‘Mass casualties’ at UN complex as Israeli forces advance through Khan Younis

[Credence]

I support Israel to a point; IMO this is getting out of control. Israel will never be able to kill all of HAMAS -- it is just impossible and to kill so many innocent civilians is just wrong.

"A U.N. training centre sheltering tens of thousands of displaced people was hit on Wednesday, causing “mass casualties” as buildings blazed, a senior U.N. relief official said as Israeli forces advanced through southern Gaza’s main city.

Israeli forces also cut off southern Gaza’s main hospitals in their assault on Khan Younis, Palestinian officials said, and closed the main escape route for hundreds of thousands of residents and people who have sought refuge there.

In response to questions about the fire at the centre – run by UNRWA, the U.N. relief organisation for the Palestinians – the Israeli military said the wider area was a significant base of Hamas militants.

“Dismantling Hamas’ military framework in western Khan Yunis is the heart of the logic behind the operation,” it said.

Several sources had earlier told Reuters that Israel and the Hamas group that runs Gaza had made some progress in weeks of proxy talks on a 30-day ceasefire, during which Israeli hostages and Palestinian prisoners would be freed and more aid would enter the enclave.

But that prospect appeared distant on Wednesday.

In their biggest operation in a month, Israeli tanks have pushed through Khan Younis, where hundreds of thousands of displaced Palestinians are sheltering after leaving the north – the early focus of the war.

Their main target appears to be the area around Khan Younis’ long-standing refugee camp, which includes the Nasser and Al-Amal hospitals and also the training centre run by UNRWA.

‘Mass casualties’ at UN complex as Israeli forces advance through Khan Younis

A U.N. training centre sheltering tens of thousands of displaced people was hit on Wednesday, causing mass casualties as buildings blazed, a senior U.N. relief official said as Israeli forces advanced through southern Gaza's main city.Israeli forces also cut off southern Gaza's main hospitals in the

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[Phys251]

I support Israel to a point; IMO this is getting out of control. Israel will never be able to kill all of HAMAS -- it is just impossible and to kill so many innocent civilians is just wrong.

"A U.N. training centre sheltering tens of thousands of displaced people was hit on Wednesday, causing “mass casualties” as buildings blazed, a senior U.N. relief official said as Israeli forces advanced through southern Gaza’s main city.

Israeli forces also cut off southern Gaza’s main hospitals in their assault on Khan Younis, Palestinian officials said, and closed the main escape route for hundreds of thousands of residents and people who have sought refuge there.

In response to questions about the fire at the centre – run by UNRWA, the U.N. relief organisation for the Palestinians – the Israeli military said the wider area was a significant base of Hamas militants.

“Dismantling Hamas’ military framework in western Khan Yunis is the heart of the logic behind the operation,” it said.

Several sources had earlier told Reuters that Israel and the Hamas group that runs Gaza had made some progress in weeks of proxy talks on a 30-day ceasefire, during which Israeli hostages and Palestinian prisoners would be freed and more aid would enter the enclave.

But that prospect appeared distant on Wednesday.

In their biggest operation in a month, Israeli tanks have pushed through Khan Younis, where hundreds of thousands of displaced Palestinians are sheltering after leaving the north – the early focus of the war.

Their main target appears to be the area around Khan Younis’ long-standing refugee camp, which includes the Nasser and Al-Amal hospitals and also the training centre run by UNRWA.

‘Mass casualties’ at UN complex as Israeli forces advance through Khan Younis

A U.N. training centre sheltering tens of thousands of displaced people was hit on Wednesday, causing mass casualties as buildings blazed, a senior U.N. relief official said as Israeli forces advanced through southern Gaza's main city.Israeli forces also cut off southern Gaza's main hospitals in the

in-cyprus.philenews.com

Once again, Israel has no respect for the rules of war, no respect for civilians, no respect for anything but their unrestrained power.

Cease-fire now!

 

[Ahlevah]

Cease-fire now!

Free the hostages! Surrender! Now!

