monks, and because they are Not proud.

[.....]
[at-Taubah 9:30.3] And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah.
That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) Fighteth against them. How Perverse are they!*


[an-Nahl 16:118.6] And unto those who are Jews We have forbidden that which We have already related unto thee. And We wronged them not, but they were wont to wrong themselves.


[al-Hajj 22:17.11] Lo! those who believe (this revelation), and those who are Jews, and the Sabaeans and the Christians and the Magians and the idolaters - Lo! Allah will decide between them on the Day of Resurrection. Lo! Allah is Witness over all things.


[al-Jum`ah 62:6.8] Say (O Muhammad): O ye who are Jews! If ye claim that ye are favoured of Allah apart from (all) mankind, then long for death if ye are truthful.


The word "Jewish" appears once in Pickthall’s translation of the Koran.

[at-Taubah 9:34.9] O ye who believe! Lo! many of the (Jewish) rabbis and the (Christian) monks devour the wealth of mankind wantonly and debar (men) from the way of Allah. They who hoard up gold and silver and spend it not in the way of Allah, unto them give tidings (O Muhammad) of a Painful Doom.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atla...25/page184.htm
link expired. All 19 Now mirrored here: Verses in Koran which mention the Jews - Page 184 but without commentary.
Pickthall's translation one of the several mainstream ones

 

[Bodi]

Just one example of many how WE have to change and conform to THEIR way of thinking

WE don't have to do anything. If YOU don't want to do it... then don't.

 

[Respecthelect]

The "context" is this.
Early in the Koran/Mohammed attempted to convert everyone, he was especially accommodating to the Jews.
He even temporarily made the prayer direction Jerusalem as part of that attempt.
This period of the Koran also contains the Peaceful verses for the same reason.

He failed Miserably and fled Mecca to Medina where he eventually triumphed. Later returning and conquering Mecca.
This later struggle and Victory produced the "Sword Verses" which "ABROGATE" The earlier Peaceful ones.
(I suggest Googling "Mecca and/or Medinian periods", "Abrogation", "Sword Verses" etc)
That's the "Context".
You wouldn't know this from just reading the Koran since:
Wiki: "The chapters are arranged roughly in order of Descending Size therefore the arrangement of the Qur'an is Neither Chronological nor Thematic."

Webster defines: ab·ro·gat·e
1: to abolish by authoritative action : annul
2: to treat as nonexistent

If I understand your point, Muslims are to err on the side of violence, since the violent passages "abrogate" or nullify the peaceful passages?

Regardless the fine points and details, Muslims around the world seem to hate Jews (and Christians, and the rest of the world too). Muslims even seem to hate other Muslims. Many Sunni's hate Shia's and visa versa. Without knowing a single detail about the Quran, the evidence seems irrefutable that many Muslims feel justified committing violence and that many intend to commit violence in the future? That in fact, the Quran requires violence? Again, without reading a word of the Quran, Muslims seem particularly peeved with Jews?

Aren't there also other Quran requirements to lie and confuse infidel's? So, if a Muslim named Sababo (vs Sababa, because we know Sababa would never mislead us...) were to lie about the violent passages trumping the peaceful passages, that lying would be encouraged by the Quran?

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