 

[Integrityrespec]

I support Israel to a point; IMO this is getting out of control. Israel will never be able to kill all of HAMAS -- it is just impossible and to kill so many innocent civilians is just wrong.

"A U.N. training centre sheltering tens of thousands of displaced people was hit on Wednesday, causing “mass casualties” as buildings blazed, a senior U.N. relief official said as Israeli forces advanced through southern Gaza’s main city.

Israeli forces also cut off southern Gaza’s main hospitals in their assault on Khan Younis, Palestinian officials said, and closed the main escape route for hundreds of thousands of residents and people who have sought refuge there.

In response to questions about the fire at the centre – run by UNRWA, the U.N. relief organisation for the Palestinians – the Israeli military said the wider area was a significant base of Hamas militants.

“Dismantling Hamas’ military framework in western Khan Yunis is the heart of the logic behind the operation,” it said.

Several sources had earlier told Reuters that Israel and the Hamas group that runs Gaza had made some progress in weeks of proxy talks on a 30-day ceasefire, during which Israeli hostages and Palestinian prisoners would be freed and more aid would enter the enclave.

But that prospect appeared distant on Wednesday.

In their biggest operation in a month, Israeli tanks have pushed through Khan Younis, where hundreds of thousands of displaced Palestinians are sheltering after leaving the north – the early focus of the war.

Their main target appears to be the area around Khan Younis’ long-standing refugee camp, which includes the Nasser and Al-Amal hospitals and also the training centre run by UNRWA.

‘Mass casualties’ at UN complex as Israeli forces advance through Khan Younis

A U.N. training centre sheltering tens of thousands of displaced people was hit on Wednesday, causing mass casualties as buildings blazed, a senior U.N. relief official said as Israeli forces advanced through southern Gaza's main city.Israeli forces also cut off southern Gaza's main hospitals in the

in-cyprus.philenews.com

Seems some folks forget who was attacked to begin with. Also, please remember this has been going on since 1948 when Palestinians first attacked Israel. If the US were attacked by armed forces along our southern border, and they killed and wounded thousands and took hostages and this had happened multiple times for over 50 years how do you think the American people would react? What do you think they would expect our military and do in response?

Israel has been bombarded for decades by Palestinian groups, killing, wounding and causing destruction. Those who seem to think Israel is reacting harshly haven't been victims of this decades old war. Israel is forced into eliminating Hamas and other Palestinians that aid in these attacks. The war can stop today. All that has to happen is Hamas turn over the rest of the hostages, pledge no more missile attacks on Israel, and true Peace. Somehow I doubt that will happen.

se?

 

[Phys251]

Seems some folks forget who was attacked to begin with. Also, please remember this has been going on since 1948 when Palestinians first attacked Israel. If the US were attacked by armed forces along our southern border, and they killed and wounded thousands and took hostages and this had happened multiple times for over 50 years how do you think the American people would react? What do you think they would expect our military and do in response?

Israel has been bombarded for decades by Palestinian groups, killing, wounding and causing destruction. Those who seem to think Israel is reacting harshly haven't been victims of this decades old war. Israel is forced into eliminating Hamas and other Palestinians that aid in these attacks. The war can stop today. All that has to happen is Hamas turn over the rest of the hostages, pledge no more missile attacks on Israel, and true Peace. Somehow I doubt that will happen.

se?

Are you OK with Israel's bombing of a UN training center?

 

[Cardinal]

Once again, Israel has no respect for the rules of war, no respect for civilians, no respect for anything but their unrestrained power.

Cease-fire now!

Just out of curiosity, what are the legal rules of engagement for dealing with a military force that targets civilians from civilian centers? And yes, I'm asking how Israel is legally allowed to respond to Hamas attacks on Israeli civilians.

And just to be clear, I think the Likud Party is comprised of monsters, but that doesn't let central question off the hook.

 

[Phys251]

Just out of curiosity, what are the legal rules of engagement for dealing with a military force that targets civilians from civilian centers? And yes, I'm asking how Israel is legally allowed to respond to Hamas attacks on Israeli civilians.

"Human shields" are a myth. Refugee camps are not to be bombed. Period.

You're a good person, Cardinal, and I know you can understand this.

 

[Cardinal]

"Human shields" are a myth. Refugee camps are not to be bombed. Period.

You're a good person, Cardinal, and I know you can understand this.

Okay, then there have been no Palestinian deaths.

 

[samiam5211]

Okay, then there have been no Palestinian deaths.

Human shields are real, and Israel should stop treating women and children in Gaza as if they are nothing more than shields.

 

[Phys251]

Okay, then there have been no Palestinian deaths.

What are you trying to say? Don't be coy.

 

[Cardinal]

Human shields are real, and Israel should stop treating women and children in Gaza as if they are nothing more than shields.

Which brings me back to my main question: What are the legal rules of engagement for dealing with a military force that targets civilians from civilian centers?

 

[Cardinal]

What are you trying to say? Don't be coy.

I'm saying that we can both simply reject unpleasant basic truths in order to make our side really easy to defend. And for the record, I own the unpleasant basic truths of Israel's behavior. But so long as you refuse to own yours, there's no point in discussion with you.

 

[samiam5211]

Which brings me back to my main question: What are the legal rules of engagement for dealing with a military force that targets civilians from civilian centers?

I don't recognize Israel's right to defend itself.

 

[Cardinal]

I don't recognize Israel's right to defend itself.

I appreciate your honesty.

 

[Phys251]

I'm saying that we can both simply reject unpleasant basic truths in order to make our side really easy to defend. And for the record, I own the unpleasant basic truths of Israel's behavior. But so long as you refuse to own yours, there's no point in discussion with you.

Cardinal, you're better than this. Surely you can see that bombing refugee camps = bad, just like I can see that taking civilian hostages = bad.

 

[Cardinal]

Cardinal, you're better than this. Surely you can see that bombing refugee camps = bad, just like I can see that taking civilian hostages = bad.

Until you are ready to accept the unpleasant truths of Hamas's behavior, we have no shared reality, and therefore no common ground to discuss this on.

 

[samiam5211]

I appreciate your honesty.

I don't appreciate your support of the country responsible for killing the more children than Russia has in Ukraine.

 

[Cardinal]

I don't appreciate your support of the country responsible for killing the more children than Russia has in Ukraine.

If you can rationalize Hamas's attacks on civilians, then you can probably understand why I don't view you as a moral compass on this matter.

 

[Phys251]

Until you are ready to accept the unpleasant truths of Hamas's behavior,

Already done. I'm not going to repeat this for you.

we have no shared reality, and therefore no common ground to discuss this on.

So you can't admit that bombing refugee camps = bad. Got it.

 

[Cardinal]

Already done. I'm not going to repeat this for you.



So you can't admit that bombing refugee camps = bad. Got it.

There are no refugee camps and there have been no Palestinian deaths.

 

[zincwarrior]

I don't recognize Israel's right to defend itself.

Thats a major statement. Any other countries or ethnic groups that do not have the right to self defense in your world view?

 

[Phys251]

There are no refugee camps and there have been no Palestinian deaths.

Whatever. I had no clue that you were so deeply in the neocon camp, but here we are.

 

[samiam5211]

If you can rationalize Hamas's attacks on civilians, then you can probably understand why I don't view you as a moral compass on this matter.

You won't find a single post from me rationalizing the Hamas attacks.

Hamas is a terrorist organization, and they are not helping the people in Gaza.

 

[samiam5211]

Thats a major statement. Any other countries or ethnic groups that do not have the right to self defense in your world view?

Why do you mention ethnic groups?

 

[Cardinal]

You won't find a single post from me rationalizing the Hamas attacks.

Hamas is a terrorist organization, and they are not helping the people in Gaza.

I having a difficult time squaring this with your "Israel doesn't have a right to defend itself" position. If there's a point of nuance here that I'm missing I'm happy to hear it.